A cornucopia of topics as the school year starts,
including but not limited to learning, teaching,
and generating engagement.
including but not limited to learning, teaching,
and generating engagement.
9:00 | Ding, Ding, Ding! It’s 9pmET and you know what that means... #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:00 singingcarolyn |
9:00 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:00 singingcarolyn |
9:00 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:00 singingcarolyn |
9:00 | Looking forward to tonight's #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:00 JeffKRoss |
9:01 | Welcome, one & all, to the weekly church & social media chat. A special warm welcome to all here for the 1st time! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:01 singingcarolyn |
9:01 | Friends, I’ll be discussing churches and social media with friends for the next hour tonight. Mute or join as you please. #ChSocM Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:01 azrork |
9:01 | If it’s your 1st visit, please don’t panic at the pace! Transcript will be available here: bit.ly/pTDoAb #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:01 singingcarolyn |
9:02 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:02 skenow |
9:02 | We always open the chat with prayer before moving on to self-introductions. Are you ready? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:02 singingcarolyn |
9:03 | Already ditched tweetchat & back on twubs! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:03 MeredithGould |
9:03 | @MeredithGould I'm on Twubs tonight, too. And Tweetdeck. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:03 singingcarolyn |
9:04 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:04 nealffischer |
9:04 | @MeredithGould just the opposite for me - login to Twubs not responding #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:04 skenow |
9:04 | The Lord be with you! Let us pray. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:04 singingcarolyn |
9:04 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:04 MeredithGould |
9:04 | Gracious God, we thank you that you make all things new. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:04 singingcarolyn |
9:04 | @nealffischer @MeredithGould a search column in web.tweetdeck.com works great for me. Real-time updates. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:04 therealjonlee |
9:05 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:05 MeredithGould |
9:05 | @singingcarolyn and also with you #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:05 LeistCatalano |
9:05 | We praise you for the gift of life, for the blessing of a new season, for the mercy that makes each day a fresh start. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:05 singingcarolyn |
9:06 | @MeredithGould a poorly placed pop up was behind all the login malarcky. Signed in to twubs now, too #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:06 skenow |
9:06 | RT @singingcarolyn We praise you for the gift of life, the blessing of a new season, the mercy that makes each day a fresh start. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:06 MeredithGould |
9:06 | We give thanks for this & every opportunity to share experience and inquiry anchored in faith. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:06 singingcarolyn |
9:06 | @MeredithGould That is nice. Been a few years since I've check out twubs. Looking again now. May try it out tonight. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:06 therealjonlee |
9:07 | We ask your Holy Spirit to inspire and guide us in our conversation tonight... #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:07 singingcarolyn |
9:07 | RT @singingcarolyn We ask your Holy Spirit to inspire and guide us in our conversation tonight... #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:07 MeredithGould |
9:07 | ...as we seek to better proclaim your wonderful name. Amen. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:07 singingcarolyn |
9:07 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:07 skenow |
9:08 | RT @singingcarolyn We ask you Holy Spirit to inspire and guide us in our conversation tonight... #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:08 bfelice |
9:08 | Amen! And, what the heck, hallelujah! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:08 MeredithGould |
9:09 | RT @MeredithGould Amen! And, what the heck, hallelujah! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:09 skenow |
9:09 | RT @MeredithGould Amen! And, what the heck, hallelujah! #chsocm// Because we can. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:09 singingcarolyn |
9:09 | Inquiring minds want to know: who’s here? Please let everyone know your church affiliation & how you currently use social media.#chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:09 singingcarolyn |
9:09 | (Even if you planned to just be a spectator at tonight’s tweetchat, please let us know you’re here.) #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:09 singingcarolyn |
9:10 | RT @singingcarolyn (Even if you planned to just be a spectator at tonight’s tweetchat, please let us know you’re here.) #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:10 skenow |
9:10 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:10 sethhinz |
9:10 | hello #chsocm tribe, how is your week so far? Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:10 bfelice |
9:10 | (fine print): We will assume tweets during this chat are yours & don’t represent your church or organization. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:10 singingcarolyn |
9:10 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:10 MeredithGould |
9:11 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:11 azrork |
9:11 | @singingcarolyn new Communications Director for Central Baptist Church in College Station, TX. Very small SM presence currently. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:11 therealjonlee |
9:11 | @MyCuteLife @ScholasticTeach @Scholastic Introducing social media responsibly #backtoschool pic.twitter.com/huwxCMKHhd Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:11 KMcCluska |
9:11 | I do #chsocm for @StTimsEpiscopal and prayers for @EpiscopalShare I'm also trying to put 3 kids to bed now, tackle homework, etc. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:11 LeistCatalano |
9:11 | #Episcopal priest on bishop's staff in #Baltimore. Using SM to share Good News and other fabulous tidbits. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:11 RevWeb |
9:11 | Kindly remember that we’re here to share with & support each other. Please use DM or email to pitch products/services.#chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:11 singingcarolyn |
9:11 | Me=PhD student in theology and very part-time priest associate at a small-town parish in NC. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:11 KaraNSlade |
9:12 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:12 nealffischer |
9:12 | Greetings from Iowa nice to be at tonight's tweetup #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:12 synodmark |
9:12 | <-church communications consultant, working writer, author, keen on digital strategy & using #chsocm to build community. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:12 MeredithGould |
9:12 | CNY Episcopal diocese and local church comm. use SM to learn, stay in touch, and stay sane. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:12 EnsignPierce |
9:12 | We are just starting to use Facebook and have had a web site for a few years. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:12 KaraNSlade |
9:12 | Moderating tonight: me, a recently vacationing, summer-loving, fan o’fall, vestry communications volunteer/webmaster @TrinityTville. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:12 singingcarolyn |
9:13 | Jeff Ross here from Louisville, KY, member of @walnutstreetbc, do #socialmedia professionally but nor for my church (yet) #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:13 JeffKRoss |
9:13 | @JeffKRoss @walnutstreetbc It's only a matter of time... Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:13 singingcarolyn |
9:13 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:13 singingcarolyn |
9:13 | Sweaty Lutheran in MN, raising eyebrows on Twitter, Facebook, PInterest and G+. Alter ego of @ChristianWebRes #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:13 skenow |
9:13 | <- regina. ecumenical. evangelist. sorting out how I can use #chsocm to encourage ppl in their faith. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:13 reckshow |
9:13 | @EnsignPierce Staying sane part is very important. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:13 singingcarolyn |
9:13 | FWIW, I'm cranky about church websites today. Been looking at too many crappy ones that aren't integrate w/ #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:13 MeredithGould |
9:14 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:14 revscottstweets |
9:14 | @chsocm Josh Burns here in Chicago, Director of Web & Social Media at @ParkChurch! Glad to be here. :-) #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:14 jburno |
9:14 | @synodmark Hi Iowan! I'm a Nebraskan (who lives in New England). Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:14 singingcarolyn |
9:14 | <-network builder of the Episcopal sort here. happy when they grow in unexpected ways. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:14 bfelice |
9:14 | @MeredithGould not looking at ours...its done for the count. Totally hacked #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:14 SandiCarter3 |
9:14 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:14 LeistCatalano |
9:15 | It's so great to hear from you all! Keep those intros coming as we launch into the first topic. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:15 singingcarolyn |
9:15 | @SandiCarter3 Maybe a sign to get rid of it?!? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:15 MeredithGould |
9:15 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:15 skwechter |
9:15 | I don’t know about you, but the start of school always feels more like the beginning of the New Year than does Jan 1. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:15 singingcarolyn |
9:15 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:15 skenow |
9:15 | @MeredithGould Burning bush sort of sign yes. working on new one #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:15 SandiCarter3 |
9:16 | I think about “new year” plans in late August, & many churches do too, with ministry fairs and back-to-church events. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:16 singingcarolyn |
9:16 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:16 bfelice |
9:16 | Tonight, we’ll talk about things we can do, using #chsocm, to better engage, and encourage, and be the Church this "year." Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:16 singingcarolyn |
9:16 | no website better than bad one? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:16 SandiCarter3 |
9:17 | @singingcarolyn I'm blow away that 5774 is coming up so soon! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:17 MeredithGould |
9:17 | @SandiCarter3 No doubt. A bad website will turn people away quickly, IMO. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:17 therealjonlee |
9:17 | So, intros are over for now...here comes an actual question. Hover your fingers over the keyboard and get ready... #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:17 singingcarolyn |
9:17 | @SandiCarter3 in most cases, yes - take the site down, put up a simple contact page, redesign and relaunch #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:17 skenow |
9:17 | @SandiCarter3 Hard to say. I've seen some so bad that I'd probably recommend none being better. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:17 MeredithGould |
9:18 | Yes! RT @skenow @SandiCarter3 in most cases, yes - take the site down, put up a simple contact page, redesign and relaunch #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:18 MeredithGould |
9:18 | T1: In the spirit of 1st day of school excitement, pls share something you’d like to learn/do better in your #chsocm role. Go! Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:18 singingcarolyn |
9:18 | PS - I instigate stuff. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:18 skwechter |
9:18 | Wonder if websites are indeed becoming yesteryear's tools, since engagement and feeds are the name of the game #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:18 mbprice44 |
9:18 | T1: In the spirit of 1st day of school excitement, pls share something you’d like to learn/do better in your #chsocm role. Go! Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:18 MeredithGould |
9:18 | @mbprice44 absolutely not! Websites are the hub of all online communications #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:18 skenow |
9:19 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:19 sketchism |
9:19 | @singingcarolyn T1: Learn how to use social media analytics more to my advantage in our church. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:19 jburno |
9:19 | T1: how much, how often, what do people need to see? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:19 SandiCarter3 |
9:19 | @mbprice44 Nope, website needs to be the hub of communications. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:19 MeredithGould |
9:19 | RT @singingcarolyn T1: In the spirit of 1st day of school excitement, share something you’d like to learn/do better in your #chsocm role. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:19 JeffKRoss |
9:20 | T1: I'm trying very hard to share the love -- putting together a team of collaborators. @Garrettdeg is my best team member so far! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:20 azrork |
9:20 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:20 sethhinz |
9:20 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:20 MeredithGould |
9:20 | @mbprice44 #Chsocm IMO Nope. Tho your website could better engage your community with a feed & comments! Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:20 skwechter |
9:20 | RT @MeredithGould @mbprice44 Nope, website needs to be the hub of communications. // what she said #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:20 skenow |
9:20 | @sketchism Welcome! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:20 azrork |
9:20 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:20 therealjonlee |
9:20 | @nealffischer Ooooo, you're foreshadowing my next Q! Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:20 singingcarolyn |
9:21 | RT @jburno @singingcarolyn T1: Learn how to use social media analytics more to my advantage in our church. #chsocm +1 Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:21 nealffischer |
9:21 | Get more smaller churches involved. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:21 skwechter |
9:21 | T1 Hoping clients will follow my counsel with more acceptance & joy! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:21 MeredithGould |
9:21 | @therealjonlee yeah, sprout social is awesome, but since we’re on a budget, I’ve started using sumall.com #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:21 jburno |
9:21 | t1 putting together strategies for engaging community to generate more grassroots content #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:21 sethhinz |
9:21 | @mbprice44 I always say that the website is the file cabinet and SM is the distribution system. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:21 azrork |
9:22 | @mbprice44 I wonder the same thing. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:22 LeistCatalano |
9:22 | @SandiCarter3 Are you making up your own #chsocm topics or following the moderator? I'm getting confused! Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:22 MeredithGould |
9:22 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:22 sethhinz |
9:22 | T1: See a coordinated plan for use of it to connect members, promote ministries and grow as daily expected form of communication #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:22 JeffKRoss |
9:22 | (Are you catching these, you #chsocm bloggers? Ideas for things we'd like to learn more about here...) Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:22 singingcarolyn |
9:22 | @singingcarolyn I'd like to learn how to better educate staff/ministries on proper SM use/best-practices. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:22 therealjonlee |
9:23 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:23 mbprice44 |
9:23 | @JeffKRoss you just said a mouthful #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:23 sethhinz |
9:23 | @singingcarolyn :-) definitely paying attention #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:23 jburno |
9:23 | @therealjonlee it’s awesome, and it’s free! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:23 jburno |
9:23 | T1: Learn how to turn it all off at a reasonable time! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:23 EnsignPierce |
9:24 | @KaraNSlade Starting with strategy reduces the struggle because integration becomes more obvious #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 MeredithGould |
9:24 | @KaraNSlade how so? What do you mean by 'fit together'? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 jburno |
9:24 | t1 get over the fun tactics and start helping folks build better strategies, better brands #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 sethhinz |
9:24 | RT @MeredithGould: @KaraNSlade Starting with strategy reduces the struggle because integration becomes more obvious #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 nealffischer |
9:24 | T1a: I’ve learned so much from this group; in what ways can you help teach your congregation or the #chsocm community this year? Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 singingcarolyn |
9:24 | @azrork @mbprice44 I think you should post unique content on FB, twitter, etc. always linking out to a website is annoying to me #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 LeistCatalano |
9:24 | Hope #chsocm peeps saw this @edstetzer article: "Not Tweeting? Repent! Why ignoring social media is no longer an option for church leaders." Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 JeffKRoss |
9:24 | I would like to more effectively curate our facebook and twitter pages. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 MarleneGil2 |
9:24 | T1: More regularity with my blog. Incorporating some sermon material into it. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 mbprice44 |
9:24 | Would love to keep my eyes open for #chsocm and #PlatformU but Compline and sleep are calling my name. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 nurya |
9:24 | T1 hoping to learn how to connect the dots for other leaders at all levels. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:24 skenow |
9:25 | t1a I'd like to start hosting Saturday morning workshops for fellow members at my church (bi-monthly) :) #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:25 sethhinz |
9:25 | RT T1a: I’ve learned so much from this group; in what ways can you help teach your congregation or the #chsocm community this year? Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:25 MeredithGould |
9:25 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:25 JeffKRoss |
9:25 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:25 jburno |
9:25 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:25 singingcarolyn |
9:25 | @LeistCatalano Agreed. But we find that brevity on SM and offering more info on our website on some topics works well. #chsocm @mbprice44 Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:25 azrork |
9:26 | @LeistCatalano @azrork Agreed. Website material is mostly informative and rarely interactive. #chsocm //forgot the hashtag Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:26 mbprice44 |
9:26 | Hi all, just got in from walk/jpg. Mostly lurking here in DioMo #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:26 mlevans01 |
9:26 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:26 MeredithGould |
9:26 | T1a helping just 1 in my local church would be a start. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:26 skenow |
9:26 | Counts! Where? RT @nealffischer T1a: Well, I have done some presentations/workshop on #chsocm. Does that count? :) Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:26 singingcarolyn |
9:26 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:26 sethhinz |
9:27 | I'd like to share a certain book about The Social Media Gospel with my parish council. #chsocm #babysteps Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:27 reckshow |
9:27 | @mbprice44 That's okay. Website should inform & drive visitors to #chsocm to continue the convo & build community. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:27 MeredithGould |
9:27 | @mlevans01 Spectators welcome here. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:27 singingcarolyn |
9:27 | @LeistCatalano You can. Start putting a hashtag on your city, neighborhood, local issues. I've gotten followers that way. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:27 RevWeb |
9:27 | @singingcarolyn Just got back from the ELCA mission interpreter conference. Trying to assist MI's with spreading their stories. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:27 nealffischer |
9:27 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:27 azrork |
9:28 | @azrork @mbprice44 I find a lot of links to websites fail when I am using twitter on mobile. I like when content is provided here #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:28 LeistCatalano |
9:28 | T1a Activate Jetpack's Publicize on website and thus instigate learning by doing :-) #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:28 skwechter |
9:28 | +1 RT @LeistCatalano T1: I would like to connect with the local community more on twitter #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:28 nealffischer |
9:28 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:28 therealjonlee |
9:29 | @skwechter The best way to learn tech, IMO: by doing! Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:29 singingcarolyn |
9:29 | T1: Would also love to see #chsocm considered part of outreach/mission. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:29 KaraNSlade |
9:29 | T1a Already booked more talks/workshops on my calendar. Hoping to do more of that, getting out and about! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:29 MeredithGould |
9:29 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:29 LeistCatalano |
9:29 | @LeistCatalano I like your point here... I'm trying posting full blogs with photos on FB, link at the end #chsocm just a test Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:29 sethhinz |
9:29 | Hi, joining from NZ, apologies for lateness. #chsocm what are we chattin about? Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:29 smith_shs |
9:29 | RT @KaraNSlade T1: Would also love to see #chsocm considered part of outreach/mission./Because it is! Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:29 singingcarolyn |
9:30 | @MeredithGould We need to find a project... #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:30 nealffischer |
9:30 | T1a Incidentally, I've seen support grow for #chsocm in my church in just the last few months. Fewer skeptics asking "what's the point?" Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:30 azrork |
9:30 | T1: In professional online communities, dedicated community managers are a given. We need those roles in churces, too. volunteer=ok #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:30 JeffKRoss |
9:30 | @smith_shs Goals for the new (school) year so far... Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:30 singingcarolyn |
9:30 | Me too!!! RT @EnsignPierce: T1: Learn how to turn it all off at a reasonable time! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:30 LeistCatalano |
9:30 | @KaraNSlade #chsocm should be integrated into every ministerial effort. Why leadership doesn't get this is beyond me! Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:30 MeredithGould |
9:31 | @nealffischer We do. We've been saying this for a year!!! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:31 MeredithGould |
9:31 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:31 MeredithGould |
9:31 | @singingcarolyn Thanks, are you hosting? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:31 smith_shs |
9:31 | For this next part of the discussion, hat tip to @MeredithGould and her book #SocMGospel...(I can do that, right?) Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:31 singingcarolyn |
9:32 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:32 markalves |
9:32 | @MeredithGould well at least 6 months :) #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:32 nealffischer |
9:32 | @singingcarolyn Fine by me! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:32 MeredithGould |
9:32 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:32 skenow |
9:32 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:32 LeistCatalano |
9:32 | @smith_shs Yes! And welcome. : ) Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:32 singingcarolyn |
9:32 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:32 sethhinz |
9:32 | Chapter 8 of #SocMGospel refers to the Social Technographics Ladder developed by Forrester analysts Li & Bernoff...#chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:32 singingcarolyn |
9:33 | ...Social Technographics classifies folks based on their use of social technology: empowered.forrester.com/ladder2010/... #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:33 singingcarolyn |
9:33 | @MeredithGould Have fun stormin' the castle! I've got a flat head from banging on the door! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:33 EnsignPierce |
9:33 | RT @EnsignPierce Have fun stormin' the castle! I've got a flat head from banging on the door! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:33 skwechter |
9:33 | PreT2: The Ladder: Inactives->Spectators->Joiners->Collectors->Critics->Conversationalists->Creators #chsocm pic.twitter.com/mQ1bBdMDzX Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:33 singingcarolyn |
9:34 | T1: I need to learn and adhere to better self-discipline and time management skills. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:34 RuralChurchVT |
9:34 | Did any of you have a chance to check out the Social Technographics Ladder? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:34 singingcarolyn |
9:35 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:35 SandiCarter3 |
9:35 | @singingcarolyn just had another look - have seen it before #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:35 skenow |
9:35 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:35 sethhinz |
9:35 | Gold Star for @SandiCarter3! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:35 singingcarolyn |
9:35 | Here's the chart on the #chsocm blog: churchsocmed.blogspot.com/2011/09/social… Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:35 MeredithGould |
9:36 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:36 singingcarolyn |
9:36 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:36 singingcarolyn |
9:36 | @singingcarolyn Yes, and I'm curious to know what standard % of those types in avg community are currently #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:36 bfelice |
9:36 | #chsocm Hello all :-) I'm sooooo late - just got in from rehearsal, but wanted to say hello and stalk the feed a bit! Caroline from NOLA Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:36 Conductor222 |
9:37 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:37 skwechter |
9:37 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:37 singingcarolyn |
9:37 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:37 singingcarolyn |
9:37 | our community mostly spectators, some joiners, few conversationalists #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:37 SandiCarter3 |
9:37 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:37 MeredithGould |
9:37 | T2: So, where do you land on the Social Technographics Ladder? How about your congregation and community? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:37 singingcarolyn |
9:38 | @skwechter excellent point. more interested in a generic baseline as a lens to view my own groups with. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:38 bfelice |
9:38 | RT @sethhinz I'm finding 90-9-1 to be more accurate every day en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule… #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:38 singingcarolyn |
9:38 | RT @sethhinz I'm finding 90-9-1 to be more accurate every day en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule… #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:38 nealffischer |
9:38 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:38 bfelice |
9:38 | <hand up> What's the question? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:38 MeredithGould |
9:38 | RT @singingcarolyn T2: So, where do you land on the Social Technographics Ladder? How about your congregation and community? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:38 singingcarolyn |
9:39 | @bfelice @singingcarolyn seems more useful to identify your individual relationships than to categorize all #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:39 skenow |
9:39 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:39 skwechter |
9:40 | T2 I'm still operate on every rung of that ladder! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:40 MeredithGould |
9:40 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:40 singingcarolyn |
9:40 | T2 I'm a creator and conversationalist. We have several convo leaders at my church and a few creators too, lots of spectators #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:40 LeistCatalano |
9:40 | RT @singingcarolyn T2: So, where do you land on the Social Technographics Ladder? How about your congregation and community? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:40 JeffKRoss |
9:40 | T2 I'm a conversationalist. Most folks on SM in my diocese are there or down a rung or 2. Still need to get more ppl engaged. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:40 RevWeb |
9:40 | T2: I feel like a contractor, climbing up and down the ladder regularly. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:40 RuralChurchVT |
9:40 | RT @RuralChurchVT T2: I feel like a contractor, climbing up and down the ladder regularly. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:40 skwechter |
9:40 | RT @MeredithGould T2 I'm still operate on every rung of that ladder! #chsocm/Me too, depending on community. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:40 singingcarolyn |
9:41 | T2: As @MeredithGould will attest, I'm not on the list, #curator. Otherwise, I fit #creator, #conversationalist and #collector #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:41 nealffischer |
9:41 | @singingcarolyn @bfelice majority of the time - conversationalist, creator. Other times, spectator, collector #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:41 skenow |
9:41 | T2 Most client churches are filled with inactives, spectators, & joiners #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:41 MeredithGould |
9:42 | T2:collector, conversationalist and creator #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:42 SandiCarter3 |
9:42 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:42 azrork |
9:42 | @RuralChurchVT Funny! But requires Advil at times. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:42 singingcarolyn |
9:42 | T2 Every rung except inactive, if I look at the diocese, we have mostly FB users who play games, hit like and tell what's for lunch #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:42 EnsignPierce |
9:42 | T2 I'm toward the top. #PleaseCloneMe #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:42 skwechter |
9:43 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:43 MeredithGould |
9:43 | T2 @MeredithGould I sometimes think burnout comes from folks locking themselves onto one rung exclusively #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:43 bfelice |
9:43 | 1 thing I find troubling about the ladder is the linearity. Not representative of reality #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:43 skenow |
9:43 | T2: In rural areas, the use of online technology is limited so we're still a 'pick up the phone & call them' kind of church #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:43 smith_shs |
9:43 | T2 The ladder isn't a hierarchy like Maslow's! It's a typology. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:43 MeredithGould |
9:43 | t2 I spectate a ton in order to become a better conversationalist and creator #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:43 sethhinz |
9:43 | T2: my community: many many joiners #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:43 skwechter |
9:43 | RT @bfelice T2 @MeredithGould I sometimes think burnout comes from folks locking themselves onto one rung exclusively #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:43 singingcarolyn |
9:43 | Agree RT @bfelice T2 @MeredithGould I sometimes think burnout comes from folks locking themselves onto one rung exclusively #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:43 MeredithGould |
9:44 | Ditto -> RT @LeistCatalano: I'm a creator/conversationalist. We have several convo leaders @ church & creators 2, lots of spectators #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:44 azrork |
9:44 | T2 I curate to relax! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:44 MeredithGould |
9:44 | Most satisfying rung? RSS feeds! #chsocm Always looking/reading/curating! Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:44 EnsignPierce |
9:44 | RT @MeredithGould: T2 I curate to relax! #chsocm // pinning, pinning, pinning Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:44 reckshow |
9:44 | @LeistCatalano it's always a little different with youth though, they're creators, always online, doing new things #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:44 smith_shs |
9:44 | RT @EnsignPierce Most satisfying rung? RSS feeds! #chsocm Always looking/reading/curating! //Pinterest, yo Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:44 skwechter |
9:45 | Just keep pinning, just keep pinning...RT @reckshow RT @MeredithGould: T2 I curate to relax! #chsocm // pinning, pinning, pinning Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:45 singingcarolyn |
9:45 | @EnsignPierce a fellow feedarian? feedophile? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:45 bfelice |
9:45 | T2 Remember that joiners will observe conversationalists & perhaps get into that participation #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:45 MeredithGould |
9:45 | RT @smith_shs it's always a little different with youth though, they're creators, always online, doing new things #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:45 skwechter |
9:45 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:45 smith_shs |
9:45 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:45 nealffischer |
9:46 | T2a: What can we do to help folks in our congregations move to greater engagement? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:46 singingcarolyn |
9:46 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:46 EnsignPierce |
9:46 | @singingcarolyn Must do bedtime. Thank you for moderating! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:46 azrork |
9:46 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:46 MeredithGould |
9:46 | t2a TEACH. Model #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:46 skwechter |
9:46 | T2a: What can we do to help folks in our congregations move to greater engagement? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:46 MeredithGould |
9:46 | @smith_shs we have all ages posting video, pictures and other content. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:46 LeistCatalano |
9:46 | t2a: ask more questions #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:46 skwechter |
9:47 | T2a Model what engagement "looks like." #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:47 MeredithGould |
9:47 | @smith_shs it seems to go hand in hand with telling folks how their one way to do things is the only way. #stifling #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:47 bfelice |
9:47 | @azrork Nighty-night to you and yours! Thanks for coming. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:47 singingcarolyn |
9:47 | @EnsignPierce - Really love @feedly. Was hooked on reader. Thank goodness I found the robust, better replacement. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:47 nealffischer |
9:47 | T2: don't see many creators; see more conversationalists; greater numbers at lower rungs #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:47 JeffKRoss |
9:47 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:47 skwechter |
9:47 | t2a ask questions, ask for opinions, give multiple choice, share great user-generated content as an example #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:47 sethhinz |
9:47 | T2a Ask SM users to testify how SM keeps them connected to the community. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:47 RevWeb |
9:48 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:48 MeredithGould |
9:48 | RT @skwechter: t2a TEACH. Model #chsocm Needs repeating. Modeling is gentle and constant. It allows space for new and growth. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:48 bfelice |
9:48 | RT @skwechter t2a TEACH. Model #chsocm//Goes along with tonight's back to school theme... Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:48 singingcarolyn |
9:48 | T2a don't talk about SM, talk about stuff that matters #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:48 skenow |
9:48 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:48 singingcarolyn |
9:48 | RT @MeredithGould T2a Model what engagement "looks like." #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:48 JeffKRoss |
9:48 | T2a: Model, be as consistent as possible and a little prayer doesn't hurt. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:48 nealffischer |
9:48 | RT @nealffischer T2a: Model, be as consistent as possible and a little prayer doesn't hurt. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:48 singingcarolyn |
9:48 | T2a Teach and teach some more. I've been teaching engagement for 2 years...just now sinking in. Okay, off to kids and such! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:48 azrork |
9:49 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:49 singingcarolyn |
9:49 | T2a Share how #chsocm engagement has enriched your faith, your church community life, etc. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:49 MeredithGould |
9:49 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:49 MeredithGould |
9:49 | t2a we really need to do a better job explaining WHY we use Facebook as an organization.. .what value are we offering? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:49 sethhinz |
9:49 | T2a Post printouts of tweets, FB posts or Pinterest pages in the narthex and/or parish hall. Show folks what they're missing. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:49 RevWeb |
9:50 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:50 sethhinz |
9:50 | Connect w/ fellow church communicators at tonight's #chsocm chat at 9 pm ET w/ host @singingcarolyn, who promises no Miley Cyrus talk. KH Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:50 cmsucks |
9:50 | Sounds like some of what we need to do in #chsocm happens completely offline. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:50 singingcarolyn |
9:50 | @EnsignPierce Sorry, to hear that. I've never had a problem with it on my Nexus7, Galaxy Nexus or Chrome. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:50 nealffischer |
9:50 | And in addition to modeling, occasionally step out of the way, do not have to be first, loudest, longest, or like all your own posts #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:50 bfelice |
9:50 | t2a: getting past the privacy fears is hard. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:50 skwechter |
9:50 | T2a: share regularly and publicly success stories of using social media for ministry and growth #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:50 JeffKRoss |
9:50 | @EnsignPierce Wonder why? I've never had that prob on my smartphone, tablet or laptop #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:50 MeredithGould |
9:51 | T2A: I know wonderful people thru #chsocm I wouldn't have met otherwise. Some even came to my ordination. :-) It's been a real gift. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:51 KaraNSlade |
9:51 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:51 MeredithGould |
9:51 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:51 skenow |
9:51 | @KaraNSlade I enjoyed your ordination pics via #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:51 MeredithGould |
9:52 | @skwechter I found that to be an issue 4 or 5 years ago, but it faded quickly and is so now for only a very small % of people #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:52 sowhatfaith |
9:52 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:52 sethhinz |
9:52 | Note to self: Like your own posts without ceasing. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:52 MeredithGould |
9:52 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:52 nealffischer |
9:52 | T2b We seem to be talking a lot about trying to move folks from "inactive" to...any other type. Any specific suggestions? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:52 singingcarolyn |
9:52 | @KaraNSlade That is awesome! I got interested in Gen Con thru #chsocm and later was delegate to our Dio convention! Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:52 Conductor222 |
9:52 | T2a Tweeting a daily reflection for @TodaysReadings & @stcharleschurch keeps me focused on faith. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:52 markalves |
9:53 | @MeredithGould I've never been a fan of watching people have long conversations with themselves. might be a personal peeve. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:53 bfelice |
9:53 | @MeredithGould Maybe it's the number of feeds I'm following? Also, the iOS crashes are on an iPod, Nexus 7 freezes. Don't know why #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:53 EnsignPierce |
9:53 | Since I didn't go to an Episcopal seminary #chsocm has really connected me to the broader Church. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:53 KaraNSlade |
9:53 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:53 skenow |
9:54 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:54 MeredithGould |
9:54 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:54 nealffischer |
9:54 | T2b Your SM Sunday sounded great. I'd recommend that. churchsocmed.blogspot.com/2013/07/case-s… #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:54 RevWeb |
9:55 | @EnsignPierce Maybe it's because you build your own computers! ;-) #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:55 MeredithGould |
9:55 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:55 sethhinz |
9:55 | @nealffischer Hilarious. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:55 MeredithGould |
9:55 | T3: What benefits have you seen with greater social media engagement from your congregation and community? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:55 singingcarolyn |
9:55 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:55 nealffischer |
9:56 | Whoa! only 4 minutes left for T3 #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:56 skenow |
9:56 | RT @singingcarolyn T3: What benefits have you seen with greater social media engagement from your congregation and community? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:56 JeffKRoss |
9:56 | Well, would you look at the time. The fastest hour of the week has once again flown by, and it's time to wrap things up. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:56 singingcarolyn |
9:57 | T3 SM seems to better connect bishop/diocese to parishioners. We can do much better but it's a start. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:57 RevWeb |
9:57 | T3 ppl from around the diocese find they have connections #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:57 skwechter |
9:57 | Sorry about that late T3. (sheepishly) Feel free to cogitate and comment later... #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:57 singingcarolyn |
9:57 | t3 people saying "found you on Facebook" to some of our congregations... means more people are coming through the door. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:57 sethhinz |
9:57 | @singingcarolyn T3 SM connects people the other 6 days of the week #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:57 skenow |
9:58 | Last chance: final tweets of wisdom? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:58 singingcarolyn |
9:58 | T3 Major benefits continue to be from blog work more than SM, but SM reinforces blog, drives web traffic. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:58 EnsignPierce |
9:58 | #chsocm T3 4Sq helped our search result ranking, pics of ch activities now all over, general awareness of events is higher, the cool factor Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:58 Conductor222 |
9:58 | T3 Improved event attendance as #chsocm provides a timely reminder or awareness. Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:58 markalves |
9:58 | T3: we can pick up conversations in person from what was learned online #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:58 JeffKRoss |
9:58 | And we'll conclude with this prayer from Compline: #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:58 singingcarolyn |
9:59 | T3 @mlevans01 how are you feeling these weeks about social media connecting us to the team in Lui? #grateful #chsocm ow.ly/okrzU Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:59 bfelice |
9:59 | Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:59 singingcarolyn |
9:59 | @Conductor222 R you a city church using 4Sq? #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:59 skwechter |
9:59 | The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on churchsocmed.blogspot.com within a few hours. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:59 singingcarolyn |
9:59 | Subscribe to our blog & you’ll receive transcripts and happiness automagically. churchsocmed.blogspot.com. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:59 singingcarolyn |
9:59 | T-Wisdom ... Make a schedule, carve out a special 30-60 min for curation/creation each day.. engage as you can from there #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 9:59 sethhinz |
10:00 | Aaaand, it’s 10pm. Thanks to all for your contributions and insights! Join us again, next Tuesday @9pmET. Bring a friend! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:00 singingcarolyn |
10:00 | RT @singingcarolyn Subscribe to our blog & you’ll receive transcripts and happiness automagically. churchsocmed.blogspot.com. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:00 RevWeb |
10:00 | @skwechter #chsocm Nope, my personal acct, but I noticed a diff a month after I began checking in and adding pictures! Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:00 Conductor222 |
10:00 | T3: Cultivating a spirit of spontaneous hospitality. #TableChurch #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:00 RuralChurchVT |
10:00 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:00 singingcarolyn |
10:01 | Thanks to @singingcarolyn for hosting tonight! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:01 sethhinz |
10:01 | Thank you @singingcarolyn!! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:01 MeredithGould |
10:01 | @singingcarolyn #chsocm Thank you for moderating! :-) Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:01 Conductor222 |
10:01 | If you're sending folks in your household off to school (maybe you?), best wishes for a successful year! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:01 singingcarolyn |
10:01 | #chsocm Nice virtually seeing all of y'all! :-) Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:01 Conductor222 |
10:01 | Thank you @singingcarolyn for a thought provoking yet fast paced conversation...much appreciated! #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:01 bfelice |
10:02 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:02 singingcarolyn |
10:02 | @bfelice Thanks for your contributions! Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:02 singingcarolyn |
10:02 | @singingcarolyn nice job moderating the #chsocm chat tonight! Thank you! Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:02 skenow |
10:02 | @MeredithGould You're welcome! Thanks, as always, for your contributions, known and unknown. Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:02 singingcarolyn |
10:03 | @sethhinz Thanks for coming along and being a part of the conversation. Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:03 singingcarolyn |
10:03 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:03 MeredithGould |
10:03 | Thanks for a great #chsocm chat @singingcarolyn ! Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:03 LeistCatalano |
10:03 | @LeistCatalano Always great having you along! Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:03 singingcarolyn |
10:03 | @JeffKRoss Thanks for joining in! Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:03 singingcarolyn |
10:04 | @skenow Thanks for your contributions! Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:04 singingcarolyn |
10:04 | Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:04 mlevans01 |
10:04 | Final Thought: "A social campaign should ask questions that cause consumers to stop, reflect and respond." -Debbie Hemley #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:04 nealffischer |
10:05 | @singingcarolyn Thanks for the great chat this week. Was good to be able to be here this week. #chsocm Tuesday August 27, 2013 10:05 nealffischer |
The topics:
T1: In the spirit of 1st day of school excitement, please share something you’d like to learn/do better in your #chsocm role this "year."
T1a: I’ve learned so much from this group; in what ways can you help teach your congregation or the #chsocm community this year?
For this next discussion, hat tip to @MeredithGould and her book #SocMGospel, Chapter 8 of #SocMGospel refers to the Social Technographics Ladder developed by Forrester analysts Li & Bernoff. Social Technographics classifies folks based on their use of social technology: http://empowered.forrester. com/ladder2010/
T2: So, where do you land on the Social Technographics Ladder? How about your congregation and community?
T2a: What can we do to help our congregations move to greater engagement?
T3: What benefits have you seen with greater social media engagement from your congregation and community?
Tonight's chat moderated by Carolyn Clement (@singingcarolyn).
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