#chsocm: privacy

Lots of talk this week about privacy

so we talked about that too,

in the context of church and online ministry.

#ChSocM Tweetchat 06/11/2013

(06/11/2013)

8:54	David L Hansen @rev_david tap tap tap Is this thing on? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:54 rev_david

8:54	MeredithGould @MeredithGould Would also help to use the right account, since @rev_david is moderating tonight! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:54 MeredithGould

8:54	Kyle Mulka @mulka @chsocm We're going to put the tweet compose box in the page soon. Wanted to get something that works out there ASAP. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:54 mulka

8:55	David L Hansen @rev_david Good to see folks gathering for tonight's chat. How is everyone this week? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:55 rev_david

8:55	Robyn Barnes @theologybird @rev_david you have another 6 min and I'm already going to be late.... #causingtimeanxiety #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:55 theologybird

8:56	ChurchSocMed #chsocm @chsocm @mulka It's very very nice & clean. Add transcript (in chron order) availability & you'll attract many happy moderators! #chsocm #hcsm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:56 chsocm

8:56	David L Hansen @rev_david @mulka @chsocm I'll have to give it a try next time. Too late in the game to try something new tonight! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:56 rev_david

8:57	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch The tweetchat isn't loading #chsocm any suggestions Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:57 MicheleLKoch

8:57	Angela @mnplatypus Trying twubs too #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:57 mnplatypus

8:58	MeredithGould @MeredithGould . @MicheleLKoch You didn't get the memo? Tweetchat is...RIP. Try twubs.com or tchat.io or oneqube.com #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:58 MeredithGould

8:58	Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @mnplatypus I'm also testing out twubs tonight. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:58 LeistCatalano

8:58	Debra Avery @jazzpastord @rev_david hello #chsocm here in Oakland. Am I late? Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:58 jazzpastord

8:59	David L Hansen @rev_david It's time to start the music, it's time to light the lights, it's time to get things started on the #chsocm chat tonight! Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:59 rev_david

8:59	David L Hansen @rev_david @jazzpastord Right on time! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:59 rev_david

8:59	Julie @ohxjulie Using TweetDeck tonight, as I had some success with it at a synod assembly. Mostly afraid I'm going to forget the tag! #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:59 ohxjulie

8:59	MeredithGould @MeredithGould FWIW, my big plan is to toggle among 4 different chat platforms to try them out since I don't have to focus on moderating! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:59 MeredithGould

8:59	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch Ah, here we go, hello everyone #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:59 MicheleLKoch

8:59	Miranda Gray @mirgray @chsocm I'm trying twubs but it seems not to be working. #chsocm #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 8:59 mirgray

9:00	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @mirgray Working fine for me. Did you become a member & authorize Twitter access? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:00 MeredithGould

9:00	David L Hansen @rev_david Special welcome to the folks joining us for 1st time! If you miss some, transcript will be available: bit.ly/pTDoAb later. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:00 rev_david

9:00	David L Hansen @rev_david If you normally just listen in, consider speaking up tonight. We would love to hear from you! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:00 rev_david

9:01	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @mnplatypus Nice way of saying, "nuts." Thank you! xx #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:01 MeredithGould

9:01	David L Hansen @rev_david Howdy! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:01 rev_david

9:01	Miranda Gray @mirgray @MeredithGould First one didn't go through but the second one did. Odd. #chsocm #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:01 mirgray

9:01	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch Forgive the occasional whoot for my #spurs #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:01 MicheleLKoch

9:01	oneQube @oneQubeMe @nealffischer #chsocm chat #tweetchat will be reported tomorrow. You can use our #smartstream tonight onreQube.com Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:01 oneQubeMe

9:02	David L Hansen @rev_david We like to open our chat with prayer, to remember who we are & invite God’s presence in our conversation. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:02 rev_david

9:02	Angela @mnplatypus @MeredithGould well it would be nuts for me to try something like that but I'm sure you can handle it :) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:02 mnplatypus

9:02	David L Hansen @rev_david I'm trying our @twubs as I host tonight. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:02 rev_david

9:02	David L Hansen @rev_david The Lord be with y’all! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:02 rev_david

9:02	MeredithGould @MeredithGould {SO need prayer!} #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:02 MeredithGould

9:03	Angela @mnplatypus @rev_david and also with you #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:03 mnplatypus

9:03	Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano and also with you #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:03 LeistCatalano

9:03	jon fogle @jonfogle @MeredithGould any recommended apps? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:03 jonfogle

9:03	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch And also with you #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:03 MicheleLKoch

9:03	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @rev_david And also w/y'all, y'all or whatever #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:03 MeredithGould

9:03	Mike Rinehart @BreadTweet W/U2 #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:03 BreadTweet

9:03	David L Hansen @rev_david Almighty & merciful God, we give you thanks for this day, and for this community of learning. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:03 rev_david

9:04	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @jonfogle I'm using Twubs, Tweetdeck & also bit.ly/11eeJpB. Mostly twubs, tho. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:04 MeredithGould

9:04	David L Hansen @rev_david Be present w/ all those are lonely, suffering, sick, or grieving this night – esp those who weigh heavily on our hearts #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:04 rev_david

9:05	David L Hansen @rev_david Fill our conversation with the power, wisdom, and guidance of your Spirit. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:05 rev_david

9:05	DJ Chuang @djchuang "Top 30 church tech blogs" from @churchmag #chsocm churchm.ag/top-church-tec… \\ @SocMediaChurch made the list too Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:05 djchuang

9:05	David L Hansen @rev_david Bless the ministries of all those who are using social media to proclaim the Gospel, that our work would grow your Kingdom. Amen #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:05 rev_david

9:06	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @rev_david Amen! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:06 MeredithGould

9:06	David L Hansen @rev_david Next up: Introductions! Yay! Tell us a little bit about yourself, and why you care about #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:06 rev_david

9:06	MeredithGould @MeredithGould On my summer vacation, I...oh, wait, that wasn't the question. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:06 MeredithGould

9:07	David L Hansen @rev_david As you make your intros, you can be thinking about tonight's topic: Privacy & safety. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:07 rev_david

9:07	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @chsocm Since TweetChat seems to be broken, any recommended alternatives? #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:07 paulsteinbrueck

9:07	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch Church admin responsible for digital ministry and other duties as assigned . #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:07 MicheleLKoch

9:07	Mike Rinehart @BreadTweet Mike Rinehart. Learning how to connect church leaders across a wide geography. Gulf Coast Synod #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:07 BreadTweet

9:07	Julie @ohxjulie Julie, AiM in the @ELCA, Admissions @GettSem. After 2 wknds tweeting synod assemblies, I <3 how #ChSocM connects for the sake of the gospel. Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:07 ohxjulie

9:07	Angela @mnplatypus I'm Angela, staff at @ZionBuffalo near Minneapolis. For me #chsocm is an essential tool to keeping folks throughout the week. Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:07 mnplatypus

9:07	ChurchSocMed #chsocm @chsocm @paulsteinbrueck Not broken, done. Resurrecting tomorrow as something else. Meanwhile, use bit.ly/11ef2Av Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:07 chsocm

9:08	Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano I'm a #chsocm volunteer for @StTimsEpiscopal. I also have a prayers project @EpiscopalShare. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:08 LeistCatalano

9:08	Beth Felice @bfelice <--media slinger, social and old fashioned, future creator of reddit-o-phobe support group in a tasteful episcopal color. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:08 bfelice

9:08	David L Hansen @rev_david #legalvoiceover We assume tweets are yours alone, & do not represent your church, org, denomination, employer, spouse, or parents #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:08 rev_david

9:08	David L Hansen @rev_david #legalvoiceover Dude, don’t spam. Please refrain from pitching products, blogs, websites, services, etc during the chat. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:08 rev_david

9:08	Miranda Gray @mirgray My day I'm a IT geek and from time to time I am a #ELCIC (Canadian Lutheran) tweeter. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:08 mirgray

9:08	jon fogle @jonfogle @MeredithGould, twubs. I am in #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:08 jonfogle

9:09	Dan Webster @RevWeb #Episcopal priest. Bishop's staff. #Baltimore MD. Using SM to connect across a broad church. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:09 RevWeb

9:09	Denise Gorss @Denise205 Work on Web content for Catholic publisher in Chicago. Blogs are social media too! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:09 Denise205

9:09	David L Hansen @rev_david @Ekraal Make sure to add the hashtag #chsocm, or others will not see your tweets in the conversation. :) And welcome! Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:09 rev_david

9:09	MeredithGould @MeredithGould <--sociologist, author, digital strategist, content curation & creation, gadfly. <3 #chscom for building community. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:09 MeredithGould

9:10	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @Denise205 Hi! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:10 MeredithGould

9:10	David L Hansen @rev_david <-- Tonight's moderator. #ELCA pastor. Occasional instructor & encourager of pastors using #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:10 rev_david

9:10	Regina Heater @reckshow <- Regina, ecumenical. evangelist. @MeredithGould wannabe, so see her intro. except the sociology part. shivers #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:10 reckshow

9:10	jon fogle @jonfogle Pastor, UCC, Order of Corpus Christi, AmericanBrittanyGuy, SimpleCountryPastor. #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:10 jonfogle

9:10	Miranda Gray @mirgray Twubs will add the tag for you. But as I've learned you can turn off the URL if you click the x below the tweet box. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:10 mirgray

9:11	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @thanks for those of you who recommended Twubs. Seems to be working well. #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:11 paulsteinbrueck

9:11	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @Ekraal You're in for a fun time w/great people doing great things for church & faith #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:11 MeredithGould

9:11	Krister Ulmanis @prkrister #chsocm parish pastor, looking for a call, leaning new media Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:11 prkrister

9:12	Beth Felice @bfelice love the twub, love the new conference tools there too, #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:12 bfelice

9:12	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck I owe you a blog post & other stuff. Haven't forgotten! On my list. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:12 MeredithGould

9:12	Miranda Gray @mirgray @prkrister Hi, Krister. Long time. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:12 mirgray

9:12	David L Hansen @rev_david Background: Lots of convos this week about privacy, and the invasion thereof. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:12 rev_david

9:13	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @MeredithGould Cool. I'll be posting/sharing results from the Communications Strategy Survey tomorrow. #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:13 paulsteinbrueck

9:13	MeredithGould @MeredithGould Check out the #chsocm Twub for live tweets, photos, videos and more at twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:13 MeredithGould

9:13	Mike Rinehart @BreadTweet Downloading twubs #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:13 BreadTweet

9:13	Virginia Woodbury @vcwoodbury Social media volunteer for a church in SEPA, ELCA. Co-own a non-profit-focused creative agency by day #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:13 vcwoodbury

9:13	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck Oh, then I'm probably too late! :-( #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:13 MeredithGould

9:14	David L Hansen @rev_david @BreadTweet Glad to have you joining in tonight! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:14 rev_david

9:14	Danielle Blend Hage @daniellehage @chsocm #chsocm I serve @7hillschurch with Social Media. First time on chat. Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:14 daniellehage

9:14	MeredithGould @MeredithGould Re: Twubs. Loved how I was able to brand it for this chat, using color palette & logo for account, etc. Very cool benefit. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:14 MeredithGould

9:14	David L Hansen @rev_david Great to see so many new faces tonight! Please feel free to jump in, and ask questions if you need help! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:14 rev_david

9:14	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 Just now joining in, using Twubs for 1st time. Cheryl, left-coaster, Episcopalian, SM enthusiast #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:14 LuckyCharm333

9:14	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @MeredithGould Oh, no you're not. I'm planning several more posts in the communications strategy series. #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:14 paulsteinbrueck

9:15	Robyn Barnes @theologybird Episcopal priest, Camp Director--so all sorts of privacy stuff we wade through #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:15 theologybird

9:15	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @daniellehage Welcome! It moves quickly but there's (almost) always a transcript posted afterward. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:15 MeredithGould

9:15	David L Hansen @rev_david Drumroll ... Topic one coming ... #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:15 rev_david

9:15	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @mirgray fwee #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:15 MeredithGould

9:15	David L Hansen @rev_david T1 – Very broad. How much privacy do / should people expect when coming to events at church? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:15 rev_david

9:15	Krister Ulmanis @prkrister @mirgray #chsocm Hi Miranda, yes long time. Just learning about twitter :) Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:15 prkrister

9:16	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch @daniellehage welcome! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:16 MicheleLKoch

9:16	MeredithGould @MeredithGould T1 None or next-to-none. Privacy is a near-bankrupt concept these days & I believe that's in part due to digital technologies. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:16 MeredithGould

9:16	Beth Felice @bfelice @rev_david Do you include worship in "events" #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:16 bfelice

9:16	Miranda Gray @mirgray Retweeted by David L Hansen A1: Some privacy. More privacy than in mall but less than in doctor's office. Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:16 mirgray

9:16	jon fogle @jonfogle Privacy: my 20 something's reaction to cell tracking, shrug duh #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:16 jonfogle

9:16	David L Hansen @rev_david RT @bfelice: @rev_david Do you include worship in "events" #chsocm // Yes Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:16 rev_david

9:17	Danielle Blend Hage @daniellehage @MeredithGould thank you! I did check out previous transcripts on the blog today that I will dive more into. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:17 daniellehage

9:17	Angela @mnplatypus T1 Typically not much privacy at church - unless the particular event is sensitive in nature #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:17 mnplatypus

9:17	David L Hansen @rev_david @BreadTweet It is a website. twubs.com #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:17 rev_david

9:17	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T1: At the bottom of every email for our synod assembly was disclaimer - we are webcasting your image will likely be used. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:17 nealffischer

9:17	Julie @ohxjulie T1: A reasonable amount. My church puts names of previous week visitors in the bulletin, but I wouldn't put them on fb. #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:17 ohxjulie

9:17	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @rev_david How are you defining "privacy"? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:17 MeredithGould

9:17	Miranda Gray @mirgray A1: Grief might be private to community but isn't the understanding that our lives are shared (i.e. not private)? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:17 mirgray

9:18	David L Hansen @rev_david @MeredithGould I guess that's part of the question. :) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:18 rev_david

9:18	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch T1 I don't think it's an expectation for adults, but definitely for small children #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:18 MicheleLKoch

9:18	David Arnold @Arnezzy @djchuang that's just because you and @kkcoolj rock! =) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:18 Arnezzy

9:18	Julie @ohxjulie T1: I'm also cool with posting pictures from events, as long as people have the option to tag/share themselves, not done for them #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:18 ohxjulie

9:18	David L Hansen @rev_david Yes, the first question was intentionally very general. :) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:18 rev_david

9:18	MeredithGould @MeredithGould T1 In my experience, secrecy seems to be more prevalent than privacy in church settings. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:18 MeredithGould

9:18	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @rev_david T1: Not much. It's a public event. Privacy in personal conversations and prayer. #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:18 paulsteinbrueck

9:19	David L Hansen @rev_david RT @MicheleLKoch: T1 I don't think it's an expectation for adults, but definitely for small children #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:19 rev_david

9:19	jon fogle @jonfogle A1: opportunities for compassionate care are 'community' matters. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:19 jonfogle

9:19	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T1cont. we have put names online when appropriate - but generally leave phone #'s and emails off unless a response is needed. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:19 nealffischer

9:19	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch T1 I will sometimes wait to see what our members post on FB themselves first before sharing info #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:19 MicheleLKoch

9:20	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 T1 I never realized how difficult it would be for me to answer this question. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:20 LuckyCharm333

9:20	Miranda Gray @mirgray A1: We have privacy policy on photos (need consent) but text tweets without names are not private (yet). #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:20 mirgray

9:20	Mike Rinehart @BreadTweet T1 faces yes. I take a photo of congregation every Sunday. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:20 BreadTweet

9:20	Mike Rinehart @BreadTweet T1 careful with names. Don't always ask. Have taken stuff down at request. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:20 BreadTweet

9:21	David L Hansen @rev_david T1a – Do you distinguish between adults and children when it comes to privacy & online ministry? How? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:21 rev_david

9:21	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch Hmm the RT and reply function not working in twubs for me. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:21 MicheleLKoch

9:21	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 T1 Why would adults need/want less privacy than children? One visitor didn't want to tell us anything, even her first name. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:21 LuckyCharm333

9:21	Beth Felice @bfelice I might be the only one who gets creeped out by capturing someone else's sacred moments on film. Without their advance permission #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:21 bfelice

9:21	Laura Everett @RevEverett If you're interested in a drop in, peer-learning conversation about church & social media, join me now at #chsocm Tues 9pm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:21 RevEverett

9:21	Danielle Blend Hage @daniellehage T1 I like the idea of having a disclaimer that we are broadcasting live/recording for web. We post pics of adults- don't tag names. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:21 daniellehage

9:22	Julie @ohxjulie T1: Prayer requests are a big one. Have heard some horror stories about people learning of a family/friend death via fb #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:22 ohxjulie

9:22	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @chsocm So who has a video camera above the church door w facial recognition to take church attendance? ;) #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:22 paulsteinbrueck

9:22	Regina Heater @reckshow T1 have a great example of this... but I'd be violating privacy to share story. hmmm. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:22 reckshow

9:22	Robyn Barnes @theologybird T1 unless confidentiality is part of an activities norm (sm grps?) or it's a 1to1/f2f thing, no--and even then ppl talk #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:22 theologybird

9:22	David L Hansen @rev_david MT @bfelice: I might be the only one who gets creeped out by capturing someone else's sacred moments on film. W/o advance permission #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:22 rev_david

9:23	Miranda Gray @mirgray T1a Hmm, I'm not sure we have formal definition. But local law would trump our call anyway. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:23 mirgray

9:23	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @ohxjulie But how is that the fault of the church? Seems to me it's a breakdown of communication w/in the family/friend network. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:23 MeredithGould

9:23	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch T1a we have photo releases on kids but haven't implemented that for adults yet. Need to. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:23 MicheleLKoch

9:23	Mike Rinehart @BreadTweet @bfelice like a wedding? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:23 BreadTweet

9:23	Dan Webster @RevWeb T1a - Best practice is to not ID kids. Ever. Doubt many follow that advice. Shud really get folks OK to post images of kids. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:23 RevWeb

9:23	Robyn Barnes @theologybird So true!//RT @MeredithGould: T1 In my experience, secrecy seems to be more prevalent than privacy in church settings. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:23 theologybird

9:23	Laura Everett @RevEverett #NSA does Church MT @paulsteinbrueck So a video camera above the door w facial recognition to take church attendance? ;) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:23 RevEverett

9:23	Angela @mnplatypus T1a This is VBS week for us & parents love FB photos ... which means much photoshopping out kid's last names but not adults #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:23 mnplatypus

9:23	Denise Gorss @Denise205 @LuckyCharm333 Want/need not necessarily different with age, but more safety concerns with what's posted about children. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:23 Denise205

9:23	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @paulsteinbrueck @chsocm #chsocm re: facial recognition - waiting to get my #GoogleGlass! Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:23 nealffischer

9:24	Miranda Gray @mirgray @rev_david No. But I've noticed recently we always have multiple camera in each regular service. But no regular #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:24 mirgray

9:24	Denise Gorss @Denise205 @LuckyCharm333 That said, I think people of all ages deserve the respect that privacy gives. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:24 Denise205

9:24	David L Hansen @rev_david T2 – Quick show of hands – how many require a photo release? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:24 rev_david

9:24	Julie @ohxjulie @MeredithGould A church fb page posted about a member death very shortly after they'd been notified. I'd wait until obit posts. #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:24 ohxjulie

9:24	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 T1a Adults can have safety concerns, too. Stalkers exist. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:24 LuckyCharm333

9:24	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @nealffischer I need Google Glass to help me remember people's names ;) #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:24 paulsteinbrueck

9:24	Virginia Woodbury @vcwoodbury T1a We have photo releases for all Sunday school and VBS children. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:24 vcwoodbury

9:25	Julie @ohxjulie @rev_david Hand raised for the seminary #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:25 ohxjulie

9:25	MeredithGould @MeredithGould T2 I recommend church clients adopt that as a best practice. Rarely is it done. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:25 MeredithGould

9:25	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @ohxjulie That makes sense. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:25 MeredithGould

9:25	Miranda Gray @mirgray T1 Prayer list is a moderated mailing list. We use only first name in services and rarely print details. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:25 mirgray

9:25	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T2: I tend to use disclaimers more often than releases. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:25 nealffischer

9:26	MeredithGould @MeredithGould T2 Should be non-negotiable best practice for anything involving children. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:26 MeredithGould

9:26	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch @paulsteinbrueck wow, I didn't know that existed. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:26 MicheleLKoch

9:26	Denise Gorss @Denise205 @mnplatypus Why do you need to crop out names? How did they get in the pic to begin with? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:26 Denise205

9:26	Robyn Barnes @theologybird T1a: yes! For so many reasons: safety, consent, parent concerns, legal issues. Minors and sm is a lot of navigation #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:26 theologybird

9:26	Dan Webster @RevWeb T2 - Releases should become norm. Probably folks will see it as an annoyance but I think ppl will be grateful to be asked. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:26 RevWeb

9:26	Julie @ohxjulie T2: I'd definitely do one for VBS, especially since you have people who probably aren't part of the "regular" community #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:26 ohxjulie

9:27	Tim Larson @Ekraal @RevEverett This is a learning experience for me. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:27 Ekraal

9:27	Denise Gorss @Denise205 Not enough! @rev_david T2 – Quick show of hands – how many require a photo release? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:27 Denise205

9:27	Mike Rinehart @BreadTweet Me like twubs! #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:27 BreadTweet

9:27	MeredithGould @MeredithGould RT @TweetChat: Product Update: #TweetChat Functionality to be Resurrected Tomorrow wp.me/p3akEd-1im via @internetlabs #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:27 MeredithGould

9:27	Angela @mnplatypus @LuckyCharm333 for us it lets them know photos will be taken and used and they should let us know if they want to opt out #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:27 mnplatypus

9:27	Miranda Gray @mirgray T2: Members must have releases. Visitors are not covered. But I don't think I've seen a visitor in a shared pic yet. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:27 mirgray

9:27	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:27 MicheleLKoch

9:27	Angela @mnplatypus @Denise205 Nametags #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:27 mnplatypus

9:27	David L Hansen @rev_david If you require a release, how do you handle visitors at events / worship? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:27 rev_david

9:27	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 <-- had stalker years ago who met me in church, found my address in directory. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:27 LuckyCharm333

9:28	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @rev_david T2: The church staff is required to get a photo release or parents are required to sign one? #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:28 paulsteinbrueck

9:28	David L Hansen @rev_david T2a - If you require a release, how do you handle visitors at events / worship? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:28 rev_david

9:28	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 @nealffischer Ah. Good idea, covers all bases! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:28 LuckyCharm333

9:29	Miranda Gray @mirgray @LuckyCharm333 Yes, I had a similar experience. Multiple directories are available in church lobby to all who wander in. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:29 mirgray

9:29	Robyn Barnes @theologybird @Denise205 @LuckyCharm333 adults are more likely to have made a decision abt their privacy, and say so. Kids, less so #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:29 theologybird

9:29	Denise Gorss @Denise205 @LuckyCharm333 True, adults need safety too, no doubt. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:29 Denise205

9:30	Robyn Barnes @theologybird Yes! Esp bc of the minors RT @rev_david: T2 – Quick show of hands – how many require a photo release? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:30 theologybird

9:30	Julie @ohxjulie Group shots of young people are always better -- I stay away from closeups that focus on one or two kids #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:30 ohxjulie

9:30	Brandon A. Cox @brandonacox RT @djchuang: "Top 30 church tech blogs" from @churchmag #chsocm churchm.ag/top-church-tec… \\ @SocMediaChurch made the list too Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:30 brandonacox

9:31	Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @rev_david I try to ask permission for all kid & adult photos I take and post #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:31 LeistCatalano

9:31	Laura Everett @RevEverett T2: re: photo release for church events- anyone have one posted online we could use as a template? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:31 RevEverett

9:31	David L Hansen @rev_david At VBS, we posted signage informing of photos, & giving parents chance to opt out. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:31 rev_david

9:32	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @mirgray Some churches have signs notifying church attenders service is being broadcast. #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:32 paulsteinbrueck

9:32	Miranda Gray @mirgray @RevEverett Check your local or national church body for a privacy policy. It is a good shared practice. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:32 mirgray

9:32	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @RevEverett Google! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:32 MeredithGould

9:32	David L Hansen @rev_david We are going to be adding a notice in bulletins. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:32 rev_david

9:33	Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn Hi there, just arrived and read the stream. With VBS photo ops coming up, this is a great topic. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:33 singingcarolyn

9:33	Angela @mnplatypus I'm thankful we've never actually had anyone opt out ... I'm thinking it would prevent the 'big picture' group shots #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:33 mnplatypus

9:33	Dan Webster @RevWeb T2a-In Utah, always told news media no pix of ppl receiving Communion in case their Mormon or Catholic bishop recognized them. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:33 RevWeb

9:33	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @RevEverett #chsocm re: example release - check out qub.me/Na8J88 from the @ELCA Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:33 nealffischer

9:33	Virginia Woodbury @vcwoodbury Our VBS registration form has photo release on it. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:33 vcwoodbury

9:33	Mike Rinehart @BreadTweet T2 sample bulletin notice? #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:33 BreadTweet

9:33	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch Excellent idea RT @rev_david: We are going to be adding a notice in bulletins. #chsocm #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:33 MicheleLKoch

9:33	MeredithGould @MeredithGould T2a Trying to wrap my brain around how you'd ask visitors to sign releases. It's already difficult to manage great hospitality #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:33 MeredithGould

9:34	David L Hansen @rev_david @BreadTweet "Photos taken during worship may be used for publicity online & in print ... #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:34 rev_david

9:34	Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn @mnplatypus You just have to make sure those kids are not front & center. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:34 singingcarolyn

9:34	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @theologybird Don't you have as release form that you can share with @RevEverett ? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:34 MeredithGould

9:34	David L Hansen @rev_david @BreadTweet ... I you would not like your picture taken, please speak to an usher." #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:34 rev_david

9:35	Miranda Gray @mirgray @rev_david Maybe it was easier when photos weren't allowed in the service.... #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:35 mirgray

9:35	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch @rev_david totally need to implement that this week. We have a pro photographer who is a member and shoots worship each week. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:35 MicheleLKoch

9:35	Steve Kenow @skenow @MeredithGould T2a how many would have visited w/o 1st seeing the website? Might get the idea that photos are taken/used. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:35 skenow

9:35	Angela @mnplatypus @singingcarolyn Eh ... seems people often pick out and tag someone in the background, and if they'd asked not to be photographed ... #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:35 mnplatypus

9:35	Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn @MeredithGould Welcome to church! We just have a few legal forms here for you to sign before you worship... #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:35 singingcarolyn

9:36	Robyn Barnes @theologybird @MeredithGould @RevEverett I'm happy to share ours--used with kids at Camp. Will send l8r, at wrong computer now #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:36 theologybird

9:36	David L Hansen @rev_david MT @mirgray: @rev_david Was it easier when photos weren't allowed in service #chsocm //When? I have worship photos going back 50 yrs. Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:36 rev_david

9:36	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @singingcarolyn More hospitable to say, "And we offer free make-up & hair styling if you want to be snapped." #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:36 MeredithGould

9:37	David L Hansen @rev_david T3 - Photos are one thing, here's another. Prayer concerns - public information or private? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:37 rev_david

9:37	Carolyn Clement @singingcarolyn @mirgray But that's not the way lots of folks operate now. They WANT to share, the expectation is there. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:37 singingcarolyn

9:37	Adam WC @adamwc T2 I get it for legal and special circumstance issues but on the whole, find parents who are “scared” just aren’t knowledgeable #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:37 adamwc

9:37	Angela @mnplatypus T3 our prayer request names (but not reasons) are in the bulletin ... which is online as a PDF #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:37 mnplatypus

9:38	Robyn Barnes @theologybird T3: I already ask if ppl want me to share a prayer concern with anyone, sm is just part of that convo #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:38 theologybird

9:38	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch We started including prayer concerns in our wkly e-newsletter. members seem to like it. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:38 MicheleLKoch

9:38	Beth Felice @bfelice Well, we're still talking about this like we control it (who records what when). that seems to be changing. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:38 bfelice

9:38	Angela @mnplatypus T3 I visited a church that had names and lots of details posted in the narthex and that made me uncomfortable #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:38 mnplatypus

9:38	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch T3 followup, but not the actual issue, just name #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:38 MicheleLKoch

9:38	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T3: permission based. We make public some prayers for health, comfort etc., we always ask directly for permission. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:38 nealffischer

9:38	Jim Naughton @JimNaught @ohxjulie I get that in terms of security but not quality & variety of image. Churches can pretty much ape school policies I think #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:38 JimNaught

9:38	Adam WC @adamwc T2 This is my favorite yet. Spot the kid I had to photoshop out? #chsocm pic.twitter.com/x2U8ANJZON Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:38 adamwc

9:39	Miranda Gray @mirgray @mnplatypus But online information is forever. What if a future employer googles them to guess at work health? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:39 mirgray

9:39	Angela @mnplatypus @bfelice so true! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:39 mnplatypus

9:39	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 @MicheleLKoch E-newsletters might seem to be more private, but even they can go astray. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:39 LuckyCharm333

9:39	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @rev_david T3: Great question. Probably should have a way to indicate how private it is. #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:39 paulsteinbrueck

9:39	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer RT @bfelice Well, we're still talking about this like we control it (who records what when). that seems to be changing. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:39 nealffischer

9:39	Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @rev_david T3 we are not doing prayers for specific people on sm. only doing general prayers and thanksgivings #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:39 LeistCatalano

9:39	David L Hansen @rev_david @BreadTweet Does it seem too clunky? Or unhelpful? Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:39 rev_david

9:39	Julie @ohxjulie @JimNaught What do most school policies say? #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:39 ohxjulie

9:40	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch @LuckyCharm333 yes, they can be forwarded, that's my concern if we put phone #s or link to maps to homes ect. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:40 MicheleLKoch

9:40	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 @adamwc 2nd from left, back row #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:40 LuckyCharm333

9:40	Angela @mnplatypus @mirgray I don't know - they certainly aren't all health concerns, but some might assume they are #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:40 mnplatypus

9:40	Dan Webster @RevWeb Retweeted by David L Hansen T3 - @episcomd we always ask folks requesting prayers how widely they want it shared. Some are very private. Others not so much. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:40 RevWeb

9:40	Steve Kenow @skenow @rev_david T3 allow them to indicate privacy for the pryaer request #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:40 skenow

9:41	Robyn Barnes @theologybird @RevEverett here's a link to our release, media on pg 2. campmarshallmt.org/wp/wp-content/… #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:41 theologybird

9:41	MeredithGould @MeredithGould Agree w/@bfelice. Cultural notions of what is "private" & "public" have change significantly. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:41 MeredithGould

9:41	Beth Felice @bfelice People deserve the right to tell /show their own stories, in their own time. These are/can be some tender moments. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:41 bfelice

9:41	Julie @ohxjulie @JimNaught And then closeups are okay? Interesting...I'll poke around some school district sites to check it out. Thanks! #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:41 ohxjulie

9:41	Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @RevWeb @episcomd yes, some people welcome public prayer #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:41 LeistCatalano

9:42	MeredithGould @MeredithGould Public/private distinctions differ according to generational cohort, often significantly. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:42 MeredithGould

9:42	Denise Gorss @Denise205 @bfelice True, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be responsible with what we put out there. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:42 Denise205

9:42	David L Hansen @rev_david RT @MeredithGould: Public/private distinctions differ according to generational cohort, often significantly. #chsocm // So true! Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:42 rev_david

9:42	MeredithGould @MeredithGould What older generations consider private or often considered "no big deal" to younger people. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:42 MeredithGould

9:42	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch I thinks its a denominational thing to.Epis whisper names, Methodists put their hand up and say concern nice and loud. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:42 MicheleLKoch

9:43	Krister Ulmanis @prkrister @rev_david #chsocm Never put last name of people on any FB or website and would never put reasons for prayers unless toms so specifically Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:43 prkrister

9:43	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @MicheleLKoch And Quakers? ;-) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:43 MeredithGould

9:43	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @MicheleLKoch "I thinks its a denominational thing to." and us Lutherans nail it to doors #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:43 nealffischer

9:43	Beth Felice @bfelice All time SM fail, person posted on FB about size of tumor removed, before pt had regained consciousness & knew what happened to him. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:43 bfelice

9:44	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch @MeredithGould haha #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:44 MicheleLKoch

9:44	MeredithGould @MeredithGould Ways of expressing concern & solidarity differ between age cohorts. What some consider invasive, others do not #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:44 MeredithGould

9:44	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @chsocm I send my prayer requests via text so the people at NSA can pray for me. ;) #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:44 paulsteinbrueck

9:44	Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano @MeredithGould personality is also a factor for public vs private distinctions. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:44 LeistCatalano

9:44	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 @bfelice facepalm #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:44 LuckyCharm333

9:44	Tim Larson @Ekraal @RevWeb That's amazing advice! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:44 Ekraal

9:44	Angela @mnplatypus @nealffischer Aha, perhaps that explains our listing it in the bulletin and the other church posting it in the narthex :) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:44 mnplatypus

9:45	Denise Gorss @Denise205 Good service would be to help people think through these issues for their own use. Too many post first and think consequences later. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:45 Denise205

9:45	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck Do NOT get me started. No one at NSA gives a hoot about anyone's anything. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:45 MeredithGould

9:45	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer @paulsteinbrueck @chsocm I assume you are on the "ShareEverything" plan #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:45 nealffischer

9:45	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @MeredithGould You may be surprised to know I used to work for NSA. Seriously. #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:45 paulsteinbrueck

9:45	Julie @ohxjulie @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck I'm mostly glad SOMEBODY's been listening to what I have to say ;) #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:45 ohxjulie

9:46	Robyn Barnes @theologybird generation, personality, subject--all impact public/private info decisions. There are things I don't put online :) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:46 theologybird

9:46	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck Not at all surprised. Seriously! Not. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:46 MeredithGould

9:46	Steve Kenow @skenow T3 here's a practical example of collecting prayer requests online qub.me/T24SN0 #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:46 skenow

9:46	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 @paulsteinbrueck Really? I used to work for Microsoft, & would laugh when ppl thought we read their email. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:46 LuckyCharm333

9:47	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @LeistCatalano Yes, I have a chapter about personality types and #chsocm use in my new book. Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:47 MeredithGould

9:47	Tim Larson @Ekraal @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck The NSA has better things to do than monitor church discussions... #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:47 Ekraal

9:47	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch @skenow We also have a link for prayer requests on or website and wkly e-news. Goes to the pastor #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:47 MicheleLKoch

9:48	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @Ekraal Yeah, like getting smarter about hiring contractors?! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:48 MeredithGould

9:48	Miranda Gray @mirgray @Ekraal True in past but now it is monitored automagically without and datamined. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:48 mirgray

9:48	Dan Webster @RevWeb @Ekraal Or, as we in Maryland call it; No Such Agency. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:48 RevWeb

9:48	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 @MeredithGould How about not hiring contractors at all? Keep Nat'l security in public hands! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:48 LuckyCharm333

9:48	Angela @mnplatypus T3 we do have other options for prayer requests (pastors, staff, private prayer chain), not all are listed in the bulletin #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:48 mnplatypus

9:48	Robyn Barnes @theologybird @MeredithGould: @Ekraal Yeah, like getting smarter about hiring contractors?! // If only #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:48 theologybird

9:49	David L Hansen @rev_david T4 - Does more privacy (children, etc) or less privacy (transparency, etc) help the church to be a safe space #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:49 rev_david

9:49	MeredithGould @MeredithGould T4 Not to be flip but church doesn't hurt people, people hurt people. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:49 MeredithGould

9:50	Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch T4 appropriate privacy. easy answer, but has to be balanced. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:50 MicheleLKoch

9:50	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 T4 Did Jesus call us to be safe, or bold? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:50 LuckyCharm333

9:50	Robyn Barnes @theologybird T4 I think there's a distinction btw transparency and privacy. Transparency combats secrecy. Privacy=healthy boundaries for ppl #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:50 theologybird

9:50	Miranda Gray @mirgray T4 I don't know if privacy and safety are directly correlated. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:50 mirgray

9:50	Yo Church So Dumb @yochurchsodumb Yo church so old, its idea of #chsocm is a telegraph prayer chain! Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:50 yochurchsodumb

9:50	David L Hansen @rev_david RT @MicheleLKoch: T4 appropriate privacy. easy answer, but has to be balanced. #chsocm // Makes sense to me. Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:50 rev_david

9:50	Krister Ulmanis @prkrister @rev_david the church is a safe place?. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:50 prkrister

9:51	Angela @mnplatypus T4 I guess that's the key, the balance between safety and outreach #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:51 mnplatypus

9:51	David L Hansen @rev_david RT @prkrister: @rev_david the church is a safe place?. #chsocm // I think we try to be. Varying success. Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:51 rev_david

9:51	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 T4 If church is safe, why are so many ppl scared of it? ;-) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:51 LuckyCharm333

9:52	Miranda Gray @mirgray T4a Transparent policies (including privacy) which are well thought and acted on would lead to safer churches. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:52 mirgray

9:52	MeredithGould @MeredithGould T4 On my prayer list: ditching the word "transparency" in favor of "truth telling." #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:52 MeredithGould

9:52	Steve Kenow @skenow T4 depends on whose info you are sharing. Your own: be transparent. Others: respect privacy #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:52 skenow

9:52	Dan Webster @RevWeb T4 - For church, maybe the Q should be what's the pastoral thing to do about safe church/privacy. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:52 RevWeb

9:52	Krister Ulmanis @prkrister “@rev_david: RT @prkrister: @rev_david the church is a safe place?. #chsocm // I think we try to be. Varying success.” True dat! Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:52 prkrister

9:52	Robyn Barnes @theologybird Adding it to mine: @MeredithGould: T4 On my prayer list: ditching the word "transparency" in favor of "truth telling." #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:52 theologybird

9:53	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @theologybird Well, as you know, I go ape crazy around jargon. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:53 MeredithGould

9:53	David L Hansen @rev_david MT @MeredithGould: On my prayer list: ditching the word "transparency" #chsocm // On my to-do list: Find more reasons to use "transparency" Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:53 rev_david

9:53	Julie @ohxjulie T4: It's gotta be a balance. Safety is key, but that doesn't mean keeping social media on lockdown. #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:53 ohxjulie

9:53	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @rev_david Nice! Now I really am getting on a plane. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:53 MeredithGould

9:53	Robyn Barnes @theologybird @MeredithGould Good! Church is BAD at overuse of jargon. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:53 theologybird

9:54	David L Hansen @rev_david @MeredithGould :-P #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:54 rev_david

9:54	Julie @ohxjulie @theologybird @MeredithGould It's because we're all so authentic and missional. #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:54 ohxjulie

9:54	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @reckshow As in I can see right through @rev_david #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:54 MeredithGould

9:55	David L Hansen @rev_david Here we come to the end of a great hour. Final thoughts on churches and privacy? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:55 rev_david

9:55	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @ohxjulie @theologybird As we lay stuff at the Foot of The Cross and Lift It Up to The Lord. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:55 MeredithGould

9:55	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer T4cont.: Organizational transparency engenders trust and loyalty. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:55 nealffischer

9:55	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @ohxjulie @theologybird And you know I was thinking a different word for "stuff," right? #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:55 MeredithGould

9:56	Regina Heater @reckshow Final thoughts: seek permission. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:56 reckshow

9:56	MeredithGould @MeredithGould Final thoughts: What you say here, what you hear here...oh wait, wrong meeting. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:56 MeredithGould

9:56	Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck @rev_david Church shud b a safe place 4 ppl 2 talk a/b their doubts & failings w/o being judged or made public #ChSocM Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:56 paulsteinbrueck

9:56	David L Hansen @rev_david The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on churchsocmed.blogspot.com within a few hours. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:56 rev_david

9:56	Robyn Barnes @theologybird @MeredithGould @ohxjulie I automatically substituted--bc what I would have used ;) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:56 theologybird

9:57	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 My last church became so "private" that most events weren't open to public. No evangelism. :-( #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:57 LuckyCharm333

9:57	David L Hansen @rev_david RT @reckshow: Final thoughts: seek permission. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:57 rev_david

9:57	MeredithGould @MeredithGould Final thoughts: Do unto others, etc. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:57 MeredithGould

9:57	Robyn Barnes @theologybird @LuckyCharm333 Um... #Igotnothing #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:57 theologybird

9:57	Neal F. Fischer @nealffischer Final thoughts. Be Googley. Don't be evil, allow life to be a beta (never finished), make mistakes well and learn from them. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:57 nealffischer

9:58	Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano <--currently on a transition team/ search committee and got in trouble for being too transparent #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:58 LeistCatalano

9:58	David L Hansen @rev_david G Coming up on the hour, we conclude with a prayer from Compline: #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:58 rev_david

9:58	Yo Church So Dumb @yochurchsodumb Yo church so old, its idea of worship projection is Plato's Cave! #andtheystillcomplainaboutit #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:58 yochurchsodumb

9:58	Dan Webster @RevWeb Be smart, caring, and hospitable. Respect your ppl's wishes whether members or guests. Above all, be pastoral. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:58 RevWeb

9:58	MeredithGould @MeredithGould Final thought: Don't make Jesus weep by being a jerk. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:58 MeredithGould

9:58	Beth Felice @bfelice MT @reckshow: seek permission// err on the side of gentle #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:58 bfelice

9:58	Robyn Barnes @theologybird final thoughts: education! more ppl know=better decisions both ways #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:58 theologybird

9:58	Laura Everett @RevEverett CS Lewis on lion Aslan "He's not safe, but he is good." RT @LuckyCharm333 If church is safe, why are so many ppl scared of it? ;-) #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:58 RevEverett

9:58	Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333 Final thought: Golden Rule, but be not afraid. Mistakes will be made. Accept, learn, move on. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:58 LuckyCharm333

9:58	David L Hansen @rev_david Keep watch, dear Lord, with those who work or watch or weep this night & give your angels charge over those who sleep. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:58 rev_david

9:59	David L Hansen @rev_david Thank you for the privilege of allowing me to learn from you for an hour! It's been great! #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:59 rev_david

9:59	David L Hansen @rev_david Tune in next week. Same chat-time. Same chat-channel. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:59 rev_david

9:59	Miranda Gray @mirgray @rev_david Thank you for leading us to ponder this issue together. #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:59 mirgray

9:59	MeredithGould @MeredithGould @rev_david Thank YOU! Love how you craft questions & guide the convo. #gifted #chsocm Tuesday June 11, 2013 9:59 MeredithGould

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David L Hansen @rev_david

Keep talking amongst yourselves for as long as you like, but the chat is officially over. #chsocm

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:00 rev_david

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Robyn Barnes @theologybird

@revdavid Timely topic, great questions. Thanks! #chsocm

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:00 theologybird

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Beth Felice @bfelice

@rev_david Thank you for this chat! #chsocm

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:00 bfelice

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David L Hansen @rev_david

@MeredithGould Thanks! #chsocm

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:00 rev_david

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Cheryl K.@LuckyCharm333

For those coveting the familiar features of TweetChat, let us pray. #chsocm

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:00 LuckyCharm333

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Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck

@rev_david Thanks David! #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:00 paulsteinbrueck

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Laura Catalano @LeistCatalano

@rev_david thanks for a great #chsocm chat (and thanks to my kids for finally giving me a chance to participate)

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:01 LeistCatalano

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Michele Koch @MicheleLKoch

@rev_david Thank you. Good to part of #chsocm again. been gone a while. #chsocm

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:01 MicheleLKoch

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Regina Heater @reckshow

yes, @rev_david, it's CLEAR you have a gift for #chsocm moderation.

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:01 reckshow

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Paul Steinbrueck @paulsteinbrueck

@rev_david @MeredithGould Would love to see a blog post a/b best practices for church/online privacy issues. #chsocm twubs.com/chsocm

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:01 paulsteinbrueck

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MeredithGould @MeredithGould

@reckshow You do, too. In fact everyone on the team rocks a moderating. I can basically leave now!! #chsocm

Tuesday June 11, 2013 10:01 MeredithGould

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The topics:
T1: Very broad. How much privacy do / should people expect when
coming to events at church?
T1a: Do you distinguish between adults and children when it comes to
privacy & online ministry? How?
T2: Quick show of hands – how many require a photo release?
T2a: If you require a release, how do you handle visitors at events /
worship? #chsocm
T3: Photos are one thing, here's another. Prayer concerns - public
information or private?
T4: Does more privacy (children, etc) or less privacy (transparency,
etc) help the church to be a safe space.

This week's chat moderated by David Hansen (@Rev_David)

#chsocm

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Thursday, February 5, 2015

#ChSocM (Church Social Media) Chat Transcript: Privacy Online, Protection, and Ministry

Friday, September 19, 2014

#ChSocM (Church Social Media) Chat Transcript: Supporting, Monitoring, and Protecting Teens on Social Media

Tuesday, July 15, 2014

#ChSocM (Church Social Media) Chat Transcript: Protecting Online Privacy

Tuesday, June 11, 2013

#ChSocM Chat Transcript: 6/11/13 | Privacy in the Context of Church & Online Ministry