We explored why mainline churches seem unable
to leverage social media tools, especially when
compared to what evangelical churches are doing.
9:00 | Welcome to our weekly church and social media (#chsocm) chat. Special welcome those joining for the first time! Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:00 rev_david |
9:00 | Right on time for -> #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:00 skenow |
9:01 | Hello #chsocm tweeps! I'm back after a couple weeks away from the group. I always love these discussions. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:01 UrbanNomadUSA |
9:02 | If you usually just listen in, consider speaking up tonight! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:02 rev_david |
9:02 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:02 saj_nachfolge |
9:03 | @raushenbush we used way too many candles without permission. Remember that? ;) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 adamwc |
9:03 | #chsocm Tweetchat (10/08/13) - bit.ly/15Z4FTI We're chatting about church social media at 9PM ET. Join us! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 chsocm |
9:03 | We always open this chat with prayer before moving on with self-introductions. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 rev_david |
9:03 | The Lord be with y’all! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 rev_david |
9:03 | @rev_david and also with you #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 WillPlatnick |
9:03 | West coast time zone never worked out for the #chsocm talks but I might try and check it out tonight. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 adamwc |
9:03 | God, mighty and merciful, we thank you for the wonderful diversity of your church, #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 rev_david |
9:03 | @rev_david and with all y'all #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 skenow |
9:04 | Be present in our conversation tonight, guiding our thought and words #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:04 rev_david |
9:04 | Bless our ministries, both online and in the flesh, with the power of your Spirit. Amen! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:04 rev_david |
9:04 | @UrbanNomadUSA Welcome back! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:04 MeredithGould |
9:04 | RT @rev_david Bless our ministries, both online and in the flesh, with the power of your Spirit. Amen! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:04 MeredithGould |
9:05 | Next up: intros. What is your church affiliation, and tell how are you currently using social media? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 rev_david |
9:05 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 ofredrick |
9:05 | @rev_david Praying with and for you all driving back home from an ordination. Have a great chat. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 RevWeb |
9:05 | #legalvoiceover: we assume tweets during chat are yours & do not represent your church, org, employer, parents, spouse, or neighbor #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 rev_david |
9:05 | <- Director of Communications, @UpstateNYSynod, @ELCA - FB, Twitter, Pinterest, Google Plus, email and Linkedin. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 nealffischer |
9:05 | #legalvoiceover No spam. Please don’t use this hour of chat to pitch your product, service, etc. Thanks! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 rev_david |
9:06 | I’m a Presbyterian pastor, do a ton on Facebook and Instagram with church. Connect with youth and everyone else. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:06 adamwc |
9:06 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:06 rev_david |
9:06 | @rev_david I'm ELCA Intern in Arden NC, and I'm trying to learn about using social media effectively. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:06 JaredJLee89 |
9:06 | I also do social media training, website design, and that is not part of my normal full time gig but on the side when able #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:06 adamwc |
9:07 | ELCA Conference Deacon, Developer/Operations at the YouVersion Bible App, a ministry of LifeChurch.tv (Evangelical Covenant) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 WillPlatnick |
9:07 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 saj_nachfolge |
9:07 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 ohxjulie |
9:07 | <-communications ministry consultant, sociologist, author, founder of #chsocm chat, fiercely ecumenical, gadfly, etc. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 MeredithGould |
9:07 | @WillPlatnick Good to see you my friend. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 nealffischer |
9:07 | I'm the senior editor for @HuffPostRelig and run the twitter feed for now, write, think about religion and the internet #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 raushenbush |
9:07 | @nealffischer You as well! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 WillPlatnick |
9:07 | @rev_david first Director for Evangelical Mission to have job description list social media ELCA northeastern Iowa synod #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 PastorJoelle |
9:08 | Please keep your intros going - I'm going to give some background for tonight. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:08 rev_david |
9:08 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:08 ofredrick |
9:08 | @raushenbush Are you still in/at Princeton? I've lost track! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:08 MeredithGould |
9:08 | @PastorJoelle that's awesome! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:08 WillPlatnick |
9:08 | #chsocm Former Adult Ministries Director, Church Communications Consultant Facebook Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, etc... #lovemyjob Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:08 kdunigan |
9:09 | During the #elcainstallation of our new Presiding Bishop, @raushenbush pointed out that you could combine mainline denomination #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:09 rev_david |
9:09 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:09 skenow |
9:09 | @raushenbush Ah, we left P'ton around the same time, then. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:09 MeredithGould |
9:09 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:09 kdunigan |
9:10 | Senior Seminarian, Director of Communications and CYF ministries at an ELCA church in NYC (Hi @UrbanNomadUSA!). #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 stynxno |
9:10 | It’s @Karina_L here through @creativecomm_co :) arms dealer for church communication leaders lol #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 creativecomm_co |
9:10 | ... And those mainline accts combined would only be a fraction of 1 evangelical pastors acct combined. #ch Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 rev_david |
9:10 | Great to see so many new people tonight! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 MeredithGould |
9:10 | RT @MeredithGould Great to see so many new people tonight! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 nealffischer |
9:10 | .. And those mainline accts combined would only be a fraction of 1 evangelical pastors acct combined. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 rev_david |
9:10 | Hi, #chsocm friends. I do sm & website for @TrinityTville, admin a handful of fb pages, teach parents & others about sm. Happy to be here. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 singingcarolyn |
9:11 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 MeredithGould |
9:11 | Yes, this means you! MT @rev_david: You there-awesome person using social media for your ministry! Join us @ tonight's #chsocm chat, 9pmET. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 singingcarolyn |
9:11 | ELCA pastor in SE Iowa. Lot of Facebook with the church. Getting into 4square & Instagram. Trying to push Twitter. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 eric_clapp |
9:11 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 adamwc |
9:11 | Hi everyone! Presbyterian, possible new communcication participant for our congregation. donut lover #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 kellydouglas |
9:11 | ProTip: if you use twubs or tweet chat the #chsocm hashtag will be automagically added Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 MeredithGould |
9:11 | @MeredithGould Some of us have to schedule #chsocm around bedtime for little tweeple. I want to make this a priority. :-) Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 saj_nachfolge |
9:11 | Hi adam! Presby here! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 kellydouglas |
9:12 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:12 rev_david |
9:12 | @kellydouglas Apple Cider donut time is a magical time #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:12 WillPlatnick |
9:13 | RT @rev_david Exam: @ELCA has 4.5m members, but 10k twitter followers.@MarsHill has 14k weekend attendance, 58k twitter followers #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 MeredithGould |
9:13 | RT @MeredithGould ProTip: if you use twubs or tweet chat the #chsocm hashtag will be automagically added Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 WillPlatnick |
9:13 | @saj_nachfolge @MeredithGould Tweetinf via iPhone in the dark while @CalebElijahWC falls asleep. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 adamwc |
9:13 | T1 - What factors keep non-evangelical churches from using social media as effectively? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 rev_david |
9:13 | Such a GREAT crowd tonight! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 kdunigan |
9:13 | <muttering> Numbers does not equal engagement, which is the "social" part of social media. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 MeredithGould |
9:14 | RT @MeredithGould <muttering> Numbers does not equal engagement, which is the "social" part of social media. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 skenow |
9:14 | Admissions @WartburgSem, in the call process, active in personal SM, secretly want to be @ohxjulie when I grow up. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 JealaineMarple |
9:14 | Sorry I'm late. Was delivering a care package to a family in my neighborhood who I just found out 20 min ago is in need. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 LuckyCharm333 |
9:14 | It’s because mainline churches are filled with old folks and we are all dying - these people are not on Twitter. #chsocm #plainandsimple Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 adamwc |
9:14 | @MeredithGould Ok. @JoelOsteen has 4k RT's on latest tweet. Is that engagement for your muttering? :) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 rev_david |
9:14 | T1: Without any statistics to back it up, I would guess age is a factor. Higher average age in mainlines, lower average age on SM. #ChSocM Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 ohxjulie |
9:15 | RT @MeredithGould <muttering>; Numbers does not equal engagement, which is the "social" part of social media. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 singingcarolyn |
9:15 | #chsocm I'm late. Again:) I'm that one annoying teen blogger. Hola. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 aliveforjesus |
9:15 | What is clear to me is that there is DISDAIN for social media in the mainline church leadership - it is fool hardy and perilous #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 raushenbush |
9:15 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 rev_david |
9:15 | T1: we suffer from "we've never done it that way before." #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 JealaineMarple |
9:15 | T1 IMHO it's not a technology issue, it's a symptom of how mainline's haven't done a great job at evangelism in general #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 WillPlatnick |
9:16 | terrror #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 kellydouglas |
9:16 | @saj_nachfolge I have to schedule #chsocm around MY bedtime... and tonight my bed might win :) @MeredithGould Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 reckshow |
9:16 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 Schnekloth |
9:16 | @raushenbush Say more about that, Paul. In the audience (congregation) or in the leadership? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 rev_david |
9:16 | @rev_david I could not possibly care less about @JoelOsteen's numbers. I DO care about regular pastors like you & your engagement! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 MeredithGould |
9:16 | T1 in my parish, I think age is the main factor. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 st_judes_church |
9:16 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 singingcarolyn |
9:17 | Old people ARE on social ministry! Assumption they are not is part of the problem! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 PastorJoelle |
9:17 | T1 - speaking of strict numbers, I'd say generational trends. "Mainline" is mostly boomers & older, rural = late adopters #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 saj_nachfolge |
9:17 | T1: The feeling that there's "no one" in my church to "do it" #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 stynxno |
9:17 | T1 Begs the question: How do we define "effectively"? I don't consider a deluge of redundant content effective. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 MeredithGould |
9:17 | If Mars Hill was filled with people in their 60s and up and not many young people, it’d be the same case for them. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 adamwc |
9:17 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 skenow |
9:17 | T1: Mainlines may have more members, but evangelical churches have more in one place. Easier to cultivate/spread a mindset. #ChSocM Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 ohxjulie |
9:17 | @raushenbush Disdain or fear? Or is that a distinction without a difference? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 MeredithGould |
9:17 | Hey peeps- it's that magical time of the week when I will be participating in our #chsocm chat. Please mute or pardon the unusual messages Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 kellydouglas |
9:17 | T1: My experience is that mainline churches aren't putting $$ into it, so unless they have fab volunteers, it isn't happening. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 singingcarolyn |
9:17 | @WillPlatnick: Yes, and there is a tendency to look inward instead of use every means possible to look outward. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 UrbanNomadUSA |
9:17 | @singingcarolyn @adamwc I think I am going to be really quiet or really careful in this chat... 0.0 #chsocm is there anyone else under 20? Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 aliveforjesus |
9:18 | Accidentally ended up on the #chsocm chat! I'm usually putting my little people to bed. Nice to see everyone! @laurenhhunter Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 ChurchTechToday |
9:18 | T1: There are many reasons. Not all denoms. have invested enough in it. Staff/Cash/etc. to give it a chance. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 nealffischer |
9:18 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 skenow |
9:18 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 PastorJoelle |
9:18 | @adamwc @rev_david It's true. Had a meeting tonight where a group was lamenting e-mail. Twitter is a non-starter for a lot of folks #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 eric_clapp |
9:18 | Although interestingly, the main people engaged in our #chsocm ministry are over 40. We're a small church so it's a small # overall. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 st_judes_church |
9:18 | after the meeting I had this morning, I would say it comes from a pure lack of understanding #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 kellydouglas |
9:18 | T1: Yes, older people are on SM, but they don't always automatically think to integrate it with every aspect of life like milennials #ChSocM Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 ohxjulie |
9:19 | Pope Benedict said online reality IS reality, it is where people are, to avoid it is to abandons people, the church abdicating #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 raushenbush |
9:19 | T1 - Really? It's not a corporate thing, it's personal #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 skenow |
9:19 | T1a - Pushing deeper: Is the reluctance for #chsocm among non-evangelicals rooted in audience (congregation) or leadership? Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 rev_david |
9:19 | pastor Lutheran in Fayetteville Arkansas. Book Mediating Faith: Faith Formation in Transmedia Culture out from Fortress Press 2014 #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 Schnekloth |
9:19 | T1cont.: Also, I would suggest that demographics also play a role. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 nealffischer |
9:19 | T1 Mainline's don't do enough to encourage their members to share their faith. Not in "real life" or social media #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 WillPlatnick |
9:19 | Is Google Plus being used by anyone successfully as a social media outreach tool? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 ChurchTechToday |
9:19 | MT @MeredithGould Important to distinguish types of accounts: "superstars," institutional accounts, local churches, individuals #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 rev_david |
9:20 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 MeredithGould |
9:20 | @WillPlatnick I like how you are pushing into the theological underpinnings. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 rev_david |
9:20 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 MeredithGould |
9:20 | @raushenbush I know some evangelical catholics in the #elca that are going to be horrified by this tweet. <evil grin> #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 saj_nachfolge |
9:20 | I think this post I wrote is what @raushenbush is talking about. There is disdain: pomomusings.com/2013/03/05/pre… They think it’s a fad. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 adamwc |
9:20 | T1a - Pushing deeper: Is the reluctance for #chsocm among non-evangelicals rooted in audience (congregation) or in leadership? Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 rev_david |
9:21 | T1 My sociological guess: it's also due to fear of the "e" word: evangelism, which sounds like evangelical. Vewy scawy to mainline. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:21 MeredithGould |
9:21 | T1- many of the people in my church on sm are older, but not all who run the church page or whatever know what's going on beforehand #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:21 aliveforjesus |
9:21 | T1a: Both. Cyclical: Leadership will use more SM if congregants engage with it if leadership uses more SM. #ChSocM Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:21 ohxjulie |
9:21 | @ChurchTechToday Not that I know of. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:21 kdunigan |
9:21 | @saj_nachfolge Evangelical...Roman Catholics? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:21 MeredithGould |
9:22 | T1a in my parish, the leadership was enthusiastic - just not that many members engaged in social media (although it's growing) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 st_judes_church |
9:22 | T1a I know one church that is scared of new members. Honest to God. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 LuckyCharm333 |
9:22 | RT @rev_david T1a - Pushing deeper: Is the reluctance for #chsocm among non-evangelicals rooted in audience (congregation) or in leadership? Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 MeredithGould |
9:22 | @rev_david I'd say both. Sure, audience is adopting late. But there are plenty of leaders openly hostile to #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 saj_nachfolge |
9:22 | T1: also the "tribe" mentality - don't need quick communication, people know what's happening and how to get involved #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 jensandmann |
9:22 | RT @LuckyCharm333 T1a I know one church that is scared of new members. Honest to God. #chsocm // Just 1? :) Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 rev_david |
9:22 | @rev_david T1a: both. I’ve seen many older pastors mock Twitter and make fun of Facebook in sermons. Only shows you’re irrelevant. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 adamwc |
9:22 | T1a Both. Fear of technology, fear of culture change collapsed & conflated into fear #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 MeredithGould |
9:23 | T1a I honestly think the reluctance comes from a basic knowledge of how to. It's fear rearing its ugly head. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 JealaineMarple |
9:23 | RT @MeredithGould T1a Both. Fear of technology, fear of culture change collapsed & conflated into fear #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 rev_david |
9:23 | T1A: Not to be a smart.... but the answer is yes. But, seriously it seems to be a native user vs. learned use. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 nealffischer |
9:23 | T1a There is also a lot of fear around SM. Ppl hear so many horror stories, esp seniors being scammed. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 LuckyCharm333 |
9:23 | T1a Ultimately it's both, but a leader has to lead and take responsibility. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 WillPlatnick |
9:23 | Episcopal church leader has 1,200 followers ELCA leader has no followers - visionary offline, nowhere online - really amazing #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 raushenbush |
9:23 | T1a Also in the way: confusing technical skills (relatively easy to acquire) w/spiritual gifts (not so easy to identify) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 MeredithGould |
9:24 | @ChurchTechToday Google+ not really useful in community-buildling, but does help bring folks to the site! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 singingcarolyn |
9:24 | I don't think it's fear of tech as much as fear of talking abt faith. Fear of being labeled. Fear of the "e-word." #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 reckshow |
9:24 | @MeredithGould Some ecumenically-minded #elca folks like the moniker "evangelical catholic" - and very much against #chsocm on the whole Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 saj_nachfolge |
9:24 | T1a: I think social media can scare leaders as they realize they are no longer controlling the message, everyone has a mouthpiece. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 UrbanNomadUSA |
9:24 | T1: Started @ a new cong. 2 months ago. Posted on their FB page twice in 1 week & they were over the moon. Leaders play a big part. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 eric_clapp |
9:24 | @raushenbush Get past the numbers. What's the engagement like? TEC church leader has someone tweeting for her & a robust staff. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 MeredithGould |
9:25 | T1a- Both, though the leader would be well advised to keep the audience in mind #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:25 aliveforjesus |
9:25 | T2 - What can other traditions learn from evangelical churches about social media? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:25 rev_david |
9:25 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:25 singingcarolyn |
9:26 | T1a reluctance also comes from not knowing how SM could help. Seen as just "one more thing." #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 JealaineMarple |
9:26 | @eric_clapp same here. Started 8/1 and we now have double FB Likes and people are “AMAZED” and I’m just posting a photo or two. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 adamwc |
9:26 | T2 Evangelical churches have always been at the forefront of using technology not just social media. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 MeredithGould |
9:26 | Look at Pope Francis, Dalai Lama, peoplewant to hear something beautiful, or learn something new, be enlightened. How is this hard? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 raushenbush |
9:26 | @raushenbush Thanks for making the time tonight!! Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 rev_david |
9:26 | T2: No evangelical church has had a major meltdown or shut its doors because they used more social media. That I know of, anyway. #ChSocM Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 ohxjulie |
9:26 | @MeredithGould Why do you suppose that is? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 LuckyCharm333 |
9:26 | Lack of control is difficult for some older church leaders #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 PastorJoelle |
9:26 | T2 Mainline's are smaller and therefore in their minds, their context is local and and excel at it. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 WillPlatnick |
9:27 | @LuckyCharm333 Why do I supposed what is? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 MeredithGould |
9:27 | RT @PastorJoelle: Lack of control is difficult for some older church leaders #chsocm // So true! Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 rev_david |
9:27 | RT @WillPlatnick T2 Mainline's are smaller and therefore in their minds, their context is local and and excel at it. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 LuckyCharm333 |
9:27 | @singingcarolyn harsh but true. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 adamwc |
9:27 | Man, SO late for the #chsocm chat. Too much happening right now... Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 pastorcylar |
9:27 | @ChurchTechToday Yes, for personal outreach/engagement, but our parish only uses Twitter/Facebook (direct & via ConstantContact). #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 Fr_CW |
9:27 | T2 big difference I've noticed is using #chsocm for spreading the gospel vs spreading announcements. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 st_judes_church |
9:27 | @MeredithGould Evangelical churches more tech-accepting. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 LuckyCharm333 |
9:27 | @MeredithGould Props for using that saying properly. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 cgubsch |
9:27 | T2: Mainliners can learn from their daily/hourly posts & updates. If church people are on Fb and Twitter, why not talk about church? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 RevDavidYonker |
9:27 | #chsocm if that's where the people are... What's that song, 'carry your candle...' Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 aliveforjesus |
9:27 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 rev_david |
9:28 | @LuckyCharm333 @MeredithGould again, age and generation has something to do with it. And they get cultural trends better. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 adamwc |
9:28 | @PastorJoelle Retweet Favorite - is there anything more I can do to LOVE this tweet? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 saj_nachfolge |
9:28 | T2 Because more evangelical churches are larger I think they aim "higher". They evangelize to the whole world. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 WillPlatnick |
9:28 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 eric_clapp |
9:28 | RT @WillPlatnick T2 Because more evangelical churches are larger I think they aim "higher". They evangelize to the whole world. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 rev_david |
9:28 | @WillPlatnick "Aim higher" - I like that. Dream bigger. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 rev_david |
9:29 | T2 Mainlines want to use SM for broadcast tool, not for engagement. Lack understanding of potential. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:29 ofredrick |
9:29 | #chsocm Late to the conversation, but this is who I am -> Disciples of Christ pastor in Southeast Iowa Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:29 RevDavidYonker |
9:29 | #chsocm IF "success" is measured by streaming out "inspirational quotes" & links to content, then some big churches win. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:29 MeredithGould |
9:29 | T1 What if it is a lack of self confidence. We are small so what difference cab #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:29 Schnekloth |
9:30 | Ex: my church buys google adwords for porn keywords to drive people with addiction problems to their online services, big thinking #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:30 WillPlatnick |
9:30 | T1 what if it lack of self confidence. We are small so what difference can we make? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:30 Schnekloth |
9:30 | @MeredithGould Catholic lay people do feel engaged when they get a tweet from the pope and forward it - absolutely #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:30 raushenbush |
9:30 | Great Q Clint! // RT @Schnekloth T1 What if it is a lack of self confidence? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:30 rev_david |
9:31 | mindlessly RT the awesomeness that is #chsocm because I have no mental capacity left to join the conversation. Keep doing great work! Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 cgubsch |
9:31 | @saj_nachfolge heck lack of control difficult for all church leaders--even me at times #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 PastorJoelle |
9:31 | Way too many things to say this topic! :-) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 skenow |
9:31 | @raushenbush Not "absolutely," please! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 MeredithGould |
9:31 | @MeredithGould blech... not #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 ofredrick |
9:31 | T2 When we set our goal on spreading the gospel EVERYWHERE, mainlines will bring something amazingly special to the Kingdom #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 WillPlatnick |
9:32 | RT @Schnekloth: T1 We are small so what difference #chsocm // Yet the irony is that small can make almost as big an impact on social media. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 UrbanNomadUSA |
9:32 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 pastorcylar |
9:32 | #chsocm not sure which Q this is- but some little churches have no presence on sm- my local church isn't here, so i found you people:) Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 aliveforjesus |
9:32 | T2: Understand that what works today is sometimes more important than what worked yesterday. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 jensandmann |
9:32 | @raushenbush @MeredithGould agreed Paul. Hell, I feel engaged with when I get a tweet from the pope! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 adamwc |
9:32 | @WaytoLEAD Sadly I think it's more about faith than sm #ChsocM Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 peggy_hahn |
9:33 | "We are small so what difference." They need to learn how one selfie texted to one woman went viral. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 LuckyCharm333 |
9:33 | @raushenbush Not minimizing it, just work within another part of the Catholic world. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 MeredithGould |
9:33 | @KarinGraddy It is the unknown. I can't control it. Someone might say something mean and I can't run to mommy about it. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 nealffischer |
9:33 | RT @jensandmann T2: Understand that what works today is sometimes more important than what worked yesterday. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 KarinGraddy |
9:33 | Twitter has dedicated a person to work with evangelicals - because they get 3x the engagement of celebrities! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 skenow |
9:33 | @adamwc @raushenbush You do know that you are not getting a tweet from the pope. You're getting a tweet from his tweeting team. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 MeredithGould |
9:33 | T2: I think a lot of Mainline pastors don't know where to start with SM. So that anxiety translates to inaction. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 eric_clapp |
9:33 | T2: I wonder if evangelicals have a better handle on their expected "end results" with SM than mainline churches. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 stynxno |
9:34 | Does anyone know if any of the mainline churches have an internet or social media office? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:34 raushenbush |
9:34 | Yr right: RT @nealffischer It is the unknown. I can't control it. Someone might say something mean n I can't run to mommy about it. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:34 KarinGraddy |
9:34 | T2cont: not to say abandon traditions, but be willing to put the Mission first. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:34 jensandmann |
9:34 | @LuckyCharm333 Not sure that's an evangelism strategy I want to utilize, though. ;-) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:34 saj_nachfolge |
9:34 | T3 How can we encourage the churches we are in to make greater use of these tools? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:34 rev_david |
9:35 | I once told a small church pastor whose congregation wanted him on twitter to take it as a compliment - they want to hear from you! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 raushenbush |
9:35 | T3 - how can we make people not afraid?? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 KarinGraddy |
9:35 | @singingcarolyn or motivated pastors #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 tellthestories |
9:35 | @raushenbush Yes, they all do & those offices have been gutted over the years. They're also mostly staffed by print-oriented folks. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 MeredithGould |
9:35 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 PastorJoelle |
9:35 | @jensandmann True - but why not both? It's not an either/or proposition. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 saj_nachfolge |
9:35 | @MeredithGould @raushenbush that’s just accepted in SM world I think. And I’m ok with that. Heck, this is Adam’s tweeting team. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 adamwc |
9:35 | @MeredithGould No. But our denominational and judicatory staffs do. Or should. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 rev_david |
9:36 | @rev_david I'm starting to provide education classes on the how & why of #chsocm It's exciting!! Our excitement should be contagious! Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:36 kdunigan |
9:36 | What is so wrong with making a mistake and admitting it, apologizing, and moving on? None of us are Jesus! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:36 KarinGraddy |
9:36 | T3 Mainline churches have to overcome their fear of evangelism. Without it, they will die, even if they are social media experts. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:36 WillPlatnick |
9:36 | @rev_david And how much time do we spend trying to train local & judicatory staff?!? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:36 MeredithGould |
9:36 | MT @WillPlatnick T3 Mainline churches have to overcome their fear of evangelism. Without it, they will die... #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:36 LuckyCharm333 |
9:37 | @UrbanNomadUSA right that is what viral is all about! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 Schnekloth |
9:37 | @raushenbush I applied for a Social Media position at PC(USA) about 5 months ago. They were hiring. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 adamwc |
9:37 | T3 if our congregations/organizations are using SM, please make sure the info is accurate. Wrong worship times make Jesus cry. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 JealaineMarple |
9:37 | @MeredithGould @rev_david want to empty a building? Light a fire in the basement, not on the roof #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 skenow |
9:37 | Wet blanket alert: MT @MeredithGould You do know you're not getting a tweet from the pope. It's a tweet from his tweeting team. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 singingcarolyn |
9:37 | @WillPlatnick T2 Mainlines' local context is all the more reason to use #sm. That sm is just for global outreach is a misconception #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 pastorcylar |
9:37 | MT @KarinGraddy We all seem to be so afraid of making a mistake on SM - so we/they don't use it. #chsocm // The liability question. Yup. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 rev_david |
9:37 | I am not afraid to make a mistake in front of my children. I use it as an opportunity to model how to apologize and make up for it! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 KarinGraddy |
9:38 | @singingcarolyn Sorry. Mea mongo culpa. Santa is real & so is the Easter Bunny! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 MeredithGould |
9:38 | T3 Once the passion for sharing Jesus is there, people will figure out the tools and do everything necessary to communicate it #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 WillPlatnick |
9:38 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 LuckyCharm333 |
9:38 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 saj_nachfolge |
9:38 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 SophiaKris |
9:38 | What a shame we have to be so hog-tied because of legal crud. @rev_david #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 KarinGraddy |
9:38 | @pastorcylar I agree, but we were talking numbers, which I agree isn't the best metric :) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 WillPlatnick |
9:38 | T3: Leading by example. Seminaries teaching it? When I taught, it took a couple of years for the kids to be "mine." #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 nealffischer |
9:38 | T3: Help congregations understand how #ChSocM cultivates community. That's often a barrier. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 ohxjulie |
9:38 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 MeredithGould |
9:39 | Hey All, this has been awesome! Have to jump off to do social for @HuffPostRelig - so glad to have been a part of it #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 raushenbush |
9:39 | RT @nealffischer T3: Leading by example. Seminaries teaching it? When I taught, it took a couple of years for the kids to be "mine." #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 rev_david |
9:39 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 MeredithGould |
9:39 | T3 So why isn't ol' Joel whoever afraid of legal crud? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 KarinGraddy |
9:39 | @rev_david next synod newsletter will have article by me telling pastors what they can do in 20 min on Facebook #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 PastorJoelle |
9:39 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 rev_david |
9:39 | So true. RT @MeredithGould #chsocm Could we please visit the Earth Plane? Most clergy do not have teams of communications pros. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 singingcarolyn |
9:39 | @saj_nachfolge Agreed, not either/or. Meant don't let traditional ways of engaging inhibit living the mission of the church. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 jensandmann |
9:39 | @raushenbush Thanks for stopping in! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 rev_david |
9:39 | @RevDavidYonker Sure, you may get a tweeting team when you have the resource$ for it! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 MeredithGould |
9:40 | @KarinGraddy I would suggest he has a team behind him. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:40 nealffischer |
9:40 | @WillPlatnick #chsocm T3 Truth! We had the best news to share so we should't be afraid to get after it and share it! Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:40 RevDavidYonker |
9:40 | .@raushenbush You should check out the work that @SophiaKris does for UMC. Led a Wildly successful Lent photoaday thing last yr #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:40 adamwc |
9:40 | Well yeah, @NealFischer - but they ain't Jesus either!! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:40 KarinGraddy |
9:40 | RT @PretzelMatt: #chsocm Could we please visit the Earth Plane? Most clergy do not have teams of communications pros. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:40 creativecomm_co |
9:41 | YES! RT @RevDavidYonker #chsocm T3 Truth! We had the best news to share so we should't be afraid to get after it and share it! Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 KarinGraddy |
9:41 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 safwatmarzouk |
9:41 | @raushenbush Could give you a list of competent, talented #chsocm pros @SophiaKris is on it, as is @ohxjulie! Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 MeredithGould |
9:41 | @raushenbush thanks for joining. It was my first tonight. Not sure why so many were pushing back on you so much… #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 adamwc |
9:41 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 MeredithGould |
9:41 | Mainline has less of a broadcast mentality than evangelicals. But they have a social justice focus and justice gets less retweets #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 Schnekloth |
9:42 | T4: How can non-evangelicals go about learning from evangelical about communications ministry? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 rev_david |
9:42 | @WillPlatnick oh okay, I'm way behind this evening... #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 pastorcylar |
9:42 | @ofredrick I think that unless mainline's emphasize that we have the best news around to share, they (we) will fail #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 WillPlatnick |
9:42 | I can not emphasize this enough. You only get out of something what you invest in it. People, time, resources. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 nealffischer |
9:42 | @saj_nachfolge I fb and tweet links to my online newsletters #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 KarinGraddy |
9:42 | T3 if you are SM savvy, offer workshops, lessons, etc to colleagues or the like. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 JealaineMarple |
9:43 | Why IS it that SO many people are afraid of social media? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:43 KarinGraddy |
9:43 | T4 We don't have to look at evangelicals to do it well, we have plenty of people doing amazing jobs in mainline denominations #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:43 WillPlatnick |
9:43 | YES! RT @nealffischer I can not emphasize this enough. You only get out of something what you invest in it. People, time, resources. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:43 KarinGraddy |
9:43 | @KarinGraddy some fear loss of privacy. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:43 tellthestories |
9:44 | T4 look, listen. Try. Repeat. Find what works, roll with it. Or find a techie in the church and ask them how to do such and such #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 aliveforjesus |
9:44 | @tellthestories @KarinGraddy Ppl are afraid b/c they think all privacy will be gone, identity stolen, etc. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 LuckyCharm333 |
9:44 | @KarinGraddy YES. #chsocm also has the advantage of easy multiplication. One click and good stuff is going out to others. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 saj_nachfolge |
9:44 | @saj_nachfolge we have print newsletter too. I post pdf on website, announce on FB (we're not active yet on Twitter) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 jensandmann |
9:44 | @WillPlatnick And how do we encourage / learn from those folks within our churches? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 rev_david |
9:44 | Oooh @NealFischer - they like you! :) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 KarinGraddy |
9:44 | RT @saj_nachfolge @KarinGraddy YES. #chsocm also has the advantage of easy multiplication. One click and good stuff is going out to others. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 rev_david |
9:45 | @WillPlatnick Leadership, for sure. Now to get laity on board also. #chsocm will work best at grassroots Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 saj_nachfolge |
9:45 | At the end of the day I'm not sure every mainline church is set up to work with SM in their context. My internship site isn't #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 JaredJLee89 |
9:45 | @LuckyCharm333 So why are we so worried about privacy? I have nothing to hide! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 KarinGraddy |
9:45 | @rev_david Ultimately, I think our leaders (us) need to step up and start shaping the message we preach to our congregations #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 WillPlatnick |
9:45 | T4: I feel like I look more to "secular" bloggers or entrepreneurs for SM ideas. Mix up content. Connect people. Help create meaning #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 eric_clapp |
9:45 | You there - awesome person using social media for your ministry! Join us at tonight's #chsocm chat, 9pm ET. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 rev_david |
9:45 | #chsocm Done well, takes strategic & tactical smarts as well as knowledge about church & faith. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 MeredithGould |
9:45 | T5 - If you could change 1 thing about how your church/org/denomination communicates, what would it be? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 rev_david |
9:45 | Top Twitter engagers are not celebrities, they're Christians - qub.me/Ct1wyr #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 skenow |
9:46 | @KarinGraddy I'm not. That's why I'm here. :-) #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:46 LuckyCharm333 |
9:46 | T4: Evangelicals do NOT hold back about their beliefs on social media. Mainliners should be so bold, for the sake of the Gospel. #ChSocM Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:46 ohxjulie |
9:46 | T4 Church Social Media becomes incredibly easy when you have a clear message to communicate #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:46 WillPlatnick |
9:46 | How will this attitude towards minister $ affect the future of ministry? #LCMS #chsocm - # of unpaid ministers up kansascity.com/2013/10/05/452… Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:46 webbnf |
9:46 | T3: Thinking about having a community class on SM, then following up with FB contest- need good contest idea-to show reach. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:46 jensandmann |
9:47 | @WillPlatnick is on FIRE tonight. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:47 kellydouglas |
9:47 | T5 - If you could change 1 thing ab how your church/org/denomination communicates, what would it be? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:47 rev_david |
9:47 | RT @rev_david T5 - If you could change 1 thing ab how your church/org/denomination communicates, what would it be? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:47 MeredithGould |
9:47 | T5 I think they should "follow" their congregants more - engaging them, and seeing, exactly where they are at. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:47 stynxno |
9:48 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 LuckyCharm333 |
9:48 | T4: get a little less polite. Not offensive, but genuine engagement means risking ruffled feathers. My Swedish forbears would HATE #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 saj_nachfolge |
9:48 | @WillPlatnick do you think our complex and contextualized message makes it harder to use over SM? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 JaredJLee89 |
9:48 | @rev_david That the communication is actually there. And clear and easy to understand. Oops.. that's 3 things... #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 vlhoppes |
9:48 | T5 I wish my seminary had a larger twitter presence. We're losing out on a lot with our absence. Yes, I've offered. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 JealaineMarple |
9:48 | t5 I wish they would be brave enough to give up some control #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 PastorJoelle |
9:48 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 MeredithGould |
9:48 | T4 #chsocm For one, by doing what a Catholic priest like me is doing, following Twitter/Facebook accounts such as @rev_david & @chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 Fr_CW |
9:48 | RT @nealffischer T5: We need to invest in communication as a whole. Downsizing let a lot of talented people go out of necessity. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 rev_david |
9:49 | RT @PastorJoelle t5 I wish they would be brave enough to give up some control #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 rev_david |
9:49 | T5: I think SM works best when its primary motive is to connect -- people, ideas, themes, events, etc. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 eric_clapp |
9:49 | @saj_nachfolge @WillPlatnick Build it & they will come. The key is to be consistent, otherwise people won't trust what you build. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 kdunigan |
9:49 | T5 - Understand the breadth and potential of online communities. We can grow using #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 ofredrick |
9:49 | T4: before it was the church secretary typing announcements into a pre-printed bulletin shell, now it involves planning & strategy.. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 creativecomm_co |
9:49 | T5 I'd change/fix the website! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 MeredithGould |
9:49 | @JaredJLee89 Great question! I definitely think a multifacted message is harder to communicate. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 WillPlatnick |
9:49 | T5 I wish churches/judicatories would understand & use a "brand ambassador" strategy for #chsocm & stop launching institutional accounts Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 MeredithGould |
9:50 | MT @KarinGraddy I don't think faith-talk has to be all religious. Faith can be shown through justice, caring, etc. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 LuckyCharm333 |
9:50 | T5: We need to invest in communication as a whole. Downsizing let a lot of talented people go out of necessity. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 nealffischer |
9:50 | so, so late coming in....just got back from mtg. #chsocm will read and introduce next Tuesday (hopefully) Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 embeddedfaith |
9:50 | @MeredithGould @stynxno Because sometimes "church staff" loses touch with what congregants deal with out in the "real world." #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 kdunigan |
9:50 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 rev_david |
9:50 | @rev_david @PastorJoelle I truly don't believe it is about control as much as what can be done with fewer staff. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 nealffischer |
9:50 | RT @eric_clapp: T5: I think SM works best when its primary motive is to connect -- people, ideas, themes, events, etc. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 creativecomm_co |
9:51 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 SophiaKris |
9:51 | Evangelicals tend to all stick to the same political party/issues, but we are more welcoming: broader. Maybe we're afraid to offend? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 KarinGraddy |
9:51 | @MeredithGould say more about brand ambassador #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 PastorJoelle |
9:51 | amen. RT @rev_david RT @ohxjulie T3: Help congregations understand how #ChSocM cultivates community. That's often a barrier. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 kellydouglas |
9:51 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 rev_david |
9:51 | @MeredithGould Yes, "brand embassador" is what evangelicals are doing well. I find it unnerving to interact with institutions on sm. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 singingcarolyn |
9:51 | @WillPlatnick @JaredJLee89 For really complex stuff, #chsocm can be an entry point. Denom. blogs, church FB pages, etc. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 saj_nachfolge |
9:51 | @MeredithGould I think it can be both and re: institutional accts and brand ambassador. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 nealffischer |
9:51 | T5: good comm. and #chsocm means allowing and asking people to actively write/experience themselves in God's story and a church's mission. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 cgubsch |
9:52 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 skenow |
9:52 | RT @nealffischer: I can not emphasize this enough. You only get out of something what you invest in it. People, time, resources. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 kellydouglas |
9:52 | #chsocm It's all here! bit.ly/OYeJb8 What the strategy is & why I advocate it. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 MeredithGould |
9:52 | Maybe we don't even have same political leanings as other folks in church office, therefore can't trust anyone else to say something #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 KarinGraddy |
9:52 | RT @eric_clapp: T5: I think SM works best when its primary motive is to connect #chsocm // Yes! So much more effective than broadcasting. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 UrbanNomadUSA |
9:52 | T5: Broad based consistent communication using best available resources/outlets. Don't assume ppl "just know." #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 jensandmann |
9:52 | Hey @MeredithGould - I know we've talked about it, but maybe we need to have another #brandambassador topic one week. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 rev_david |
9:52 | Today we launched an instagram account. One small victory for this loudmouth #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 kellydouglas |
9:52 | @singingcarolyn @MeredithGould This is a great point. Hadn't considered it before. What does that say about congregational #chsocm stuff? Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 saj_nachfolge |
9:53 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 singingcarolyn |
9:53 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 rev_david |
9:53 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 JealaineMarple |
9:53 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 rev_david |
9:53 | @rev_david Agree. I'll revisit it when it's my turn to mod! My newest workshop is on that stuff. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 MeredithGould |
9:53 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 ohxjulie |
9:54 | @kellydouglas Congratulations!!! :-) I worked with a church this month....and now they tweet! Super excited! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 kdunigan |
9:54 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 saj_nachfolge |
9:54 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 LuckyCharm333 |
9:54 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 JesusOfNaz316 |
9:54 | #chsocm Simply put: It's more powerful to have 3rd parties (congregants) talk about how great your church is than your church to do that. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 MeredithGould |
9:54 | Thanks all for having this convo with me tonight! Was very helpful for me, and I hope it was for you too. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 rev_david |
9:54 | But I think many folks - even within our own denom - see the "Gospel" in different ways (depending on their political party).?? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 KarinGraddy |
9:54 | @rev_david @ohxjulie @eric_clapp Count me in, too. If I can help. Or just show up and be a smartass. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 saj_nachfolge |
9:55 | Thanks much @rev_david - you rock #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 KarinGraddy |
9:55 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 LuckyCharm333 |
9:55 | Social media is like the press, it gave more people a space to have their own voice heard. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 safwatmarzouk |
9:55 | @saj_nachfolge @rev_david @eric_clapp I can't even fathom all of the amazing snark that would be present in that room. #ChSocM Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 ohxjulie |
9:55 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 creativecomm_co |
9:55 | As always, I learn so very much from you all when leading this convo. Y'all are awesome, & I'm grateful for your ministries. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 rev_david |
9:55 | @KarinGraddy #chsocm there is truth to that. Not just form a party standpoint. Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 nealffischer |
9:55 | @KarinGraddy This is true, but Gospel is clear on the great comission. It's time for mainline's to bring their A game. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 WillPlatnick |
9:56 | @rev_david thanks for hosting this. I look forward to participating in more of these in the future #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 JaredJLee89 |
9:56 | @rev_david Always great! I'm fanning myself to cool down. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 MeredithGould |
9:56 | @rev_david Is it over!?!? Fastest hour of the week for me! #chsocm :-) Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 kdunigan |
9:56 | Final tweets of wisdom, closing thoughts, smart remarks? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 rev_david |
9:56 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 saj_nachfolge |
9:56 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 KarinGraddy |
9:56 | @rev_david. Thank you. I can't believe our hour is up! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 kellydouglas |
9:56 | How often do these happen? #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 KarinGraddy |
9:56 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 WillPlatnick |
9:57 | @MeredithGould And use #brandambassador across all communication styles. Inviting someone to your church=being a brand ambassador. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 jensandmann |
9:57 | Final comment: Use these tools to inform, educate, inspire & build community. SPAM makes Jesus weep. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 MeredithGould |
9:57 | @KarinGraddy Weekly, 9 PM Eastern, 6 PM Pacific. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 LuckyCharm333 |
9:57 | @MeredithGould true, but it's also extremely important for official accounts to exist and have an engaging voice. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 justjonlee |
9:57 | Final Thought... There are reasons old saying often ring true. You only get out of it, what you put into it. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 nealffischer |
9:57 | I think I love you!! :) RT @saj_nachfolge Smartassery is one of my spiritual gifts. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 KarinGraddy |
9:57 | @rev_david Thank you for hosting! I'm always shocked at how quickly this hour goes. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 UrbanNomadUSA |
9:58 | sweet! Thanks @LuckyCharm333 #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 KarinGraddy |
9:58 | @KarinGraddy every Tuesday at 9:00 E. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 st_judes_church |
9:58 | @justjonlee "Extremely" important IF they have an "engaging voice." If not, shut 'em DOWN. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 MeredithGould |
9:58 | Nice job tonight @rev_david. Thanks for the strong effort. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 nealffischer |
9:58 | Extend your tents! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 safwatmarzouk |
9:58 | @saj_nachfolge RE: T4 #chsocm "Get less polite" See & consider philcooke.com/five-non-chris… @PhilCooke Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 Fr_CW |
9:58 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 creativecomm_co |
9:59 | Great #chsocm chat thanks @rev_david and all! Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 PastorJoelle |
9:59 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 skenow |
9:59 | Thanks for your leadership, @rev_david! Good to be back. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 JealaineMarple |
9:59 | @rev_david, excellent topics, really helpful chat tonight. Thanks for your superb moderating! #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 singingcarolyn |
9:59 | Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 KarinGraddy |
9:59 | As we come up on the hour, we conclude with this prayer from Compline: #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 rev_david |
10:00 | Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:00 rev_david |
10:00 | Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:00 rev_david |
10:00 | RT @rev_david Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:00 LuckyCharm333 |
10:00 | The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on churchsocmed.blogspot.com within a few hours. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:00 rev_david |
10:00 | Remember to tune in again next week: same bat-time, same bat-hashtag. #chsocm Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:00 rev_david |
10:01 | Hashag your great communications resources with #chsocm all week long! Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:01 rev_david |
10:02 | The #chsocm tweetchat is formally over for this evening, but the coffee hour continues for as long as you wish to continue chatting. Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:02 rev_david |
The topics:
T1: What factors keep non-evangelical churches from using social media as effectively?
T1a: Pushing deeper: Is the reluctance for #chsocm among non-evangelicals rooted in audience (congregation) or leadership?
T2: What can other traditions learn from evangelical churches about social media? #chsocm
T3: How can we encourage the churches we are in to make greater use of these tools? #chsocm
T4: How can non-evangelicals go about learning from evangelical about communications ministry? #chsocm
T5: If you could change 1 thing about how your church/org/denomination communicates, what would it be? #chsocm
This week's chat moderated by David Hansen (@Rev_David)
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