Tuesday, November 13, 2012

#ChSocM Transcript: 11/13/12 | Church Social Media & Conferences/Workshops/Trainings

This week we chatted about realities and hopes 
for church social media conferences, workshops, and trainings.

 #ChSocM Tweetchat (11/13/12)(11/13/2012) 
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Welcome to our weekly church social media chat, first week in a long time w/o election-related interference! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:01 chsocm
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If this is your first time joining us, don’t even try to follow every tweet. You can always review the transcript. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:01 chsocm
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RT @chsocm: Welcome to our weekly church social media chat, first week in a long time w/o election-related interference! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:01 RevWeb
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If you’re returning, welcome. If you tend toward non-participant observation, please consider some active participation tonight. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:02 chsocm
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As always, we start with prayer... #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:03 chsocm
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Whoa! 9 PM already. Apologies in advance for a deluge of #GetRealChat and #ChSocM tweets.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:03 paulsteinbrueck
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Actually, we're going to wait until the front pews fill up. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:04 chsocm
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#chsocm Woops need the right Hash tag and I am in the front pew
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:04 RevJCMitchell
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Kidding. Let us pray... #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:04 chsocm
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Ditto! Except it's 6PM here. RT @paulsteinbrueck: Whoa! 9 PM already. Apologies for a deluge of #GetRealChat and #ChSocM tweets.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:04 EdConexion
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@chsocm I'll sit in the front pew tonight #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:04 skenow
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Gracious God, as we come together, grant us the grace to be united in faith and good will in our service to you. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:04 chsocm
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@chsocm Oh, fine. *moving up* #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:05 jillmills11
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RT @chsocm: Actually, were going to wait until the front pews fill up. // Ha! No one ever sits in the front pew. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:05 rev_david
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We pray for unity and integrity in all our communications, across all media & across denominations. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:05 chsocm
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May the Holy Spirit to inspire our conversations & guide us to use social media wisely & well. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:05 chsocm
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RT @chsocm: We pray for unity and integrity in all our communications, across all media & across denominations. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:05 rev_david
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RT @chsocm: We pray for unity and integrity in all our communications, across all media & across denominations. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:06 rampracer
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At this time we continue praying for those who have been disrupted & devastated by #Sandy. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:06 chsocm
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Lots of tweets; for the next hour I am on the #chsocm chat about social media & ministry. Join us!
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:06 rev_david
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For all who are responding to those in need, we give thanks. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:06 chsocm
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:07 paulsteinbrueck
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We give thanks for every opportunity to build community & reveal your presence online as well as face-to-face. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:07 chsocm
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RT @paulsteinbrueck: @rev_david Front row = "spray zone" #chsocm // Every church should label them that!
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:07 rev_david
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All this we pray in the name you said you would never refuse… #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:07 chsocm
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Was holyfamilyny - rejoined as my personal account so as not to put posts on our church website! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:07 curtince
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:07 chsocm
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@paulsteinbrueck I've got my umbrella, toast and newspaper #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:07 skenow
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RT @chsocm: For all who are responding to those in need, we give thanks. #chsocm // Amen!
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:08 rev_david
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:08 chsocm
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RT @chsocm: At this time we continue praying for those who have been disrupted & devastated by #Sandy. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:08 rampracer
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@rev_david @paulsteinbrueck //as a constant visitor at churches, this is why I don't sit in the front row. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:08 Neeterduck
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:08 rampracer
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Hubby just plating dinner now, #chsocm folks. With love from N. TX!
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:09 SmilingKIJ
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Next up: self-introductions. Pls tell us your church affiliation, how you use social media & anything else you’d like folks to know. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:09 chsocm
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:10 rev_david
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RT @rev_david: RT @chsocm: We pray for unity and integrity in all our communications, across all media & across denominations. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:10 EMjennielle
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Just a drop by from #CCAB #Episcopal Communications and IT meeting in STL. Have a great chat. Blessings to all! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:10 RevWeb
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And while you're doing that, a dramatic reading/tweeting of The Fine Print: #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:10 chsocm
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We’ll assume tweets during this chat are yours & do not represent your church or organization #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:10 chsocm
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#ChSocM DOC Open Gathering Plant in the Bellevue WA area, just launched our fb page and haveing C. Harris work on the website
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:11 RevJCMitchell
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Remember we’re here to share with & support one another. Use DM or email to pitch products/services. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:11 chsocm
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#chsocm. Jill from Ann Arbor MI; newly retired, last year seminarian, short-term CPE intern, former engineer, lifelong gadget geek
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:11 jillmills11
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From Church of the Holy Family in Endwell, NY. Just got put in charge of overall web presence and social media. Was volunteer-run. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:11 curtince
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Cru in Orlando. Non-denominational. Using digital to launch spiritual movements. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:11 5Watts
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Glad to be hanging out with the #ChSocM folks tonight! Already learned a few things about the front row...
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:11 ROAR_pro
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@chsocm Actually my tweets represent the Pope. ;) #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:12 paulsteinbrueck
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Moderating 2nite: @MeredithGould, author, digital strategist & communications consultant, committed to ecumenism. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:12 chsocm
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:12 RevJCMitchell
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blog at wheelie catholic on issues of #faith and #disability and currently posting #Sandy resources for those in need #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:12 rampracer
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:12 rev_david
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@curtince Great to have you with us! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:12 rev_david
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:12 rev_david
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Note how we have great greeters! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:13 chsocm
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:13 MeredithGould
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Between the #ccab tweets and the #chsocm tweets, my feed is a little crazy. Sadly, I can neither bi-locate nor split my attention for both.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:14 theologybird
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Always fun to watch the dialogue here! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:14 NilsSmith
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Keep the self-intros going while more is revealed about tonight's chat. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:14 chsocm
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Tonight we’ll be chatting about workshops, conferences, & trainings relative to content & conversation. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:14 chsocm
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Some observations to provide context: #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:15 chsocm
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@chsocm Founder/CEO of @OurChurchDotCom, blogger, elder of a CMA church in Clearwater, FL #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:15 paulsteinbrueck
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:15 RevJCMitchell
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RT @RevJCMitchell: @rev_david #ChSocM soy bacon too? // An abomination.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:15 rev_david
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Until recently, conversations re: social media were usually limited to 1or 2 short workshops embedded in a conference agenda. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:15 chsocm
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Grandpa. Geek. Gardener. Lutheran. Posts at @ChristianWebRes, too. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:16 skenow
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#chsocm Erin, devotional writer at God-the-Healer.com, Mom to 4 small dogs, @LutherSeminary Grad - MA NT, attending SBL/AAR this weekend
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:16 GodtheHealerDev
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@chsocm #ChSocM and seem to be just getting on the web
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:16 RevJCMitchell
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Those working with digital tools generally had to go to secular organizations for learn the latest & greatest techniques & tips. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:16 chsocm
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@chsocm iMinistry Conference was fantastic and Echo also in Dallas area is a great conference #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:16 NilsSmith
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RT @chsocm: Some observations to provide context: #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:16 rev_david
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Seeing Eye Person. Social Media Geek. Sing Soprano. Fluent in ASL. Luther Sem Grad. Vocationally Lost. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:16 Neeterduck
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RT @chsocm: Until recently, conversations re: social media were usually limited to 1or 2 short workshops embedded in conf. agenda. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:17 rev_david
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Before last year, the #chsocm hashtag didn’t even exist. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:17 chsocm
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Hello friends, I'm chatting from NC, work in all things catholic communications. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:17 AnjWiley
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Mindi. Part time pastor of an ABC church in Seattle area & retreat leader/church consultant/writer #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:17 RevMindi
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:17 chsocm
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:17 rev_david
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:18 rev_david
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@chsocm sounds good, I'll follow along #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:18 NilsSmith
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And now? This past month alone, several from this community have led training for clergy & lay leadership across denominations… #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:18 chsocm
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This past weekend, tagged tweets from #luthercml provided opportunities to dive into a theology of #chsocm #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:18 chsocm
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:19 RevMindi
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Blogs about church tech are emerging at an unprecedented rate. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:19 chsocm
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#chsocm Laura from Boston, UCC pastor- leading a workshop for American Baptist staff this wk to their develop SM plan- help welcome!
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:19 RevEverett
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Church tech/geeky conferences are no longer all that difficult to find. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:19 chsocm
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Blogger & social media "person" for @ROAR_pro .. whats the best title for a person that does social media as a job? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:19 SummerNelson
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And now, on to the topics. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:20 chsocm
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:20 GodtheHealerDev
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:20 RevJCMitchell
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T1: What do you value most about #chsocm conferences/workshops you’ve attended IRL/online? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:20 chsocm
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RT @chsocm: Church tech/geeky conferences are no longer all that difficult to find. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:21 mirgray
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Dawn: Lutheran Life Coach. Based in NYC but serving lay and clergy leaders throughout the USA through the magic of technology. #chsocm intro
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:21 UrbanNomadUSA
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@RevEverett Awesome! Let's connect later and see if I can help. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:21 rev_david
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RT @chsocm: T1: What do you value most about #chsocm conferences/workshops you’ve attended IRL/online? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:21 rev_david
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RT @chsocm: T1: What do you value most about #chsocm conferences/workshops you’ve attended IRL/online? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:21 rampracer
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RT @chsocm: T1: What do you value most about #chsocm conferences/workshops you’ve attended IRL/online? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:21 MeredithGould
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@chsocm T1: The chance to meet ppl IRL for the first time that I've only known online up until then. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:21 paulsteinbrueck
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:22 RevEverett
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#ChSocM I have found the online discussion helpful as I realize I am not the only one floundering and yet inspired by our new type of commun
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:22 RevJCMitchell
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T1: Practical ideas and tools I can implement as is or tweak are always a plus! #ChSocM
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:22 mlstarner
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T1: Best Practices and new ideas. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:22 Neeterduck
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RT @mlstarner: T1: Practical ideas and tools I can implement as is or tweak are always a plus! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:22 rev_david
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@MeredithGould @chsocm The willingness of IRL participants to share what they are hearing / thinking via tweets for the rest of us #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:23 jillmills11
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T1: The ability to partner with or assist others who are just starting out. I couldn't help them if someone hadn't first helped me! #ChSocM
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:23 mlstarner
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@chsocm The chance to meet new people. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:23 jeremysarber
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RT @Neeterduck: T1: Best Practices and new ideas. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:23 rampracer
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T1 - I have enjoyed discussion of the theory/theology of digital ministry. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:24 rev_david
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MT @mlstarner: T1: The ability to partner with others who are starting out. I couldnt help them if someone hadnt first helped me! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:24 rev_david
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T1a: What, if any, shifts have you noticed in content and conversation? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:24 chsocm
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T1 - I've noticed participants are most interested in the hands-on, how-to material. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:25 rev_david
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#chsocm T1a: I gave workshops in social media 5 years ago, and participants didn't know what I was talking about. Now, it's ubiquitous.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:26 Neeterduck
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T1a conversation now includes more sophisticated uses of social media with more platforms involved and/or a switch of platforms #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:26 rampracer
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T1a: It used to focus on convincing people of its effectiveness. People seem to understand that now - or at least they should! #ChSocM
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:26 mlstarner
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T1 face-to-face allows me to expand their tweets into a fuller context and learn their conversation style #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:26 skenow
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@Neeterduck Hey, I wrote a book about church communications in 2008 that is only now getting recognized! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:26 MeredithGould
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RT @chsocm: T1a: What, if any, shifts have you noticed in content and conversation? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:27 MeredithGould
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#chsocm T1: I feel like a slacker because I have not been to one yet.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:27 GodtheHealerDev
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@rev_david what do feel most people need the most help with? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:27 kylemcclain
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@GodtheHealerDev Nah, not a slacker. You can attend virtually by following hashtags #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:28 chsocm
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@kylemcclain Hang on! We're getting there! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:28 chsocm
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@chsocm Shifts? The churches I've been working with are just now getting online. They're most interested in some of basics. #ChSocM
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:28 jeremysarber
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T1a: I find lots of pastoral need to address anxiety and guilt about not being up to date. Embarrassment. Sometimes generational? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:28 RevEverett
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@chsocm T1a the shift has been from 'what is it?' to 'how can I use it?' #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:28 skenow
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RT @chsocm: @kylemcclain Hang on! Were getting there! // Sitting on my hands. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:28 rev_david
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@chsocm I'm starting to wonder if the fact that only ~10% of an orgs FB "likers" see their posts is killing effectiveness of #ChSocM
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:29 paulsteinbrueck
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T2: Flipping that around, what do you wish conference/workshop organizers would delete from the agenda? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:29 chsocm
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RT @chsocm: T2: Flipping that around, what do you wish conference/workshop organizers would delete from the agenda? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:29 MeredithGould
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:29 jeremysarber
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@rev_david Me too, my people seem to be more interested in "how" more than "why" right now. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:29 AnjWiley
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@GodtheHealerDev I have not either. But learning so much, even following out here! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:29 jillmills11
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@paulsteinbrueck That stat isn't quite right. My pages see around 30%. Not that different than before. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:30 rev_david
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@UrbanNomadUSA I think the why has changed to a theological why. #chsocm.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:30 Neeterduck
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RT @chsocm: T2: Flipping that around, what do you wish conference/workshop organizers would delete from the agenda? // yes! Tell us! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:30 rev_david
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@paulsteinbrueck I found a way around that. It requires your "fans" to add you to an Interest list. If you can get them to, that is. #ChSocM
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:31 jeremysarber
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@Neeterduck @UrbanNomadUSA YES! A theological why vs. a previous "why bother with #chsocm..."
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:32 RevEverett
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:32 jeremysarber
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:32 RevJCMitchell
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What? You'd keep everything on the agenda that currently automatically gets put on it? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:32 chsocm
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I find that any conference that doesnt give specifics and speaks in generals loses their audience quickly, especially #churchtech & #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:33 jasoncaston
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:33 paulsteinbrueck
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@AnjWiley @rev_david I don't know we still run in to a lot of people who don't know why.. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:33 kylemcclain
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@chsocm T2: Less cookie-cutter, everyone-does-it-this-way strategies. #ChSocM
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:33 jeremysarber
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@jeremysarber I've heard that too. Will look into it more, but like you said... if you can get them to. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:33 paulsteinbrueck
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@chsocm Most presentations I've been to, I presented. So ... I think the presenter did a great job! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:34 rev_david
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Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:34 chsocm
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@kylemcclain @AnjWiley Yes, I see that, too. But they are more interested in learning how, even if they aren't sure why. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:34 rev_david
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@jasoncaston Yes. Same with any kind of teaching or church leadership. Too vague. #ChSocM
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:34 jeremysarber
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I wish they would stop inviting speakers who don't use #chsocm for engagement. Those who only broadcast.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:34 mirgray2
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T3: If you were designing a one-day conference about church social media, what would it include? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:35 chsocm
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RT @VLMLab: #chsocm T2: Wrestle with two audiences in same room. Those late to party and need the why while others need the how. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:35 rev_david
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RT @mirgray2: I wish they would stop inviting speakers who don't use #chsocm for engagement. Those who only broadcast.//Makes ME nuts
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:35 MeredithGould
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I heard a vicious rumor that an area clergy mtg with #chsocm focus was done without computers!
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:35 RevEverett
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@VLMLab That is so hard! Split my last workshop into two groups for that reason. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:35 rev_david
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RT @chsocm: T3: If you were designing a one-day conference about church social media, what would it include? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:35 rampracer
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@chsocm T2 remove anything and everything after the 2nd bullet point. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:35 skenow
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RT @RevEverett: I heard a vicious rumor that an area clergy mtg with #chsocm focus was done without computers!//Crazy
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:35 MeredithGould
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#CHSOCM T3 Content and reach over logistics
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:35 RevJCMitchell
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RT @chsocm: T3: If you were designing a one-day conference about church social media, what would it include? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:36 MeredithGould
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MT @mirgray2: I wish they would stop inviting speakers who dont use #chsocm for engagement. // Sorry, I'll try to do better ;) #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:36 rev_david
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@RevJCMitchell What do you mean by "logistics"? The "how to" of getting started with --> #CHSOCM?
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:36 chsocm
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@RevEverett @Neeterduck The shift from "why bother" to a theological "why" is huge. Gives importance to #chsocm.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:37 UrbanNomadUSA
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RT @UrbanNomadUSA: @RevEverett @Neeterduck The shift from "why bother" to a theological "why" is huge. Gives importance to #chsocm.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:37 MeredithGould
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@chsocm T3: My ideal 1 day #chsocm conference would include a) case-studies, b) how-to's, c) happy hour. :) #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:37 paulsteinbrueck
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My breakdown of the last set of workshops I have led: #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:37 rev_david
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1) Theology: John 1 - Christian faith is all about community and communication. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:38 rev_david
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T3: 1 day conf would be visual social media (instagram, pinterest, fb timeline, twitter), visual content, google hangouts and #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:38 jasoncaston
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2) History 1: Christians as communication innovators (codex, printing press) #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:38 rev_david
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@chsocm T2: went to a "Intro to 21st Century Church" at last regional gathering, no mention of social media. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:38 RevMindi
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RT @paulsteinbrueck: @chsocm T3: My ideal 1 day #chsocm conference would include c) happy hour.// Shouldn't that be all conferences?#chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:38 Neeterduck
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@chsocm #ChSOCM if only 1 day I can figure out how to use FB web twit, etc, but I want to work on what to say, & who I can reach.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:38 RevJCMitchell
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@MeredithGould @chsocm A portion of "unco" time for attendees to raise up issues for group discussion. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:38 jillmills11
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T3: and... church posting strategies, what to post, when to post, how to build audiences and pay attn to mobile social media #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:38 jasoncaston
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4) Social media platforms: Quick overviews and stats on the major players #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:38 rev_david
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T3 I'm big on providing a short course about what constitutes "strategy" & sociological factors that affect adoption & engagement #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:39 MeredithGould
9:39
#CHSOCM T3: 1. Jesus 2. *By All Means Possible* 3. Current Means Possible 4. Live working groups to solve/develop needed tools.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:39 VLMLab
9:39
@chsocm T3: I would love to hear more from success stories and how thy did it as opposed to endless "experts". #ChSocM
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:39 jeremysarber
9:39
5) Biggest chunk of time devoted to hands on workshopping. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:39 rev_david
9:39
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:39 RevJCMitchell
9:40
1. Don't boil ocean talk. 2. Social media pastoral ethics. 3. Recovering from #chsocm oopsies. 4. Humour and social media discussion.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:40 mirgray2
9:40
Quick show of virtual hands: Who has presented more than one workshop/training re:--> #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:40 chsocm
9:40
@Neeterduck Yes, I'd say so. Unless, you're Baptist. ;) #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:40 paulsteinbrueck
9:41
@AnjWiley You'd probably add a Fun Run...that I'd ditch out of #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:41 MeredithGould
9:41
RT @chsocm: Quick show of virtual hands: Who has presented more than one workshop/training // *hand up* #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:41 rev_david
9:41
@jeremysarber I would love to hear more success stories as opposed to endless "experts". #ChSocM //Yes! Stories are more powerful teachers.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:41 UrbanNomadUSA
9:41
@paulsteinbrueck @Neeterduck #CHSOCM do not type peeps, just texting with Baptist Minister leading Pub Theology right now.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:41 RevJCMitchell
9:42
#ChSocM T3: also focus on stories from around world. Broader exposure to common digital channels
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:42 VLMLab
9:42
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:42 MeredithGould
9:42
@rev_david I don't that word "engagement" means what you think it means. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:42 mirgray2
9:42
RT @chsocm: Quick show of virtual hands: Who has presented more than one workshop/training re:--> #chsocm --->Pick me!
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:42 Neeterduck
9:42
Lots of good posts and ideas for social media workshops, right here, right now -> #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:42 skenow
9:42
T3a: Recognizing we’ll always to provide basic, introductory training, which more advanced conversations do we need to be having? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:42 chsocm
9:42
Here // RT @chsocm: Quick show of virtual hands: Who has presented more than one workshop/training re:--> #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:42 VLMLab
9:42
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:42 mlstarner
9:42
#chsocm T3: I live in the senior citizen capital (central FL), I would have start by introduce Facebook, Twitter, etc and giving hands on.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:42 GodtheHealerDev
9:43
@chsocm I offered to lead a social media workshop at next regional gathering since it was not offered. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:43 RevMindi
9:43
@RevJCMitchell I sense an impending excommunication. ;) #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:43 paulsteinbrueck
9:43
@rev_david @chsocm Me! I start workshops asking what people read first this am and on what, est diff btwn broadcast & social media #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:43 RevEverett
9:43
RT @chsocm: T3a: Recognizing we’ll always haveto provideintroductory training, which more advanced convos do we need to be having? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:43 MeredithGould
9:43
@paulsteinbrueck @RevJCMitchell you just don't know the right kind of baptists. This Baptist goes to happy hour! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:43 RevMindi
9:43
@RevWeb That was consistently my approach. Inviting followers to think through a particular scripture lens/value. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:43 ThePeacePastor
9:44
RT @chsocm: Quick show of virtual hands: Who has presented more than one workshop/training re:--> #chsocm ->hand up
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:44 AnjWiley
9:44
RT @VLMLab: #ChSocM T3: also focus on stories from around world. Broader exposure to common digital channels
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:44 rampracer
9:44
@jeremysarber agreed, success stories are a great teaching tool. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:44 SummerNelson
9:45
@GodtheHealerDev #chsocm T3: I would have start by introducing Facebook. // Wonderful! Meet them where they're at, just like other ministry!
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:45 UrbanNomadUSA
9:45
Presenters/trainers: Tell us which gaps in knowledge or odd 'tudes you most frequently encounter #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:45 chsocm
9:45
t3a - I think we need to be more intentional about talking about the theology that undergirds our ministry via #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:45 rev_david
9:45
@chsocm T3a: I've done one online webinar & one church communications conf session. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:45 paulsteinbrueck
9:45
@AnjWiley @chsocm Never been anywhere that one has been offered. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:45 ThePeacePastor
9:46
@RevJCMitchell aren't you considering using Skype for Bible Study? Might be a good workshop topic sometime. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:46 RevMindi
9:46
Meta-level observation: So cool to see how we all approach workshop design. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:46 chsocm
9:47
T3b: Are there any conversations about church social media we no longer need to be having? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:47 chsocm
9:47
@RevMindi #CHSOCM acutally Google Hangout, One day a week we gather and the other days, we gather "after the kids go to bed"
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:47 RevJCMitchell
9:47
RT @chsocm: T3b: Are there any conversations about church social media we no longer need to be having? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:47 MeredithGould
9:47
@AnjWiley @MeredithGould: Fun Run, Workshop, Happy Hour. I'm in. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:47 Neeterduck
9:48
@chsocm They know how to use Facebook for the most part and that it's a great tool for ministry. They don't always know why. #ChSocM
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:48 mlstarner
9:48
t3a-1 day conf would be on helping worshipers use social media to tell their faith stories. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:48 CGudgerRaines
9:48
@problogger Hi Darren. A few weeks back at this time I ran into you in #ChSocM. Now I run into you in #getrealchat :) #getrealchat
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:48 paulsteinbrueck
9:48
That digital isn't personal, lower degree of community // Presenters/trainers: gaps in knowledge #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:48 VLMLab
9:48
@mirgray2 I just googled, "Don't boil the ocean" #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:48 AnjWiley
9:48
Is there such a thing as a #chsocm audit, or eval? I'd love an expert's evaluation of my social media and blogging, etc... @chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:48 ThePeacePastor
9:49
Hand UP!!! RT @chsocm: Quick show of virtual hands: Who has presented more than one workshop/training re:--> #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:49 jasoncaston
9:49
@ThePeacePastor Yes, I routinely recommend (and do) church communications audits that include social media. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:49 MeredithGould
9:50
What theology undergirds your ministry via #chsocm ? @MeredithGould @rev_david
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:50 ThePeacePastor
9:50
@chsocm I'm not quite sure why "buttonology" is what people need. Can't they get that elsewhere? Youtube? Local teen? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:50 mirgray2
9:50
RT @chsocm: T3b: Any conversations about church social media we no longer need to be having? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:50 MeredithGould
9:50
@chsocm T3b: Convo we don't need to have... Is MySpace safe? j.mp/hOc388 Yet I still get new comments. :) #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:50 paulsteinbrueck
9:50
@ThePeacePastor Will respond after the chat, since I'm attempting to moderate! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:50 MeredithGould
9:50
I'd love to see more #chsocm thinking/teaching on shift in authority in social media. Title of bishop/rev/exec.dir doesn't guarantee cred
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:50 RevEverett
9:51
@ThePeacePastor: Is there a #chsocm audit, or eval? // Working on one that is for country level. Assesses Web/Social/Hybrid activity
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:51 VLMLab
9:51
@MeredithGould Would be interested in hearing more about that! Looking for a next level... #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:51 ThePeacePastor
9:51
T3c: Which conversations about church social media do you WISH we no longer needed to have?!? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:51 chsocm
9:51
@ThePeacePastor I place an understanding of john 1 at the center of my theology of communications. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:51 rev_david
9:52
RT @chsocm: T3c: Which conversations about church social media do you WISH we no longer needed to have?!? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:52 rev_david
9:52
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:52 rev_david
9:52
@AnjWiley Sorry, it is a bit jargony. But self-care, burnout prevention are important. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:52 mirgray2
9:52
@VLMLab @ThePeacePastor yep- something other than Klout- but highlight excellence in #chsocm?! that'd be great!
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:52 RevEverett
9:52
T3b: SHOULD we be using social media? I think the answer is "YES!" #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:52 JustinWise
9:52
@chsocm T3c "Why do we need to use social media?" <<--roll my eyes at that question every time I hear it. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:52 RevMindi
9:52
T3a WISH we could stop having the "why should we bother with #chsocm" convo.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:52 MeredithGould
9:53
T3c - "People have said hurtful/harmful things on social media, so we shouldn't use it" #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:53 rev_david
9:53
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:53 RevMindi
9:53
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:53 MeredithGould
9:53
T3c that churches are not just buildings #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:53 rampracer
9:53
Agreed! Social media never leaves you like "the office" did in previous generations. Burnout is inevitable. #chsocm @mirgray2 @AnjWiley
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:53 ThePeacePastor
9:53
T3c - "But 'they' are trying to steal my personal information!" #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:53 rev_david
9:54
@rev_david just about to say the same thing! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:54 RevMindi
9:54
T3c "The Internet is dangerous." #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:54 MeredithGould
9:54
This is just me being cranky rather than acting pastorally, but I'ma bout done w/ ?: "how do you find time? I'm too busy/impt for #chsocm!"
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:54 RevEverett
9:54
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:54 JustinWise
9:54
@chsocm T3c: Wish we didn't have to have the "Is #chsocm necessary/worth the time?" convo. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:54 paulsteinbrueck
9:54
@RevEverett @ThePeacePastor Not Klout but have that idea too. Help people see engagement and learn to take next intentional step. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:54 VLMLab
9:54
T3c "You can have authentic relationships via social media." #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:54 MeredithGould
9:55
T3c: "How do we create a Facebook page? Is that the same as a website?" #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:55 JustinWise
9:55
@chsocm #chsocm - the question. What is social media?
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:55 pastordj
9:55
@chsocm T3c: Also wish we didn't have to have the "What if someone posts something bad about us?" convo. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:55 paulsteinbrueck
9:55
Iinteresting. I suppose I'm camped in Acts 17, speaking the language of the people, Translation. #chsocm theology @rev_david
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:55 ThePeacePastor
9:55
T3: "But what if people don't like us?" #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:55 mirgray2
9:55
@MeredithGould WISH we'd stop having the "why should we bother with #chsocm" convo. //And Twitter isn't just about what I had for breakfast.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:55 UrbanNomadUSA
9:55
T3c I oft. (mis?) quote SarcasticLuther post on @NewMediaAtUnion that church w/o FB page now is like not having a door. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:55 RevEverett
9:55
@paulsteinbrueck people can always write in bad letters to the editor of the local paper, which happened @ 1st church I worked at. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:55 RevMindi
9:56
T3c: I would love it if we stopped using the term "social media" altogether. Prefer "real-time" media per @dmscott #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:56 JustinWise
9:56
@ThePeacePastor I think there's an interesting theological angle to pursue there, too. Just not what I've focused on. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:56 rev_david
9:56
MT @RevEverett: This is just me being cranky rather than acting pastorally, but I'ma bout done w/ ?: "how do you find time? ... #chsocm!"
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:56 mirgray2
9:56
Well, isn't T3c just a crowd pleaser! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:56 chsocm
9:56
RT @JustinWise: T3c: "How do we create a Facebook page? Is that the same as a website?" #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:56 jesseorndorff
9:56
@paulsteinbrueck T3c And then we should get rid of church parking lots. Better for enviro and no one says anything bad ever again! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:56 RevEverett
9:57
#chsocm T3c: Be careful what you put online. <daily conversations with the older generation>
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:57 GodtheHealerDev
9:57
#chsocm Wish I could get beyond this question: *Can you help me with my Power Point?*
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:57 VLMLab
9:57
T3c The conversation with church leadership about why #chsocm is a hobby, and not a ministry. "On your own time." @chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:57 ThePeacePastor
9:57
Coming up on the hour, folks. Last call for words of wisdom. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:57 chsocm
9:57
@chsocm T3c why we should use it and not be afraid of something we can't control #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:57 Stevefogg
9:57
@RevEverett Exactly. And just b/c your not there doesn't mean the convos don't happen. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:57 paulsteinbrueck
9:58
@ThePeacePastor The "hobby" complaint is cringe-worthy #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:58 MeredithGould
9:58
t3c - "Social media is just people oversharing about their lives." #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:58 rev_david
9:58
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:58 JustinWise
9:58
T3c: "Our senior pastor won't let us use social media for the church." #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:58 JustinWise
9:58
Closing wisdom? Get out there and teach. Share your knowledge. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:58 rev_david
9:59
RT @rev_david: Closing wisdom? Get out there and teach. Share your knowledge. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:59 RevJCMitchell
9:59
#chsocm Closing wisdom: communicating church and faith is a ministry!
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:59 MeredithGould
9:59
Don't worry that you aren't an expert. NO ONE is. Go learn alongside the people you are teaching. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:59 rev_david
9:59
Coming up on the hour, we conclude with this prayer from Compline: #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:59 chsocm
9:59
TC3: Your social media isn't about you (pastor) it's about relationships. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 9:59 Stevefogg
10:00
Keep watch, dear Lord, with those who work or watch or weep this night & give your angels charge over those who sleep. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:00 chsocm
10:00
I tell people your already have a presence on social media, the only choice you have to make is if your going to have a say in it. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:00 kylemcclain
10:00
T3c, The conversation about paying for smart phone out of the church budget. Oh wait, haven't actually even had that conco. #chsocm @chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:00 ThePeacePastor
10:00
With hands over ears: "La La La La La..." can't take anymore T3c! Thanks @MeredithGould for the great chat! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:00 AnjWiley
10:00
The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on churchsocmed.blogspot.com within a few hours. #chsocm #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:00 chsocm
10:00
#chsocm My audience for social media is people not in the church. My best teachers about social media is people not in the church.
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:00 CCCathedralSTL
10:00
I often do dialogue sermons or ask questions in my preaching. To prep peeps I post my questions on our FB page earlier in the week. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:00 RevMindi
10:00
Closing wisdom: learn from others. It's not a zero-sum game! Ok to share, not compete. Be human. don't use your preacher voice #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:00 RevEverett
10:01
If you want to get the transcript delivered automagically, subscribe to churchsocmed.blogspot.com #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:01 chsocm
10:01
I just watched the convo tonight, but for final thoughts: Honesty, openness, and transparency are what #chsocm is about. Focus on the people
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:01 jesseorndorff
10:01
We’re at the hour. Thanks to all for your contributions & insights. Join us again, next Tuesday @9pm EDT. #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:01 chsocm
10:01
Yesssss RT @kylemcclain: you already have a presence on social media, the choice you have to make is if ur going to have a say in it #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:01 jasoncaston
10:01
The #chsocm tweetchat is formally over for this evening, but anyone is welcome to continue chatting. #PBWY #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:01 chsocm
10:01
@Stevefogg All communication should be about your audience instead of you, right? #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:01 paulsteinbrueck
10:02
Thanks @chsocm and all. First time and really enjoyed it! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:02 VLMLab
10:02
As ever, thanks for the pleasure & privilege of chatting here tonight! #chsocm
Tuesday November 13, 2012 10:02 chsocm
 
 
T1: What do you value most about #chsocm conferences/workshops you’ve attended IRL/online?
T1a: What, if any, shifts have you noticed in content and conversation?
T2: Flipping that around, what do you wish conference/workshop organizers would delete from the agenda?
T3: If you were designing a one-day conference about church social media, what would it include?
T3a: Recognizing we’ll always to provide basic, introductory training, which more advanced conversations do we need to be having?
T3b: Are there any conversations about church social media we no longer need to be having? T3c: Which conversations about church social media do you WISH we no longer needed to have?!?

Tonight's chat moderated by Meredith Gould (@meredithgould)

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