Tuesday, April 23, 2013

#ChSocM Chat Transcript: 4/23/13: Advising Newcomers, Dealing With Critics of Social Media

This week's chat focused on basics like 
advising people getting started, dealing with critics, 
and encouraging skeptics to explore social media.

 #ChSocM Tweetchat 04/23/13(04/23/2013) 
9:00
Welcome to our weekly church and social media (#chsocm) chat, especially to those joining for the first time.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:00 azrork
9:00
If this is your first tweetchat, please don’t be discouraged by the pace! A transcript will be available: bit.ly/pTDoAb #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:00 azrork
9:00
@azrork Aw, treasure that! Your first #chsocm chat moderating typo.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:00 MeredithGould
9:01
If we're all ready...let's go! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:01 azrork
9:02
We always open the #chsocm chat with prayer before moving on with self-introductions. Let us pray:
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:02 azrork
9:02
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:02 paulsteinbrueck
9:02
Almighty & merciful God, we rejoice in your abiding presence everywhere & your mercy at all times. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:02 azrork
9:02
@azrork We're ready! At least *I* am! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:02 MeredithGould
9:02
We give thanks for this & every opportunity to share experience & inquiry anchored in faith. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:02 azrork
9:03
We ask your Holy Spirit to inspire tonight’s conversation & guide us as we move forward in love & service. Amen. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:03 azrork
9:03
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:03 SmilingKIJ
9:03
Amen. Come Holy Spirit. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:03 RevWeb
9:04
Next up: self-introductions. In addition to church affiliation, tell everyone how you currently use social media. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:04 azrork
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Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:04 MeredithGould
9:04
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:04 paulsteinbrueck
9:04
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:04 singingcarolyn
9:05
Kathi here. ELCA pastor in N. TX. Use FB for me & church. Use Twitter for me & church. Pondering G+ anew. Two blogs. Pinterest. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:05 SmilingKIJ
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Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:05 GodtheHealerDev
9:05
As we introduce ourselves, a few disclaimers… #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:05 azrork
9:05
Stephen fife, elder Methodist church, Louisiana, use twitter for social interaction conversations etc... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:05 methodistmonk
9:05
More tweets than usual for the next hour. Tuning in to the weekly chat about digital media & ministry. Join us at #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:05 rev_david
9:06
#Episcopal priest. Bishop's staff. #Baltimore MD. SM to broadcast/narrowcast/build community. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:06 RevWeb
9:06
We will assume tweets during #chsocm chat are yours & do not represent your church or organization.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:06 azrork
9:06
Jr seminarian at @SewaneeSeminary from the Episcopal Diocese of Western Kansas. I help run social media for the seminary #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:06 bigredkate44
9:06
<-sociologist, author, digital strategist & communications consultant, gadfly, emphatically ecumenical #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:06 MeredithGould
9:06
Kindly remember that we’re here to share with & support one another. Please use DM or email to pitch products/services #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:06 azrork
9:07
@bigredkate44 Guessing you're from Nebraska. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:07 RevWeb
9:07
Melanie Van Weelden, Disciples of Christ, use FB, Twitter in two small rural churches. Here w/@smoricebrubaker social media class. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:07 melanie4399
9:07
Tweeps: I'm participating in the #chsocm chat (church social media). Lots o' tweets this next hour. Mute me or join in!
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:07 MeredithGould
9:07
Moderating tonight: Amy Rork, #chsocm volunteer for @FPCGV in #grapevinetx . We use many SM platforms to connect and reach out.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:07 azrork
9:07
<--Director of Communications, @UpstateNYSynod @ELCA - FB, Twtr, G+, LinkedIn, email. Starting with @Pheed and @tumblr for self. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:07 nealffischer
9:07
.@AmericanBaptist pastor, author, blogger, and purveyor of chicken nuggets. Use social media to connect and share. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:07 alanrud
9:08
*looks around for @rev_david 's pom-poms...* #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:08 SmilingKIJ
9:08
Friends, please excuse the number of posts over the next hour. I will be participating in the #chsocm tweetchat. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:08 nealffischer
9:08
Welcome all! So glad we're all here together. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:08 azrork
9:08
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:08 paulsteinbrueck
9:08
Here comes the weekly chat, talking about church & social media. Ignore me or, better yet, join in at #chsocm.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:08 singingcarolyn
9:08
Joe, pastor @stjohnslakewood. ELCA, I use whatever #chsocm tools I can get my hands on for community connection.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:08 youravgpastor
9:08
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:08 azrork
9:08
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:08 bfelice
9:09
Vocationally Challenged @LutherSeminary grad, Seeing eye person to blind dog, slightly professional singer, SM researcher, musicgeek #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:09 Neeterduck
9:09
Looking forward to @azrork moderating tonight. Now I can cause trouble. I mean, more trouble. :) #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:09 rev_david
9:09
This week we’re going to revisit why we’re all here. What started it all – why we do #chsocm.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:09 azrork
9:09
PC(USA). Communications for @gracepresbytery. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:09 froggent
9:09
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:09 MeredithGould
9:09
@azrork faith formation @lakecitpres. Church social media & personal- FB, twitter, Pinterest, blogs, #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:09 LeenaPrindle
9:09
I like trouble! “@rev_david: Looking forward to @azrork moderating tonight. Now I can cause trouble. I mean, more trouble. :) #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:09 azrork
9:09
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:09 rev_david
9:09
#chsocm Erin #ELCA. Weekly devotional writer at God-the-Healer.com. Biking chica. Three dogs. @LutherSeminary Alum.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:09 GodtheHealerDev
9:10
@azrork Hello! Social media coach for congregations, SM manager for @vibrantfaith, Minnesotan, mom to 16mo boy =) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:10 anna_r
9:10
RT @JesusOfNaz316: King of Kings. Lord of Lords. // And pretty swell guy. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:10 rev_david
9:10
He showed! RT @JesusOfNaz316: King of Kings. Lord of Lords. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:10 azrork
9:10
@bfelice @Pheed could be really good if you get a youth group and critical mass. I think that will require an android app. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:10 nealffischer
9:11
Ready for the first topic? Ready...set... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:11 azrork
9:11
T1 If a new ministry were considering #chsocm, what advice would you give them?
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:11 azrork
9:11
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:11 azrork
9:11
#chsocm It is relatively easy for me 2 use soc media as an individual, but how do congregations engage w/o controversy?
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:11 dianabutlerbass
9:12
@LeenaPrindle Good to see you, Leena! #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:12 azrork
9:12
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:12 GodtheHealerDev
9:12
Trying to participate in #chsocm with iPhone while at band boosters meeting. Which will finish first? Band started first by 60 mins.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:12 froggent
9:12
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:12 MeredithGould
9:12
"@azrork He showed! RT @JesusOfNaz316: King of Kings. Lord of Lords. #chsocm // I kinda made a promise about 2 or 3 gathering.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:12 JesusOfNaz316
9:12
@MeredithGould Hi all! Monks of Unvirtuous Abbey. We worship @JesusOfNaz316 . We use social media to screen his calls. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:12 UnvirtuousAbbey
9:12
@singingcarolyn Profit?!?! What's that?!? ;-) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:12 azrork
9:12
@azrork T1: Go for it! Make accounts public. You can always use the delete button =) And advertise, advertise, your new accounts. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:12 anna_r
9:12
T1: Don't try so hard and keep it real son #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:12 alanrud
9:13
@dianabutlerbass Evening! I think the answer to that is "carefully and prayerfully" :) #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:13 rev_david
9:13
RT @UnvirtuousAbbey: Hi all! Monks of Unvirtuous Abbey. We worship @JesusOfNaz316 . We use social media to screen his calls. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:13 MeredithGould
9:13
We're more fun... RT @froggent: Trying to participate in #chsocm with iPhone while at band boosters meeting.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:13 azrork
9:13
T1: Do your research (find out what most of your group use or feel comfy with), have a plan/strategy, encourage interaction. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:13 nealffischer
9:13
New to #chsocm So, looking for ideas
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:13 pjluth
9:14
Thanks @azrork! I'll do my best to keep up. 6pm In Seattle and i cooking dinner for hungry daughters.. ;) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:14 LeenaPrindle
9:14
Wow. @UnvirtousAbbey, @JesusOfNaz316, and @dianabutlerbass all in tonight's chat. Apparently @azrork should moderate every week :) #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:14 rev_david
9:14
T1 be consistent, have a plan and stick to it, keep your ministry social media about your ministry. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:14 methodistmonk
9:14
And don't give up! RT @rev_david: T1 - Have a strategy. Have a plan. Have goals. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:14 azrork
9:14
T1 - #chsocm @dianabutlerbass Set ground rules from the beginning.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:14 melanie4399
9:14
At ballgame @nats losing, but want to follow. Specific goals are tough beyond fun & connection. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:14 RevNancyFitz
9:14
@dianabutlerbass It's a good question. Remember that there is a difference between institutional voice & personal opinion. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:14 rev_david
9:15
T1 Clarify what you want to happen as a result of using social media. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:15 MeredithGould
9:15
True -- every group is different. RT @nealffischer: T1: Do your research (find out what most of your group use or feel comfy with),
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:15 azrork
9:15
RT @rev_david: T1 - Have a strategy. Have a plan. Have goals. #ChSocM // And be patient.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:15 GodtheHealerDev
9:15
A1: consistent posting; fun pictures that are genuine to the organization; good boundaries. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:15 SmilingKIJ
9:15
#chsocm Seems that Twitter is most int when edgy; FB most helpful when connecting people in community.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:15 dianabutlerbass
9:15
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:15 MeredithGould
9:15
<--sneaking in just in time for T1... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:15 LuckyCharm333
9:15
RT @MeredithGould: T1 Clarify what you want to happen as a result of using social media. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:15 LuckyCharm333
9:15
It seems that Jesus showed up and everyone strayed off task. I can't concentrate. He has that effect on folks. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:15 azrork
9:16
@MeredithGould @rev_david since @dianabutlerbass is on #chsocm tonight, I'm just gonna go back to reading her book. ;)
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:16 reckshow
9:16
@luckie_reubs #chsocm That's what I'm saying. Diff soc media lend toward different styles of communication
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:16 dianabutlerbass
9:16
T1 - Identify the people within your ministry who are *already* using social media well. Who is is called to #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:16 rev_david
9:16
T1: Understand that social media is not a one way conversation #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:16 alanrud
9:16
Is it bad that I'm more excited about @UnvirtuousAbbey than @JesusOfNaz316? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:16 azrork
9:16
T1: we found other seminaries, looked at what they tweeted, and modeled off of what looked like worked for them. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:16 bigredkate44
9:16
@azrork T1: If we're talking a/b a ministry w/in a church. Definitely want to b on the same page w overall comm strategy. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:16 paulsteinbrueck
9:17
AMEN! And educate to this. RT @alanrud: T1: Understand that social media is not a one way conversation #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 SmilingKIJ
9:17
RT @azrork: Is it bad that Im more excited about @UnvirtuousAbbey than @JesusOfNaz316? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 LuckyCharm333
9:17
Hi all you #chsocm where are we at?
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 Stevefogg
9:17
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 UnvirtuousAbbey
9:17
Why I chose my topics for tonight: ----> RT @froggent: T1 - don’t let people who don’t get SM discourage you in the ministry. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 azrork
9:17
RT @froggent: T1 - don’t let people who don’t get SM discourage you in the ministry. //Amen! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 LuckyCharm333
9:17
RT @alanrud: T1: Understand that social media is not a one way conversation///AMEN. One of the biggest problems w/leadership. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 RevWeb
9:17
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 alanrud
9:17
Yes! This is huge. RT @alanrud: T1: Understand that social media is not a one way conversation. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 anna_r
9:17
T1 - don’t let people who don’t get SM discourage you in the ministry. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 froggent
9:17
How do you encourage the non-users? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:17 pjluth
9:18
@Stevefogg T1 Advice to churches considering --> #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:18 LuckyCharm333
9:18
But, really, we're just getting warmed up for T1b. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:18 azrork
9:18
T1: start with one method that many of your participants are familiar using, have someone who already uses SM admin ministry accts #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:18 LeenaPrindle
9:18
T1b: Do you think there are ministries/churches that would NOT benefit from #chsocm?
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:18 azrork
9:18
@RevWeb @alanrud And not top-down. Too many churches still think top-down. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:18 dianabutlerbass
9:18
Good to see @UnvirtuousAbbey here with #chsocm I've been on hiatus.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:18 alanrud
9:18
T1 Give people permission to not participate and ask them not to block others from doing so. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:18 MeredithGould
9:18
T1 - Confession. I have a hard time narrowing it down to just the "one thing" I say to a ministry new to social media. :) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:18 rev_david
9:18
Hoping that @UnvirtuousAbbey will see my participation in #chsocm tonight and unblock me =) Bummed to have been blocked by them!
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:18 anna_r
9:19
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:19 JesusOfNaz316
9:19
RT @MeredithGould: T1 Give people permission to not participate and ask them not to block others from doing so. #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:19 theologybird
9:19
Joining in #chsocm while waiting for others to show up at our #PubTheology gathering in Burien, WA
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:19 RevMindi
9:19
@azrork Not in this day and age … #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:19 pjluth
9:19
Why reinvent the wheel? Greatness! RT @bigredkate44: T1: we found other seminaries, looked at what they tweeted.... #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:19 azrork
9:19
T1b Any church/ministry w/no msg to spread, and doesn't want to grow. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:19 LuckyCharm333
9:19
As Adm. Painter told Jack Ryan in the Hunt for Red October... youtu.be/Rb0QLxcvowk #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:19 nealffischer
9:20
T1B: Yeah churches that are too busy lamenting their down fall. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:20 alanrud
9:20
@revricktooele Well, don't think anything. But lots of churches has issues w/being too much so, esp on SM #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:20 dianabutlerbass
9:20
@RevMindi Wow, we should do that here in Tacoma! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:20 LuckyCharm333
9:20
T1b: places where it is not a native language and no one will be able to handle the downs with the pluses ^shudders with memories^ #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:20 theologybird
9:20
if you start keep using it or you look really out of date. make a commitment #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:20 diygreg
9:20
Loving the #chsocm chat (yes, still "lurking")
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:20 widhidana
9:20
T1B: If no one is called to that ministry/unwilling to learn, or places where SM is not the language. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:20 Neeterduck
9:20
Ahh, forgot about this! Sorry I'm late to the party :] #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:20 ohxjulie
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Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:20 pjluth
9:21
@singingcarolyn That would be MY case. The convincing. Not the clergy, but the lay leaders. God give me strength... #chsocm @alanrud
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 azrork
9:21
LOL RT @paulsteinbrueck: @azrork T1b: Im going to say conservative Amish churches wouldnt benefit from social media. ;) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 SmilingKIJ
9:21
@revricktooele Well, I don't have prob w/controversy. But lots of churches do, esp when it comes to SM #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 dianabutlerbass
9:21
@widhidana I 'unlurked' last week =) Welcome! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 anna_r
9:21
T1b If you're ministering in Christ's church, e.g. sharing Good News, then you better be figuring out how to use SM. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 RevWeb
9:21
T1b - There are congregations who should not yet get on a particular platform. If it doesn't fit the strategy & gifts. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 rev_david
9:21
RT @dianabutlerbass: @revricktooele Well, I dont have prob w/controversy. But lots of churches do, esp when it comes to SM #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 theologybird
9:21
T1b #chsocm Churches, maybe no, ministries, yes there are some!
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 bfelice
9:21
T1b Yes, I do. Anyone who won't use it to interact. Using #sm as a bulletin board w/out interaction is as scary and not having it. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 nealffischer
9:21
T1b ministries that confuscate the good news should not use social media #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 methodistmonk
9:21
@azrork @singingcarolyn Lord, hear our social media prayer. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:21 alanrud
9:22
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 anna_r
9:22
@widhidana So glad you're here! Jump in if you wish. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 azrork
9:22
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 azrork
9:22
T1b: Yes. Ohhhhh yes. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 ohxjulie
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Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 LuckyCharm333
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Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 diygreg
9:22
@rev_david T1b: I agree. There is 1 thing worse than not doing social media & that is doing it badly. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 paulsteinbrueck
9:22
RT @nealffischer: Using #sm as a bulletin board w/out interaction is as scary and not having it. // Yup #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 rev_david
9:22
At Jan retreat, church decided to use FB more to promote events & keep up spirit. Twitter us a diff animal #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 RevNancyFitz
9:22
@RevMindi What could be better than a #chsocm and #pubtheology mash-up?
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 singingcarolyn
9:22
I tend to agree w/this: RT @bfelice: T1b #chsocm Churches, maybe no, ministries, yes there are some!
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:22 azrork
9:23
T1b I've gotten to the point where I invite people to leave workshops if all they want to do is diss #chsocm from a position of ignorance.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:23 MeredithGould
9:23
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:23 azrork
9:23
T1b It's not IF parishioners are using SM - they ARE #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:23 pjluth
9:24
@maggidawn @luckie_reubs That's my thought. I've seen some pastors & churches get into serious trouble tweeting 2 quickly. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:24 dianabutlerbass
9:24
So, I've eluded to this already, but here comes Topic #2.... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:24 azrork
9:24
Church communications folk: help me with a short survey and win a $100 Amazon gift card - j.ustin.cc/churchcommsurv… #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:24 JustinWise
9:24
T2 Do most in your church support faith/community building via SM? How do you answer the critics? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:24 azrork
9:25
@MeredithGould Wow, I'd love to see that invite. Well, not really, but the drama would be something to see. :) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:25 paulsteinbrueck
9:25
@azrork thanks! Learning a lot from the discussions :) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:25 widhidana
9:25
@dianabutlerbass @maggidawn @luckie_reubs Twitter is actually the last social media platform I generally recommend at the start #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:25 MeredithGould
9:25
RT @azrork: T2 Do most in your church support faith/community building via SM? How do you answer the critics? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:25 LuckyCharm333
9:25
A2: Yes. I've been known to take my laptop around to those not online & show them pics posted. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:25 SmilingKIJ
9:25
@JustinWise please keep solicitation, requests, and marketing to email and DM. here for convo. #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:25 theologybird
9:26
@MeredithGould #chsocm Criticizing SM is a little like attacking printing press during the Reformation.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:26 dianabutlerbass
9:26
I'm facing challenges in our congregation. There are folks to see encouraging SM as kids buried in their phones during sermons. UGH. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:26 azrork
9:26
Most do; critics are more indifferent. don't get it. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:26 pjluth
9:26
T2: Most people are either supportive or don't use it but aren't against it. BUT... #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:26 ohxjulie
9:26
T2 Very few use/support SM. Definitely not a priority in most parishes. Growing slowly. Very slowly. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:26 RevWeb
9:26
A2: And in terms of critics, I maintain face-to-face relationships with folks. That seems to be their main concern. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:26 SmilingKIJ
9:26
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:26 azrork
9:26
@azrork Not w/in my home congregation. They're not super keen on social media growth. Hard to answer critics. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:26 anna_r
9:26
T1b - ministries that are hiding people for safety or working with confidential info shouldn't use SM. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:26 LeenaPrindle
9:26
@JustinWise Jeeez, Justin. You know the rules of engagement. Stop that! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:26 MeredithGould
9:27
YES! RT @dianabutlerbass: @MeredithGould Criticizing SM is a little like attacking printing press during the Reformation. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:27 anna_r
9:27
T2 no, very resistant. One of the reasons I make use of @Storify, to show that real conversations happen on sm. #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:27 theologybird
9:27
T2 I mostly encounter fear. Ppl actually think that merely signing up for FB puts their whole life in public. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:27 LuckyCharm333
9:27
RT @rev_david: T2 - I think it helps that I simply led from out in front, rather than asking permission. // Me too. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:27 SmilingKIJ
9:27
We only have a handful using twitter so it's more if a connection. But also we receive important denom tweets like from @CoB_Peace #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:27 RevNancyFitz
9:27
T2 church enjoys interaction through Facebook page. Lets people who have moved away keep up with their old church #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:27 methodistmonk
9:27
T2: ...there's one couple that abhors any use of technology. I think they'd like to go back to candles and mimeographs. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:27 ohxjulie
9:27
We've tried answering with numbers -- the potential outreach. But it's fallen on deaf ears. Lots of them! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:27 azrork
9:27
T2: Working for a Judicatory many are supportive, though the interaction is a challenge because we aren't as local as the parish. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:27 nealffischer
9:28
T2 Tell critics, in all Christian love, Lead, follow or get out of the way. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:28 RevWeb
9:28
@methodistmonk That's a great thing. We've experienced that too. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:28 azrork
9:28
@JustinWise Asking people to participate in your survey during the weekly #chsocm chat? Good Lord.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:28 MeredithGould
9:28
RT @azrork: Weve tried answering with numbers -- the potential outreach. But its fallen on deaf ears. Lots of them! //Not alone... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:28 LuckyCharm333
9:28
@azrork Yeah numbers are tough. But who can argue with a pic of a cute baby? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:28 SmilingKIJ
9:28
T2: I explain that we CANNOT pretend that tech isn't important. We just need to be the most faithful users we can be. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:28 ohxjulie
9:28
If DBB says it, it's true: RT @dianabutlerbass: #chsocm Criticizing SM is a little like attacking printing press during the Reformation.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:28 azrork
9:28
T2: we had opposition from some of the other seminarians at first...but more and more people are embracing it. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:28 bigredkate44
9:28
@singingcarolyn They generally leave to go to the bathroom and never come back. Fine by me. Rather have people who are coachable. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:28 MeredithGould
9:29
@SmilingKIJ Now you've made me snort laugh!!! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:29 azrork
9:29
RT @RevWeb: T2 Tell critics, in all Christian love, Lead, follow or get out of the way. #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:29 theologybird
9:30
Love that our feed is full of #chsocm folks =) Happy partying!
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:30 vibrantfaith
9:30
T2: I mean if @JesusOfNaz316 uses SM, who can argue with it?!?!? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:30 azrork
9:30
RT @azrork: T2: I mean if @JesusOfNaz316 uses SM, who can argue with it?!?!? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:30 nealffischer
9:30
MT @bfelice: T2 #Chsocm There is some right time-right place. When the community is outward looking and healthy, its more natural. #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:30 theologybird
9:30
It's hard to cook and follow along on the #ChSocM chat at the same time...
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:30 bigredkate44
9:31
T2 Hard to get ppl to approach SM the same way they approach phone or F2F comms. There are boundaries in all. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:31 LuckyCharm333
9:31
Exactly! How to change that mindset?!?? #chsocm RT @singingcarolyn: @azrork "Do kids even know how to have a conversation these days"
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:31 azrork
9:31
@bigredkate44 Not if you just heat leftovers! ;-) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:31 LuckyCharm333
9:31
@bigredkate44 Check out the transcript later. I'll post the link in a bit... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:31 azrork
9:31
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:31 theologybird
9:32
"@nealffischer RT @azrork: T2: I mean if @JesusOfNaz316 uses SM, who can argue with it?!?!? #chsocm // The elders meeting?
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:32 JesusOfNaz316
9:32
@azrork @singingcarolyn or the convo structure has changed? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:32 alanrud
9:32
So, a follow up to T2.... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:32 azrork
9:32
Incorporating prayer requests I've gotten from SM into Wed eve worship has helped too. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:32 SmilingKIJ
9:32
T2 re critics, I'm not sure why use of any particular channel to express the Good News needs be justified. Simply another means. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:32 bfelice
9:33
King of Kings. Lord of Lords. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:33 JesusOfNaz316
9:33
T2 - Now, yes, and the church is a large percentage of older folks. More so with current pastor who has been educating congregation. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:33 LeenaPrindle
9:33
Compromise? Maybe avoid RTs since you're using a hashtag? MT @MeredithGould: Tweeps: I'm participating in #chsocm chat Mute me or join in!
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:33 MotherStormy
9:33
You were there?!?!? RT @JesusOfNaz316: "@azrork: T2: If @JesusOfNaz316 uses SM, who can argue with it?!?!? #chsocm // The elders meeting?
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:33 azrork
9:33
T2b Who are the critics? Is there a generational (or some other) divide? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:33 azrork
9:34
@singingcarolyn @azrork I'm going to start saying huffily, "Ugh, do baby boomers even know how to tweet these days?" #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:34 ohxjulie
9:34
@SmilingKIJ Posting prayer requests is a great use of #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:34 anna_r
9:34
@froggent Bye, RobbYYYYYYYY! XOXOXO
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:34 azrork
9:34
RT @azrork: T2b Who are the critics? Is there a generational (or some other) divide? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:34 LuckyCharm333
9:34
@anna_r thanks! I'll participate properly next week :) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:34 widhidana
9:34
T2 - to critics we say yes there are other means of communication, not to be forgotten, this is another way to build community etc #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:34 LeenaPrindle
9:35
With permission, of course! RT @anna_r: @SmilingKIJ Posting prayer requests is a great use of #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:35 azrork
9:35
@azrork #chsocm Some people think the medium is fundamentally incompatible w/message. Usually folks who r afraid of technology.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:35 dianabutlerbass
9:35
#chsocm Music has moved from records to 8 track to tapes to CDs to MP3. Same songs different format. SM? Same message, different modality.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:35 Neeterduck
9:35
@widhidana @anna_r I participate improperly all the time! ;-) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:35 azrork
9:35
T2b Def a generational divide. Tech world moving much too fast for older folks, can be terrifying. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:35 LuckyCharm333
9:35
I also will refer to SM in sermons at times..."I saw this on FB" etc. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:35 SmilingKIJ
9:36
T2b Across generations. Mostly my folks, Boomers, are biggest obstacles. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:36 RevWeb
9:36
@singingcarolyn @azrork Storify! It lets you keep stories that happen. Here's what I've storified: storify.com/theologybird#s… #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:36 theologybird
9:36
T2b: I would say most of those who are resistant in my experience would be those who've been burned by it or "we've never done that" #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:36 nealffischer
9:36
I always make it clear when I ask for requests that they will be read at our worship service. :-) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:36 SmilingKIJ
9:36
@LeenaPrindle Some folks see it as a gimmick rather than true community #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:36 alanrud
9:36
MT @Neeterduck: ...records to 8 track to tapes to CDs to MP3. Same songs different format. SM? Same message, different modality. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:36 LuckyCharm333
9:36
T2b: It's not entirely generational, but I find it's those who think SM is all fluff & have no concept of how deep it can be. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:36 ohxjulie
9:36
Just pausing a moment to say: I love y'all! You've got me laughing! A week ago, I was so discouraged. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:36 azrork
9:36
RT @alanrud: @LeenaPrindle Some folks see it as a gimmick rather than true community #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:36 LuckyCharm333
9:37
@dianabutlerbass @azrork Remember, Paul was the first blogger! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:37 alanrud
9:37
T2b Also there's been lots of publicity over SM gone wrong. Ppl are afraid it'll happen to them/the church. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:37 LuckyCharm333
9:37
Tell stories. Give people concrete examples of how social media is ministry, & how it build community. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:37 rev_david
9:37
T2b: I echo @dianabutlerbass - not necessarily a generational gap, but an uninformed, fearful view of technology. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:37 anna_r
9:37
@Neeterduck And let's be grateful, we don't use 8 track tapes anymore! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:37 revjeffreyt20
9:37
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:37 azrork
9:37
T2b - I agree with @dianabutlerbass critics r often afraid/uneducated abt tech. Also, it is those who prefer face 2 face & phone.. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:37 LeenaPrindle
9:38
T2b I disagree with the generational divide. I think it's more church related. Rejection of technology is rewarded. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:38 youravgpastor
9:38
Right on. RT @rev_david: Tell stories. Give people concrete examples of how social media is ministry, & how it build community. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:38 SmilingKIJ
9:38
T2b: Someone said today, "You can't have a real conversation online!" and I honestly didn't know what to say, it sounded so foreign #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:38 ohxjulie
9:38
@MeredithGould I have a member younger than me who does not use sm let alone email. Anti-technology know no generational bounds #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:38 RevMindi
9:38
@methodistmonk Especially grandparents, which is probably why my teens are mostly ignoring fb. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:38 singingcarolyn
9:38
RT @bfelice: T2 #Chsocm critics are anxious, that fear being left out or a challenge to status quo or hierarchy. Some fear excluding #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:38 theologybird
9:38
Building a site for a church that doesn't know what they would put on FB page. #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:38 pinkpaddler
9:39
T2b Different platforms require different skills & engagement. I think learning style is a more significant variable than age #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 MeredithGould
9:39
Lots of SM critics I know are critical of lots of things. :-/ #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 SmilingKIJ
9:39
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 MeredithGould
9:39
Also, confront either/or thinking. Not social media OR face-to-face, facebook or newsletter, etc ... #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 rev_david
9:39
T2b sometimes the resistance is the pastor/leader in learning a new format #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 methodistmonk
9:39
Wow. I think @youravgpastor is right when he says "Rejection of technology is rewarded." I'd like that in a frame please. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 azrork
9:39
@ohxjulie I agree. I have daily conversations over SM. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 GodtheHealerDev
9:39
@rev_david Great point. It's all about the 'and' =) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 anna_r
9:39
Question is how can this new tech enhance and strengthen the ministry we already have ... not replace it. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 rev_david
9:39
@ohxjulie Probably someone who hasn't invested the time or gotten properly trained/coached about how to use #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 MeredithGould
9:39
Wish I had critics of social media. It would mean people were paying attention. #chsocm (Sorry, joining late.)
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 pastordan
9:39
We fear what we don't understand. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:39 alanrud
9:40
RT @rev_david: Question is how can this new tech enhance and strengthen the ministry we already have ... not replace it. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:40 SmilingKIJ
9:40
RT @rev_david: Also, confront either/or thinking. Not social media OR f2f, fb or newsletter.. /also why ppl get tired #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:40 theologybird
9:40
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:40 bfelice
9:40
RT @alanrud: We fear what we dont understand. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:40 LuckyCharm333
9:40
I believe people reject the things that scare them....Social Media/Technology is intimidating, so people reject it...out of fear. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:40 kdunigan
9:40
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:40 theologybird
9:40
Most of you (especially @rev_david) have anticipated T3, so I'll go ahead and throw that one out there.... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:40 azrork
9:40
RT @pastordan: Wish I had critics of social media. It would mean people were paying attention. // True. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:40 paulsteinbrueck
9:40
T3 How do you encourage the skeptical or those less involved to participate in your #chsocm community?
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:40 azrork
9:41
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:41 anna_r
9:41
I don't think ppl fear the "new" as much as they fear the loss of the old. @dianabutlerbass #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:41 rev_david
9:41
RT @azrork: T3 How do you encourage the skeptical or those less involved to participate in your #chsocm community? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:41 LuckyCharm333
9:41
@LuckyCharm333 The church exacerbates an 'us vs. world' mentality. It makes rejection of technology socially acceptable. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:41 youravgpastor
9:41
A3: Show them the good that's there. Literally bring the laptop over to show them a pic, for instance. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:41 SmilingKIJ
9:41
@alanrud People also fear losing control & u can't control #sm like u can control mass media & the pulpit. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:41 paulsteinbrueck
9:42
@azrork u can't encourage. They need to embrace it. Or they should leave it alone. I advise Pastors that they need to be 'all in' #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:42 Stevefogg
9:42
RT @azrork: T3 How do you encourage the skeptical or those less involved to participate in your #chsocm community? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:42 nealffischer
9:42
T3 sometimes it has to come from someone they trust. A friend connected to social media willing to take them along #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:42 methodistmonk
9:42
@azrork T3: train them. Give them the knowledge that dispels the fear of the unknown. Show them value in building community online #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:42 anna_r
9:42
T3 I tell stories about how #chsocm has worked in my life & life of faith. Provide examples of community & connection.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:42 MeredithGould
9:42
T3 - Offer social media training. A Sunday school class: "How to use Facebook to keep in touch with your grandkids" #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:42 rev_david
9:42
RT @rev_david: I don't think ppl fear the "new" as much as they fear the loss of the old. //Hmmm!!! You might have something there! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:42 LuckyCharm333
9:42
RT @paulsteinbrueck: @alanrud People also fear losing control & u cant control #sm like u can control mass media & the pulpit./truth #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:42 theologybird
9:42
T3: By asking them to join in and educate through one on one training. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:42 alanrud
9:42
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:42 rev_david
9:43
.@azrork Joining late. #Chsocm T3: Sometimes numbers do the trick. F'book reach. Or example of cultivating imptnt r'ships on twitter.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:43 JimNaught
9:43
T3: Lead by example. I have found getting family of those people involved in #chsocm helps. (cont.) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:43 nealffischer
9:43
If social media doesn't come naturally then leaders & pastors should stay off until it they 'get it' #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:43 Stevefogg
9:43
My pastor is "all in" theoretically. Just doesn't want to participate! RT @Stevefogg: I advise Pastors that they need to be 'all in' #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:43 azrork
9:44
@azrork T3: I'm considering making fun of non #sm users by name so they feel compelled to engaged & clear their name. ;) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:44 paulsteinbrueck
9:44
@youravgpastor "The church exacerbates an 'us vs. world' mentality. It makes rejection of technology socially acceptable." //Ouch! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:44 LuckyCharm333
9:44
RT @kdunigan: .@rev_david We need to get it figured out...or the millennials will drift out the door! //or not come in #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:44 revjeffreyt20
9:44
T3 I ask questions about how they learn, how they prefer to interact & use that info to suggest a #chsocm platform that would work well.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:44 MeredithGould
9:44
T2b: I think the opposition from any age. comes from viewpoint of what is “really” church and what is a hobby and distraction. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:44 froggent
9:44
#chsocm Maybe we can get FB reach & tweets count on parochial reports?
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:44 dianabutlerbass
9:44
enjoys being a voyeur to #chsocm conversations on Tuesday evenings.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:44 kathryn_lohre
9:44
T3 cont. - I have seen more people who've been away following my wife's cong. FB page and her sermon blog - start showing up. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:44 nealffischer
9:44
RT @paulsteinbrueck: @alanrud People also fear losing control & u cant control #sm like u can control mass media & the pulpit. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:44 LuckyCharm333
9:44
@dianabutlerbass Really hope you're being facetious there. That's a *terrible* metric. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:44 pastordan
9:45
RT @dianabutlerbass: #ChSocM Maybe we can get FB reach & tweets count on parochial reports? // I like it. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:45 rev_david
9:45
@MeredithGould How they learn...you mean textual vs visual or something? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:45 azrork
9:45
@revmamd check out the #chsocm conversation tonight. Especially question 2 about dealing with critics. Some solid info there.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:45 adamwc
9:45
#chsocm not just lack of training or experience as barrier, I think it's a translation issue, SM jargon v. communicating theologically
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:45 bfelice
9:45
@azrork They can learn, but they have to want to do #chsocm you can't sell in the benefits. If that is their reason then motives r wrong
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:45 Stevefogg
9:45
@azrork T3: Seriously tho, best solution is 2 hv gr8 community & convos in #sm so ppl feel like theyre missing out & want to join in #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:45 paulsteinbrueck
9:45
T3 When parishioners talk about finding info on fb or twitter, other parishioners may want in. Others not. That's OK. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:45 RevWeb
9:46
@azrork Yes: visual, auditory, kinesthetic. Those differences will help determine which social media platform will be appealing #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:46 MeredithGould
9:46
T3: A good entrée into SM is getting people to sign up for assemblies/conventions & see how conversation there works #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:46 ohxjulie
9:46
@paulsteinbrueck Hahaha! That will work. For sure! ;-) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:46 azrork
9:46
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:46 Stevefogg
9:46
T3: My fave is to break out my phone,tablet,laptop & show critics real SM. Show them how it works then let them decide from there. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:46 LeenaPrindle
9:46
RT @RevWeb: T3 When parishioners talk about finding info on fb or twitter, other parishioners may want in. Others not. Thats OK. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:46 nealffischer
9:46
I've started adding them to my ministry reports. RT @dianabutlerbass: #chsocm Maybe we can get FB reach & tweets count on parochial reports?
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:46 azrork
9:47
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:47 azrork
9:47
I love the "How did you hear about that?" "It was on Facebook" convos between my members. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:47 rev_david
9:47
T3: Also, you can't act like they aren't being faithful if they're not using SM. That turns them even more against it. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:47 ohxjulie
9:47
T3 social media grows similar to relationships, slowly and over time. Don't worry about being big right away. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:47 methodistmonk
9:47
I'm not a tech triumphalist. SM works for some, not all. More important to ask *what* you have to say than *how* you have to say it. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:47 pastordan
9:47
MT @MeredithGould: @azrork Yes: visual, auditory, kinesthetic/differences will help findwhich social media platform will appeal #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:47 nealffischer
9:47
RT @ohxjulie: T3: Also, you cant act like they arent being faithful if theyre not using SM. That turns them even more against it. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:47 SmilingKIJ
9:47
RT @ohxjulie: T3: Also, you cant act like they arent being faithful if theyre not using SM. That turns them even more against it. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:47 LuckyCharm333
9:48
We're getting close to the end of our time, but I'm curious about responses for this next one... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:48 azrork
9:48
@methodistmonk I'd say don't worry about "being big" at all. Turning #chsocm into a numbers game undermines the community building aspect.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:48 MeredithGould
9:48
@theologybird Longer than going door to door or mailing out postcards or something? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:48 LuckyCharm333
9:48
RT @LeenaPrindle: T3: My fave is to break out my phone,tablet,laptop & show real SM. Show them how it works then let them decide #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:48 theologybird
9:49
T4 Any church educators ever offered classes dealing with social media? Approach? Topics? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:49 azrork
9:49
.@Stevefogg @azrork I don't have a prob showing people they can reach a wider audience as a means of getting them interested. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:49 JimNaught
9:49
T3: A while back I quoted someone on twitter & told them about it & they signed up so they could see it. Now they tweet sometimes. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:49 ohxjulie
9:49
RT @azrork: T4 Any church educators ever offered classes dealing with social media? Approach? Topics? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:49 nealffischer
9:49
@SmilingKIJ @dianabutlerbass I wrote a #chsocm report for our annual mtg. Those who don't do sm thought it way cooler than it actually is.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:49 singingcarolyn
9:49
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:49 MeredithGould
9:50
@LuckyCharm333 at least with mailings there's a thing to hold. My twitter stream? Kinda ephemeral. #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:50 theologybird
9:50
A4: I will. Each class will have a different platform so ppl can choose the ones that interest them. Pinterest is a mystery to some. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:50 SmilingKIJ
9:50
As an educator educator, SM is the enemy. Students get bored, start checking FB, text messages during class. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:50 pastordan
9:50
RT @MeredithGould: @methodistmonk Turning #chsocm into a numbers game undermines the community building aspect. / Small is sometimes better.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:50 GodtheHealerDev
9:51
So lesson one from me would be: boundaries! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:51 pastordan
9:51
T4 I like to start w/framework for thinking strategically, defining audience & learning style before I get to hands-on training #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:51 MeredithGould
9:51
@singingcarolyn I've mentioned the numbers at council & in convo, but never on a report. I might someday tho. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:51 SmilingKIJ
9:51
T4 #chsocm All the time. Hands-on: see it do it. Webinars. Forums. Monthly get-togethers. Intensive workshops. Theory and practice.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:51 bfelice
9:51
@LuckyCharm333 also easier for ppl to dismiss those who don't respond to a mailing than for them to try to also engage our fb page #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:51 theologybird
9:51
@theologybird I musta misunderstood. How long to reach 1000 ppl w/a mailing vs. SM? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:51 LuckyCharm333
9:51
T4 social media is an experiential thing, I think the best learning comes from doing, maybe with the help of others? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:51 methodistmonk
9:51
T4: Never assume that everyone knows the names/uses of each platform. I spend a few minutes doing overview of platforms. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:51 ohxjulie
9:52
T4 I have in many settings. Topics & Approach depend on audience and amount of time. Hands on is always best. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 rev_david
9:52
T4: Yes, I have done a simple intro to the different options. Discuss basic ideas and ask them to have a plan. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 nealffischer
9:52
@pastordan What if you invited them to share what's going on in the class? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 MeredithGould
9:52
@ohxjulie The excuses we make to cover up our fears. #chsocm And using scripture to mask that fear.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 youravgpastor
9:52
Yes! MT @methodistmonk: T4 AM is an experiential thing, I think the best learning comes from doing, maybe with the help of others? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 SmilingKIJ
9:52
T4 Our CE director says there have been problems w/youth being disrespectful to teachers, etc. w/SM. Opportunity for education! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 azrork
9:52
T4 Do it all the time across the country. Some listen. Some see it as novelty. But many have begun to use it. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 RevWeb
9:52
T4 - Hands on is the approach we will be taking at @DiscipleProj this summer. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 rev_david
9:52
@MeredithGould T4: Hmm, I've see that somewhere before... framework before strategy... in a book somewhere. ;) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 paulsteinbrueck
9:52
T4 - we are a smaller congregation at @LakeCityPres but there was an iPad small group at one point #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 LeenaPrindle
9:52
@azrork T4: I encourage the congregations I coach to do just that - dedicate an adult forum hour to teach a few basics! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 anna_r
9:52
@MeredithGould It would embarrass them and solve the problem for that day. Next time, they'd be back at it. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:52 pastordan
9:53
(Ducking out. Great chat tonight, @azrork. Thanks!) #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:53 rev_david
9:53
T4 And I agree -- classes for ALL ages! We have a parenting class @FPCGV. SM would be a great topic. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:53 azrork
9:53
@theologybird Right, but you have to make 1st contact somehow. Yes, engagement must still ensue... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:53 LuckyCharm333
9:53
@azrork also if being disrespectful on sm, then it's happening elsewhere, just seeing it there #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:53 theologybird
9:53
@MeredithGould It's really the flip side of them living and breathing SM. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:53 pastordan
9:54
@pastordan I'm not suggesting do that to shame them but to get them to use the tech to engage about what's going on in class #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:54 MeredithGould
9:54
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:54 azrork
9:54
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:54 azrork
9:54
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:54 azrork
9:54
@MeredithGould Then they'd have to pay attention to class! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:54 pastordan
9:54
@azrork yes... educate Teacher SM integration and education youth to respect the teachers (explain why & give examples both sides). #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:54 LeenaPrindle
9:55
. @pastordan I also think anyone preaching ought to invite congregants to tweets/text/post during the sermon. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:55 MeredithGould
9:55
@LuckyCharm333 anymore we ought to make first contact in many ways #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:55 theologybird
9:55
RT @PhilCooke: Pastors, just to be clear: If you can’t preach, social media won’t help. // yes! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:55 Stevefogg
9:55
RT @MeredithGould: . @pastordan I also think anyone preaching ought to invite congregants to tweets/text/post during the sermon. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:55 LuckyCharm333
9:56
Yes. RT @MeredithGould: @pastordan I also think anyone preaching ought to invite congregants to tweets/text/post during the sermon #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:56 anna_r
9:56
@MeredithGould Disagree, strongly. Not because what preacher has to say is so important, but there's value in being disconnected. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:56 pastordan
9:56
We’re close to the hour. Any final thoughts you’d like to share? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:56 azrork
9:56
@pastordan I'm a visual-kinesthetic learner, so tweeting during worship helps me hear & absorb the preaching. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:56 MeredithGould
9:57
#chSocM Got in late. Sorry I missed so much, the answers were interesting. I wish I knew the questions.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:57 FatPastor
9:57
#chsocm final thoughts: If you're going to use social media to build community, contribute more than you take.
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:57 MeredithGould
9:57
@rev_david @dianabutlerbass told my session that we reached 3,500 folks. They were impressed. Not sure in means anything but 1/2 #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:57 ggbolt16
9:57
@MeredithGould @pastordan And to me, there's no difference in jotting down a thought to paper or to Twitter. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:57 azrork
9:58
@MeredithGould @pastordan I wrote a blog post on that once but I have to find it #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 alanrud
9:58
Would like to see us address, sometime, what it says about a cong that does not wish to grow, via SM or otherwise? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 LuckyCharm333
9:58
RT @ggbolt16: @rev_david @dianabutlerbass to the noobie it was an impressive number. 2/2 #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 ggbolt16
9:58
@MeredithGould @pastordan tweeting during live events also brings in community from people who aren't there. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 methodistmonk
9:58
@MeredithGould That's a bit different. I have no problem with people scribbling, playing with the bulletin, etc. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 pastordan
9:58
@froggent So you'll help me, right?!?! :-) #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 azrork
9:58
RT @azrork: @MeredithGould @pastordan And to me, theres no difference in jotting down a thought to paper or to Twitter. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 LuckyCharm333
9:58
@MeredithGould That describes my learning. How is it different than hand notes? @pastordan #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 froggent
9:58
RT @methodistmonk: @MeredithGould @pastordan tweeting during live events also brings in community from people who arent there. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 LuckyCharm333
9:58
@YouthCartel has an excellent book out "Social Media for Parents" by @mclanea .Simple read and great for church educators as well! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 LeenaPrindle
9:58
@pastordan Futzing w/my smartphone is the same thing as scribbling for me. 21st century! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 MeredithGould
9:58
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:58 froggent
9:59
RT @MeredithGould: #chsocm final thoughts: If youre going to use social media to build community, contribute more than you take. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 nealffischer
9:59
@PhilCooke @Stevefogg I disagree. Some pastors may not b gr8 at preaching, but r gr8 @ shepparding. #sm is good 4 that. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 paulsteinbrueck
9:59
@MeredithGould @pastordan Some1 asked how I can tweet during sermons/presentations. I said it's like taking notes. Lightbulb moment. #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 ohxjulie
9:59
Must go for now. 'Night all! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 SmilingKIJ
9:59
@MeredithGould But I think SM/electronics take us out of the moment. Worship should invite us to stay in it, no interruptions. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 pastordan
9:59
Thank you all for participating.... #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 azrork
9:59
Coming up on the hour, we conclude with this prayer from Compline: #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 azrork
9:59
@pastordan: @MeredithGould I have no problem with people scribbling, playing with the bulletin/ that's what tweeting is to me #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 theologybird
9:59
T4:@YouthCartel has excellent book out "Social Media for Parents" by @mclanea .Simple read and great for church educators as well! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 LeenaPrindle
9:59
Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 azrork
9:59
Don't be hater of tech savvy folks and of non tech savvy folks #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 alanrud
9:59
RT @azrork: Coming up on the hour, we conclude with this prayer from Compline: #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 9:59 LuckyCharm333
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Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:00 azrork
10:00
RT @azrork: Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:00 LuckyCharm333
10:00
#ChSocM When I compose a FB status, it can be shared and seen by 10,000+ people. The most people I've ever preached in front of is about 300
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:00 FatPastor
10:00
The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on churchsocmed.blogspot.com within a few hours. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:00 azrork
10:00
@MeredithGould Absolutely. I'm just saying I wouldn't encourage it. It's not like I'd tell you to put the cell phone away. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:00 pastordan
10:00
@azrork Thanks for moderating! Fabulous chat. So glad you're on the roster for this! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:00 MeredithGould
10:00
@GodtheHealerDev @MeredithGould @pastordan I can own/become part of the sermon by preaching it out as I interpret it thru tweets. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:00 benvonullrich
10:00
Subscribe to our blog & you’ll receive transcripts automagically. churchsocmed.blogspot.com . #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:00 azrork
10:00
@LuckyCharm333 @azrork @MeredithGould @pastordan Our minister explained to cong. that people w/phones out are often taking notes! #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:00 kdunigan
10:00
RT @alanrud: Dont be hater of tech savvy folks and of non tech savvy folks //Nobody's hating, that I see? #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:00 LuckyCharm333
10:01
RT @azrork: Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace #Chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:01 theologybird
10:01
We’re at the hour. Thanks to all for your contributions & insights. Join us again, next Tuesday @9pm ET. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:01 azrork
10:01
T2: stated clerk told me as I tweeted my installation. “God never sent a tweet, so I don’t see the point.” Kinda hurt, stayed quiet #ChSocM
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:01 ggbolt16
10:01
T3 Lead by example. Former dean of @mySSW told me I was his catalyst for using/backing SM since we're same age. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:01 RevWeb
10:01
The #chsocm tweetchat is formally over for this evening, but anyone is welcome to continue chatting. #PBWY
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:01 azrork
10:01
Love social media! Watching friends on #chsocm @kdunigan in Indiana and @anna_r my favorite blogger friend from MN chatting. Hi ladies! :)
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:01 KYKlips
10:01
Thank you @azrork for a delightful #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:01 bfelice
10:01
@azrork Thank you for leading. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:01 froggent
10:02
@ggbolt16 God never drove a car or made a phone call, either. We still do those. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:02 LuckyCharm333
10:02
@ggbolt16 next time you tell the clerk every one of the Beatitudes are tweetable. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:02 nealffischer
10:02
RT @bfelice: Thank you @azrork for a delightful #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:02 LuckyCharm333
10:02
RT @nealffischer: @ggbolt16 next time you tell the clerk every one of the Beatitudes are tweetable. #chsocm
Tuesday April 23, 2013 10:02 LuckyCharm333
 
 


The topics: 
T1 If a new ministry were considering #chsocm, what advice would you give them?
T1b: Do you think there are ministries/churches that would NOT benefit from #chsocm?
T2 Do most in your church support faith/community building via SM? How do you answer the critics of #chsocm?
T2b Who are the critics? Is there a generational (or some other) divide?
T3 How do you encourage the skeptical or those on the fringes to participate in your #chsocm community? T4 Any church educators offered classes dealing with social media? Approach? Topics?

This week's chat moderated by Amy Rork (@azrork)

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