Tuesday, September 10, 2013

Church Social Media Chat: 9/10/13: Back to Basics!

Which platforms work best for which efforts? Why?

 #ChSocM Tweetchat (09/10/13)(09/10/2013) 
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Get ready, get set... #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 8:59 chsocm
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It time for our weekly awesome & beyond awesome #chsocm chat!
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:00 chsocm
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Warm welcome to all, especially newcomers. For rulesa of engagement, review:bit.ly/1e0aA2p #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:01 chsocm
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Time for dueling twitter chats #ChSocM and #GetRealChat. Join me for one or both!
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:01 paulsteinbrueck
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Rules of...ooops, typing glitch. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:01 chsocm
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Anyone here for the first time? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:02 chsocm
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POTUS is speaking abt Syria ATM, will be back. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:02 LuckyCharm333
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:03 SFPresby
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If so, don't get worried about the pace. We post the transcript later. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:03 chsocm
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:03 GodtheHealerDev
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:03 chsocm
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You’re welcome to observe or participate. If you’ve only observed so far, consider participating this time. We’re friendly bunch. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:04 chsocm
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RT @paulsteinbrueck: Time for dueling twitter chats #ChSocM and #GetRealChat. Join me for one or both!
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:04 GetRealChat
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:04 kellydouglas
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As people of faith, engaged with communicating church & faith, we always start #chsocm chat with prayer.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:04 chsocm
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:05 chsocm
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@chsocm I will be here for a while, until it's time to tuck the kids into bed. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:05 FormerlyNorm
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Gracious God, as we come together, grant us the grace to be united in faith and good will in our service to you. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:05 chsocm
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We pray for unity and integrity in all communications, across all media & across denominations. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:05 chsocm
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May the Holy Spirit to inspire our conversations & guide us to use social media wisely & well. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:06 chsocm
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How do we get passed the gossip/disfunction and enjoy institutional creativity? #chsocm #SACRiess
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:06 anglobaptist
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Don't know how U do it! Had 2 choose RT @paulsteinbrueck: Time for dueling twitter chats #ChSocM and #GetRealChat. Join me for one or both!
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:06 PetreyDishCom
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We give thanks for every opportunity to build community & reveal your presence online as well as face-to-face. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:06 chsocm
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Check out this neat trick. When I tug my ear Fr. Joe closes his eyes! ow.ly/oKWB5 ow.ly/i/37p8K #chsocm #leadfromwithin
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:06 StPaulsB
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Tonight we especially pray for peace throughout this war-torn world. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:07 chsocm
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RT @chsocm We give thanks for every opportunity to build community & reveal your presence online as well as face-to-face. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:07 RevWeb
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RT @chsocm Tonight we especially pray for peace throughout this war-torn world. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:07 RevWeb
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RT @chsocm Tonight we especially pray for peace throughout this war-torn world. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:07 kellydouglas
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RT @chsocm: Tonight we especially pray for peace throughout this war-torn world. #chsocm // Amen!
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:08 singingcarolyn
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Amen! RT @chsocm Tonight we especially pray for peace throughout this war-torn world. #chsocm #prayforpeace
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:08 LeistCatalano
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All this we pray in Jesus' holy name, amen. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:08 chsocm
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:08 kellydouglas
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@anglobaptist "Institutional creativity" isn't that an oxymoron? ;) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:08 paulsteinbrueck
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Amen. May peace prevail on earth. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:08 RevWeb
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:09 GodtheHealerDev
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:09 skenow
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For those who are new, next up are self-introducitons! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:09 chsocm
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:09 rev_david
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Hi-dee ho, #chsocm neighbors!
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:10 rev_david
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Please share your church affiliation plus how you use & your experience level with #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:10 chsocm
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@chsocm time for a new keyborad. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:10 skenow
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:10 chsocm
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#Episcopal priest. #Baltimore. Bishop's staff. Using #chsocm for fun and prophet. And to build community.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:11 RevWeb
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And while all this self-reveal is going on, the fine print will be typed outloud: #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:11 chsocm
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Senior seminary student currently doing research for worship prof on #chsocm usage. First timer.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:11 Kerrmudgen
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We will assume tweets during this chat yours & do not represent your church or organization #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:11 chsocm
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#ELCA pastor in rural Texas. Teaching and encouraging #chsocm use among leaders.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:11 rev_david
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web coordinator for Baptist Union in Victoria, Australia #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:11 burks
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Please remember that we’re here to share with & support one another. Please use DM or email to pitch products/services. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:12 chsocm
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Hi all, I am a layperson with a small town cc(doc) church. I manage much of the congregation 's #chsocm presence
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:12 FormerlyNorm
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@chsocm Sorry, #chsocm WE are the PCUSA twitter people in CA. Wrong account earlier. :( Still first timers though.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:12 SFPresby
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<-Director of Communications, @UpstateNYSynod, @ELCA - FB, Twitter, Pinterest, Email Newsletters and more. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:12 nealffischer
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I'm married to a presbyterian trying to stay active in the nondominational world. trying to help ATL congregations socialize #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:12 kellydouglas
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@chsocm Founder & CEO of @OurChurchDotCom, blogger, elder of a CMA church in Clearwater, FL #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:12 paulsteinbrueck
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Jumping in on this #chsocm chat. Haven't been able to be a part lately.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:12 pastorcylar
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:12 rev_david
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Hi all, I'm a #chsocm volunteer for @TrinityTville, use FB, IG, Pinterest, Tumblr, etc. for fun and to build community.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:13 singingcarolyn
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Moderating tonight, chat founder @MeredithGould, sociologist, author, keen on social media for community, exuberantly ecumenical. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:13 chsocm
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:13 rev_david
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Who also spent the entire day in front of computer monitors. BooHooBliss #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:13 chsocm
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@chsocm Hey! Josh Burns here, Director of Web & Social Media at @ParkChurch in Chicago & blogger about social media & the church. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:13 jburno
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<- Regina. I use #chsocm for personal use, hopefully encouraging people on their faith journey.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:14 reckshow
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Great to see everyone -- regulars, returnees, and new folks. Welcome. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:14 chsocm
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Wandering, but not lost. INFP in MN. Lutheran. Technically proficient #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:15 skenow
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Once more with hashtag. Erin. #ELCA. Weekly devotion writer at God-the-Healer.com. Alum of @LutherSeminary. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:15 GodtheHealerDev
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@chsocm former pastor (DM me about it), studying role of soc med in spiritual formation, building soc med for @ETS_Detroit #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:15 pastorcylar
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Tonight we’re chatting nuts and bolts, or whatever the online equivalent might be for #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:16 chsocm
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:16 pastorcylar
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@chsocm I only spent half my day at computer. I took a break to start reading Pastrix #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:16 FormerlyNorm
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Currently a PCUSA Educator in South of Real Carolina. #chsocm by default and the resident curmudgeon here.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:16 KeepSetting
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:16 skenow
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:16 paulsteinbrueck
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@FormerlyNorm I'm going to read that after we're finished chatting! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:16 chsocm
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I fit right in with the nuts. Bolts? Not so much. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:16 RevWeb
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:17 anglobaptist
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@FormerlyNorm I'm totally enthralled with Pastrix today too! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:17 LeistCatalano
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.@FormerlyNorm @chsocm I'm going to download the audible version of Pastrix, so @Sarcasticluther can read it to me. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:17 rev_david
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.@chsocm Justin Dean, Communications Manager for Mars Hill Church in Seattle. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:17 justinjdean
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Framework: What some experienced #chsocm users take for granted is new to & for others, so back to some basics.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:19 chsocm
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:19 paulsteinbrueck
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Thinking about which platforms work best for which use... #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:19 chsocm
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#chsocm bootcamp about to get rolling - come join in!
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:19 skenow
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:19 rev_david
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Good evening! Lance Ferguson, ELCA pastor in Lincoln, NE. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:20 FergusonLance
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T1: Which social media platform works best for announcements? Why? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:20 chsocm
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:20 rev_david
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RT @chsocm T1: Which social media platform works best for announcements? Why? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:20 rev_david
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RT @chsocm: T1: Which social media platform works best for announcements? Why? #chsocm // Facebook - Largest audience
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:21 GodtheHealerDev
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T1 - All of the above. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:22 rev_david
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RT @chsocm T1: Which social media platform works best for announcements? Why? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:22 nealffischer
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T1: For the most part, Facebook. Not specifically for the platform, rather that is where most of our people are. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:22 nealffischer
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:22 pastorcylar
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T1: hmmm...maybe email is best for announcements? fb and twitter only seen by a few? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:22 LeistCatalano
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RT @nealffischer T1: For the most part, Facebook. Not specifically for the platform, rather that is where most of our people are. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:23 singingcarolyn
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T1: Facebook. Most common in our context #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:23 FergusonLance
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#chsocm T1: But Twitter brings together community quicker.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:23 GodtheHealerDev
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T1: Depends on audience & voice; pastors give YT video updates/encouragement b4 each wkd to key volunteers, FB/TW urgent mass comm #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:23 JoelNatalie
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@LeistCatalano I am with you about e-mail. So few people check announcements on facebook. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:23 SFPresby
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Derr, forgot the hashtag! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:23 FormerlyNorm
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T1 A combo of FB and twitter with links to announcement on your website. Both are shareable by friends/followers. #evangelism #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:23 RevWeb
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T1 - If you want info to be seen, put it out on many platforms. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:24 rev_david
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T1 FB likely a popular answer, due to numbers there. But blog w/e-mail list can get the announcements to people via e-mail. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:24 Denise205
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RT @rev_david T1 - If you want info to be seen, put it out on many platforms. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:24 LeistCatalano
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@chsocm T1: Does email count as "social?" How about mass texts? They readon more ppl than FB or Twitter. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:24 paulsteinbrueck
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T1: For us, it still not SM, email and voice is ONLY option, with them cross posted to FB (which cross posts to twitter). #Chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:24 KeepSetting
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RT @rev_david T1 - If you want info to be seen, put it out on many platforms // true statemnt #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:24 FergusonLance
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RT @LeistCatalano RT @rev_david T1 - If you want info to be seen, put it out on many platforms. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:25 singingcarolyn
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T1 shoot me straight, who's using texting effectively for church announcments? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:25 sethhinz
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@chsocm Wait, is this a trick question? Social media should be two-way (or more!) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:25 Denise205
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T1 - Text message for urgency. 100% read rate. Email for non-social media folks. Print for reinforcement. Then FB/Twitter. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:25 rev_david
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Two random tweet replies in the same minute …. Der #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:25 GodtheHealerDev
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Ta What would make an announcement "social"? Is there a way to make it social? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:25 chsocm
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@sethhinz I use text messaging with targeted groups almost weekly. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:25 rev_david
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T1: For the church I just pastored, email and Facebook were our only options & they worked pretty well. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:26 pastorcylar
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@Denise205 Well, email is 2 or more ways. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:26 nealffischer
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T1a What would make an announcement "social"? Is there a way to make it social? #chsocm#chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:26 chsocm
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@sethhinz Not a chance, teens/kids read about 50% others ignore from our experience. #Chsocm #text
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:26 KeepSetting
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{Note to self: type much?} #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:26 chsocm
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@Denise205 or at least it has the potential to be. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:26 nealffischer
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Episcopal deacon, frequent flyer using soc med to stay in touch with church, work, friends. Blog (mostly) daily on Daily Office. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:27 dcnpatience
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RT @chsocm {Note to self: type much?} #chsocm // Too much, probably.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:27 singingcarolyn
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@Denise205 Hah! Yes. No. Trick question. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:27 chsocm
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@rev_david @sethhinz Do you use a platform for txt messaging or do you do it manually? If platform, which one? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:27 pastorcylar
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text is ineffective for us - perceived as a nuisance #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:27 kellydouglas
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Anybody using TweetChat tonight? It's not auto-refreshing for me. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:27 LuckyCharm333
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Parish uses FB group and pages to communicate, email and Twitter to supplement. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 dcnpatience
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RT @chsocm T1a What would make an announcement "social"? Is there a way to make it social? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 pastorcylar
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T1a An announcement is social if it related to your community and invites participation. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 RevWeb
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@nealffischer True, but the comment was more a nod to @MeredithGould about broadcast vs. participatory media. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 Denise205
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@rev_david what service or method do you use to set up mass texts? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 FormerlyNorm
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@pastorcylar I manualy program the contacts. Use MassText to manage the lists. It's inexpensive. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 rev_david
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@LuckyCharm333 I'm using @TweetChat - working just great! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 skenow
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 LeistCatalano
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#chsocm A social announcement would be one that invites collaboration on the topic being announced
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 SFPresby
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@LuckyCharm333 I'm using twubs and Tweetdeck #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 chsocm
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RT @kdunigan: @rev_david @sethhinz So, how do you keep from receiving mass/group replies?? #chsocm // In settings, turn off "group text"
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:28 rev_david
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@rev_david Is that available thru iOS, or is it mainly a web service? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:29 pastorcylar
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RT @SFPresby #chsocm A social announcement would be one that invites collaboration on the topic being announced
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:29 FergusonLance
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T1. 1st e-mail, 2nd facebook, 3 twitter. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:29 StPaulsB
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:29 rev_david
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#chsocm "Come to our potluck" won't cut it. Maybe "What are you bringing to our pot luck?" Might?
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:29 SFPresby
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@rev_david @pastorcylar Does church provide funds for apps etc? #ChSocM
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:29 Kerrmudgen
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Solid answer. MT @SFPresby #chsocm T1a A social announcement would be one that invites collaboration on the topic being announced
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:30 pastorcylar
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@rev_david I'm gonna get right on that. Thanks! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:30 pastorcylar
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T1a a social announcement might ask for RSVP's or who is attending an event to comment or share #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:30 LeistCatalano
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RT @Kerrmudgen: @rev_david @pastorcylar Does church provide funds for apps etc? #ChSocM // Yes, although I pay for some personally as well
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:30 rev_david
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T2 Which social media platform would probably work best for 1:1 pastoral care? Examples? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:30 chsocm
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@rev_david Your parishioners opt-in? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:30 reckshow
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@chsocm T1a: Invite comments about what to expect/why come/join, etc. and encourage shares. Engage with replies. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:31 Denise205
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RT @chsocm T2 Which social media platform would probably work best for 1:1 pastoral care? Examples? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:31 nealffischer
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T1a-Give people something (question, etc.) to respond to and you might get interaction but they may miss the actual announcement #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:31 KeepSetting
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T2 Pinterest has lots of great meal recipes and care package ideas for pastoral care #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:31 LeistCatalano
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T1: @MeredithGould 's recent book says the way you use Social Media Tools/Strategies depends on the demographics of your church! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:31 kdunigan
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T1a: Any announcement that requires response or input can be social. @chsocm #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:32 DawnMGibson
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@SFPresby Or "Who's looking forward to Ethel's jello cassarole at the potluck?" ;) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:32 paulsteinbrueck
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Google+ ... No one to hear the conversation :) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:32 sethhinz
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@SFPresby Or what do you hope someone else brings? Might bring out some fun. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:32 Denise205
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@kdunigan A totally brilliant observation, of course! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:32 MeredithGould
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Re: mass texts: most modern church management systems (Fellowship 1, ACS, etc) have built in texting capabilities #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:32 JoelNatalie
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T2 - I find facebook, especially DMs, are where a lot of 1:1 pastoral care happens. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:32 rev_david
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T2 I use Google Docs for arranging pastoral care visits episcopalshare.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/how… #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:32 LeistCatalano
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#chsocm T2 Honestly, lately I have found reddit to be awesome for practicing online pastoral care. Just not with anyone I know :(
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:32 SFPresby
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@JoelNatalie If only most churches had modern church management systems... ;) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:32 reckshow
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When my beloved FiL passed away in March, I received so much pastoral care from FB & Twitter (much from the #chsocm community). Meant a lot.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:33 singingcarolyn
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T2: Closed #Facebook groups and private messages can work, but moderating/security needs to be super strong. #chsocm @chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:33 DawnMGibson
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@LeistCatalano I prefer DropBox to Google docs because the formatting doesn't get screwed up. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:33 MeredithGould
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Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:33 rev_david
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T2 Maybe FB messenger for people my age; phone for people older (counts as social); texting for people younger. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:33 dcnpatience
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T2 Prefer FB messaging for length. Have "heard" (read) confessions from parishioners. Very successful in deepening relationships. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:34 RevWeb
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@KeepSetting #chsocm Skype is a great answer
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:34 SFPresby
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T2 FB DMs work best when I'm doing pastoral care type stuff. But I've also used Google Hangouts. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:34 reckshow
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T2 I'm currently dealing w/death of close companion, venting & receiving support on FB. Sometimes need 140+ chars! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:34 LuckyCharm333
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@rev_david It's not for everybody. ;-) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:34 DawnMGibson
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RT @rev_david T2 - I find facebook, especially DMs, are where a lot of 1:1 pastoral care happens. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:34 paulsteinbrueck
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@reckshow money for CMS gets budgeted b4 most anything else - got to connect cong members to life of church #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:35 JoelNatalie
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T2: Watched @Sarcasticluther use Twitter+Text for care while talking about comms. for pastors with @bishophanson #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:35 nealffischer
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T2: FB inbox messages was very effective for me w/respect to pastoral care. Texting was good as well. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:35 pastorcylar
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@kdunigan I started a "care package" board to collect ideas pinterest.com/sttimsepiscopa… #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:35 LeistCatalano
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T2a Does the pastoral care started on #chsocm stay there? When/how does it transition to IRL?
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:35 chsocm
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@rev_david Examples of emergencies worthy of an all-congregation text? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:35 markalves
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T2cont.: She was saying how in her context all of her contacts were on her phone and that's how she reached people. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:36 nealffischer
9:36
RT @chsocm T2a Does the pastoral care started on #chsocm stay there? When/how does it transition to IRL?
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:36 rev_david
9:36
T2a Is SM not "real" life? How not? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:36 LuckyCharm333
9:36
@markalves We're on the Gulf Coast, so hurricanes, wildfires. The usual. ;) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:36 rev_david
9:36
RT @chsocm: T2a Does the pastoral care started on #chsocm stay there? When/how does it transition to IRL?
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:36 pastorcylar
9:36
@SFPresby #chsocm Skype has been great for Hospitalized/Hospice members and families, bring them into worship, bring groups into rooms.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:36 KeepSetting
9:37
@chsocm: T2a Does the pastoral care started on #chsocm stay there? When/how does it transition to IRL?” In local congregation, yes.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:37 Kerrmudgen
9:37
#MoreThanYouKnow MT @paulsteinbrueck: RT @rev_david T2 - I find facebook, especially DMs, r where much 1:1 pastoral care happens. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:37 SpecialPhysX
9:37
T2a: watch my wife all the time do it. Depends on who she's working with if it stays online or uses the phone. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:37 nealffischer
9:37
@JoelNatalie I like how you frame that. Helpful when I head to parish planning meeting next week. thanks. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:37 reckshow
9:37
T2: FB messaging catches pastoral moments, usually phone call/meetings quickly follow #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:37 JoelNatalie
9:37
In the absence of financial abundance we need "abundance thinking." #SACRiess #chsocm #avoidmeanness
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:37 anglobaptist
9:37
@chsocm: T2a Does the pastoral care started on #chsocm stay there? When/how does it transition to IRL?” In person follow up important IMHO
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:37 Kerrmudgen
9:37
@LuckyCharm333 Busted! Yes #chsocm is IRL. <head smack> How about in person face-to-face!
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:37 chsocm
9:37
T2a Ppl used to think the phone would end all F2F comms. Obviously not true. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:37 LuckyCharm333
9:37
T2a Always trans to IRL either by phone, meeting for coffee or in parishioner home. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:37 RevWeb
9:38
T2a - I think that's been the tricky part, people here (and I) have a hard time with transition, lack of F2F transitional subjects. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:38 KeepSetting
9:38
How about ITF (in the flesh)? Does that work? :-) RT @LuckyCharm333 T2a Is SM not "real" life? How not? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:38 pastorcylar
9:38
@pastorcylar @chsocm Facebook messages for privacy, length, multiple users if needed, can save to email #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:38 justinjdean
9:38
T2 - If it is a congregation member, I quickly follow up with a phone call / visit. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:38 rev_david
9:38
@pastorcylar Yes! ITF (In the flesh) Embodiment! Enfleshment. Glory! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:38 chsocm
9:38
RT @chsocm @pastorcylar Yes! ITF (In the flesh) Embodiment! Enfleshment. Glory! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:38 LuckyCharm333
9:39
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:39 pastorcylar
9:39
T2a If it all depends if recipient is member-ish. We might never meet some people, others will join. #chsocm @chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:39 DawnMGibson
9:39
Terminology. Instead of online / "real life," I now talk about online / incarnational. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:39 rev_david
9:40
@rev_david Doesn't "incarnational" put you in the churchy-church theology-speak danger zone w/normal people? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:40 MeredithGould
9:40
IDK abt all these distinctions. I see neighbors every day who aren't as involved in my life as some FB friends. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:40 LuckyCharm333
9:41
.@chsocm T2 I've seen it most on twitter, the one to one convos start lightly as (@) and then transition to DM convos #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:41 jasoncaston
9:41
Moving on to topic three, which is an ongoing issue that we will probably never "solve." Ready? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:41 chsocm
9:41
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:41 LuckyCharm333
9:41
@singingcarolyn @MeredithGould Usually the only people who make the distinction are "churchy people" - so it's not jargony to them. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:41 rev_david
9:41
@SFPresby @kdunigan if you set up a church account, you can start group boards and link your parishioners to your church boards #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:41 LeistCatalano
9:42
RT @chsocm Moving on to topic three, which is an ongoing issue that we will probably never "solve." Ready? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:42 LuckyCharm333
9:42
@singingcarolyn @MeredithGould I find non-church professionals are less likely to consider online "not real life." In my experience #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:42 rev_david
9:43
T3: What are the best, most practical ways to use #chsocm during worship, gatherings, council meetings, etc.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:43 chsocm
9:43
@LuckyCharm333 some of my closest friends are people I have never met. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:43 FormerlyNorm
9:43
RT @chsocm T3: What are the best, most practical ways to use #chsocm during worship, gatherings, council meetings, etc.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:43 LuckyCharm333
9:44
Me too! //RT @FormerlyNorm @LuckyCharm333 some of my closest friends are people I have never met. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:44 LuckyCharm333
9:44
@singingcarolyn there are a lot of people asking hard questions about life with little church background and they wash up at reddit #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:44 SFPresby
9:44
T3: What are the best, most practical ways to use #chsocm during worship, gatherings, council meetings, etc.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:44 pastorcylar
9:44
T3 - I love twitter during worship. @megateer does a great job live-tweeting our worship. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:44 rev_david
9:44
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:44 rev_david
9:44
RT @chsocm T3: What are the best, most practical ways to use #chsocm during worship, gatherings, council meetings, etc.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:44 nealffischer
9:44
T3 Have started FBing pics of church about 30 mins before 1st service and inviting all to join. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:44 dcnpatience
9:45
@rev_david @singingcarolyn Yeah, I should shut UP. I don't know any "normal" people anymore.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:45 MeredithGould
9:45
T3 Just like on TV, take questions via SM & answer to the group. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:45 LuckyCharm333
9:45
@chsocm #chsocm video streaming plus twitter has totally change the way PCUSA people experience their general assembly
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:45 SFPresby
9:45
@LuckyCharm333 @FormerlyNorm Glad it's not just me. I am always told I am too trusting. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:45 GodtheHealerDev
9:45
T3: Teams and predetermined hashtags. For out assembly ustream.tv comes into play for live video. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:45 nealffischer
9:45
@rev_david realizing I need to ask @megateer this, but how does tweeting affect her worship? #ChSocM
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:45 Kerrmudgen
9:45
t3cont.: FB with pics too. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:45 nealffischer
9:45
@chsocm I love tweeting notes & quotes during conferences. + connecting with other conf participants. Not much during worship. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:45 paulsteinbrueck
9:45
T3: Many of the pastors I follow on Twitter have a huge followership who tweets nuggets from their sermons. I'm edified by it. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:45 pastorcylar
9:45
T3 - Yes! Livestreaming is so important. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:45 rev_david
9:46
T3 Fan of twitter, FB & Instagram in worship. Great way to share an inspiring moment, tell friends you're in church. #evangelism #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:46 RevWeb
9:46
T3 - the our sanctuary isn't wired, so it doesn't lend itself to that sort of thing. Also, most parishioners are luddites. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:46 FormerlyNorm
9:46
@kdunigan @SFPresby setting up group boards on Pinterest has been one of the easiest ways to share admin duties for #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:46 LeistCatalano
9:46
@GodtheHealerDev @FormerlyNorm "Too trusting." SMH... I trust some ppl on SM more than I've found I can trust ITF ppl. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:46 LuckyCharm333
9:46
T3-Skype brings them in to a point, FB allows ongoing conversations w/ some, Pintrest gathers potential ideas, all limited but help #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:46 KeepSetting
9:46
T3 Did similar (pics to parish FB group) with youth and adults speaking about mission trips during sermon time. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:46 dcnpatience
9:46
@Kerrmudgen Gotta tell you that @megateer live tweeting is a blessing to me! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:46 MeredithGould
9:46
@rev_david Last week I watched the livestream of Rosh Hashana service from local synagogue. Was so powerful for me. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:46 reckshow
9:46
#chsocm t3 has anyone tried having the volunteers tweet/text kids in your youth group during the talk?
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:46 SFPresby
9:47
T3 I have a hard time tweeting and taking photos in worship. honestly, I feel awkward and intrusive #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:47 LeistCatalano
9:47
At major meetings, our Bishop will tell us to tweet, FB and/or txt what we've just heard from whatever was preached. Very effective #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:47 pastorcylar
9:47
. @Kerrmudgen @rev_david Like during a lecture, I synthesize on the spot, so think it enhances my personal listening/engagement. 1/2 #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:47 megateer
9:47
@LeistCatalano I had the same prob, even though I was the official web admin taking pics for the site! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:47 LuckyCharm333
9:47
T3 True story: I once discovered I was at service that @edkay77 was at because we both checked in w/Foursquare! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:47 MeredithGould
9:47
@LeistCatalano Me, too. I'm trying to decide if it's something I should try to conquer. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:47 reckshow
9:47
T3: We #hashtag each sermon series & folks are quoting pastor on TW. During special events lots of IG & tagging #chsocm #phonesokinchurch
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:47 JoelNatalie
9:48
T3 - Twitter is a different animal: Livetweeting is divisive, but tweeting in general is good for getting support for your view LOL #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:48 KeepSetting
9:48
When I actually get a chance to worship from the pews, I always tweet pics from the worship experience to show ppl what's happening #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:48 pastorcylar
9:48
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:48 rev_david
9:48
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:48 chsocm
9:48
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:48 LuckyCharm333
9:48
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:48 pastorcylar
9:49
T3 don't have exact same tweet/share from multiple people - personalize #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:49 skenow
9:49
@megateer Do you use your phone or a laptop or... when livetweeting? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:49 reckshow
9:49
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:49 paulsteinbrueck
9:49
@kdunigan @SFPresby I create the boards on St. Tim's account and then invite parishioners to pin from the personal accounts #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:49 LeistCatalano
9:49
@LeistCatalano I was supply presider once & posted to Instagram/FB/twitter. Acolytes thought I rocked. They shared my post. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:49 RevWeb
9:49
If I could live tweet with my mind (super power), I would rock at it. But my Cerebral Palsy muscles give me problems. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:49 GodtheHealerDev
9:49
@LeistCatalano I'm usually vested, so try to be super discreet. Otherwise, jokers in congr text to make my phone ring. #vibrate #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:49 dcnpatience
9:49
I find providing context is often a challenge in live tweeting. Many a conference has led to nastiness because context unclear #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:49 Kerrmudgen
9:50
@kdunigan @SFPresby some people were having a hard time logging into the St.Tim's admin account to pin, so group boards were easier #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:50 LeistCatalano
9:50
@Kerrmudgen You raise an important issue that I'll turn into T3a! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:50 chsocm
9:50
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:50 GodtheHealerDev
9:51
Best IG's on Sunday are of regular people serving others, modeling using of their gifts #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:51 JoelNatalie
9:51
Gotta cut out, everyone. I'm sorry I can't be on here regularly, but my house is crazy this time of night. (2yr, and 1yr old girls) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:51 pastorcylar
9:51
. @Kerrmudgen @rev_david Part of my personal discipline, but interesting to see it be outreach, as @MeredithGould attests here. :) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:51 megateer
9:51
T3a How do you provide context for your #chsocm activities, especially if you're sitting near non-social media types?
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:51 chsocm
9:52
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:52 skenow
9:52
RT @chsocm T3a How do you provide context for your #chsocm activities, especially if you're sitting near non-social media types?
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:52 LuckyCharm333
9:52
@pastorcylar same craziness here with a 7, 5, and 1 yr old. good to see you #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:52 LeistCatalano
9:52
@GodtheHealerDev Not so much setting, but tone of voice, feeling of crowd, etc. can't really translate that stuff into a tweet well #ChSocM
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:52 Kerrmudgen
9:52
Gotta take off, too! Miles to go before I sleep. Thanks, all! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:52 dcnpatience
9:52
@megateer @Kerrmudgen @rev_david Your tweets provide insight about what's speaking to you & b/c I <3 you, that's impt to me! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:52 MeredithGould
9:52
. @reckshow Phone. I’m pretty fast - skills gained during PC(USA) General Assembly, 2010. :) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:52 megateer
9:53
T3 - I also find livetweeting to lack context & often talk f2f to people who missed parts (visual or audio) that I thought impactful #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:53 KeepSetting
9:53
@SFPresby @kdunigan decorations and crafts are good ideas too! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:53 LeistCatalano
9:53
@chsocm keep at it, but take the time after/before to explain and (hopefully) enlighten #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:53 burks
9:53
T3a In #Episcopal churches it's easy to not sit near anyone. ;-) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:53 RevWeb
9:53
@dcnpatience G'night! Thanks for participating. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:53 chsocm
9:53
RT @RevWeb T3a In #Episcopal churches it's easy to not sit near anyone. ;-) #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:53 LuckyCharm333
9:53
@chsocm Context to those reading, or to those seeing you live-tweet? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:53 rev_david
9:54
T3a More bluntly put: how do you deal with someone giving you stink eye? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:54 chsocm
9:54
T3a - Our worship bulletin encourages peope to check in / connect on social media. So that helps with context #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:54 rev_david
9:54
@chsocm I show them my hamsa, of course. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:54 reckshow
9:54
T3a One parish in @episcomd planning to designate e-pews after they get wi-fi in the sanctuary. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:54 RevWeb
9:54
@chsocm #chsocm take a picture of them and put it on the internet ;)
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:54 SFPresby
9:54
@RevWeb HA! our church is full of people and well-lit - no where to hide in there #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:54 LeistCatalano
9:54
@chsocm T3a: Emoticons & symbols? :) ;) :P :o ♬ ✡ ✞ #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:54 paulsteinbrueck
9:54
@rev_david Both! But mostly the latter. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:54 MeredithGould
9:54
@Kerrmudgen It takes some creatively but its doable. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:54 GodtheHealerDev
9:55
T3a - I don't use SM in any situation I'm with others. I am oldschool and find it rude and regret it when I do do it sometimes. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:55 KeepSetting
9:55
@RevWeb @episcomd I've long wondered how long before someone brands us the e-piscopal church. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:55 thatdarnhelcat
9:55
T3a: got to explain from platform, signage, bulletin #chsocm philosophy. Senior leader must engage, give #gravitas
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:55 JoelNatalie
9:55
T3a - Also, I have during services explicitly asked people to take out devices and use them. That helps, too. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:55 rev_david
9:56
@Kerrmudgen S'ok, it was a great segue into another convo re: context. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:56 chsocm
9:56
To me, it is similar to helping the congregation get used to sounds of infants in worship. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:56 rev_david
9:56
Wow, look at that! Almost at the hour. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:56 chsocm
9:57
Be explicit about it. Talk about it. Explain it. And talk about it some more. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:57 rev_david
9:57
Final thoughts about #chsocm...or anything else before we close with prayer?
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:57 chsocm
9:58
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:58 chsocm
9:58
Just want to say, been absent last couple weeks, dealing w/deep grief & desire for retribution. Prayers, pls. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:58 LuckyCharm333
9:58
@rev_david having that come from the front of the church has a lot of impact. Starting in the pews is a bit different. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:58 skenow
9:58
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:58 rev_david
9:58
Regarding SM: RT @rev_david: Be explicit about it. Talk about it. Explain it. And talk about it some more. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:58 GodtheHealerDev
9:59
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:59 LuckyCharm333
9:59
@skenow Absolutely. Leading from the front makes a huge difference. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:59 rev_david
9:59
@LuckyCharm333 Was wondering where you were & was going to ping you if you hadn't shown up tonight. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:59 chsocm
9:59
RT @skenow @rev_david having that come from the front of the church has a lot of impact. Starting in the pews is a bit different. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:59 LeistCatalano
9:59
Worship leaders should give permission to folks to use SM during worship. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:59 RevWeb
9:59
@chsocm If you only knew the situation... *sigh* #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:59 LuckyCharm333
9:59
New to this chat? Note: we close with a prayer from Compline! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 9:59 chsocm
10:00
@LuckyCharm333 You are in my prayers. Prayers and blessings! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:00 GodtheHealerDev
10:00
Keep watch, dear Lord, with those who work or watch or weep this night & give your angels charge over those who sleep. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:00 chsocm
10:00
@RevWeb How about the worship leader tweet/FB/IG a pic of the congregation during worship? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:00 paulsteinbrueck
10:00
We’re at the hour. Thanks to all for building this chat community! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:00 chsocm
10:00
Sm win this week: just did community presentation to parents about SM. Used what I've learned doing #chsocm to support families.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:00 singingcarolyn
10:01
The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on churchsocmed.blogspot.com within a few hours. #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:01 chsocm
10:01
You ladies and gentlemen from traditional contexts are real #heroes-you are embracing where people are living: social - kudos! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:01 JoelNatalie
10:01
Thanks to our fearless leader @MeredithGould for facilitating another great conversation! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:01 rev_david
10:01
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:01 LeistCatalano
10:01
Please use #chsocm to tag content & convo in between chats.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:01 chsocm
10:01
RT @chsocm Please use #chsocm to tag content & convo in between chats.
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:01 LuckyCharm333
10:01
Moderating next week's #chsocm chat: @reckshow !!!
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:01 chsocm
10:01
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:01 rev_david
10:02
The #chsocm tweetchat is formally over for this evening, but anyone is welcome to continue chatting. #PBWY #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:02 chsocm
10:02
Anyone know of an articulate case for NOT using SM in worship? Article? Book? Etc? #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:02 Kerrmudgen
10:02
@MeredithGould Thx for leading the convo tonight! Thx who all who participated! #chsocm
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:02 paulsteinbrueck
10:02
Tuesday September 10, 2013 10:02 rev_david
10:02
 

 
 
 

The topics:
T1: Which social media platform works best for announcements? Why?
T1a What would make an announcement "social"? Is there a way to make it social? #chsocm
T2 Which social media platform would probably work best for 1:1 pastoral care? Examples? #chsocm
T2a Does the pastoral care started on #chsocm stay there? When/how does it transition to IRL?
T3: What are the best, most practical ways to use #chsocm during worship, gatherings, council meetings, etc.
T3a How do you provide context for your #chsocm activities, especially if you're sitting near non-social media types?


Tonight's chat moderated by Meredith Gould (@meredithgould)

Best bust of the evening!
Best pastoral reframe!

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