Tuesday, August 21, 2012

#ChSocM Tweetchat: August 21, 2012

This week's chat: a conversation we cannot have too many times 
about "safe use" policies, especially for children and youth.

 ChSocM 08/21/12(08/21/2012) 
9:00
Welcome to our weekly church and social media (#chsocm) chat, especially those joining in for the first time. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:00 AnjWiley
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Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:01 rev_david
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@alanrud Really, instead of 404, it should be 666 messages. @rev_david #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:01 MeredithGould
9:02
@MeredithGould That is a production esp. if you make the mayo! <---always!
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:02 AnjWiley
9:02
Ok, I am getting nothing on Tweetdeck or Tweetchat. Is it just me?? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:02 MeredithGould
9:02
If this is your first tweetchat ever, please don’t get discouraged by the pace! Ask if you need help. We’re a friendly group. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:02 AnjWiley
9:02
Friends, I’ll be blowing up your stream with #ChSocM for the next hour. Mute away!
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:02 azrork
9:03
Never mind. Stuff coming through now. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:03 MeredithGould
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We’ll get started in a minute with self-introductions, but as ever, we start with prayer. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:03 AnjWiley
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@MeredithGould tweetdeck is oddly working for me tonight. #Chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:03 MetroMonk
9:04
RT @AnjWiley: Welcome to our weekly church and social media (#chsocm) chat, especially those joining in for the first time. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:04 azrork
9:04
@MeredithGould I'm not getting anything either #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:04 JealaineMarple
9:04
Take cover, tweeps. Here comes an onslaught of #GetRealChat & #ChSocM tweets over the next hour. :)
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:04 paulsteinbrueck
9:04
Almighty & merciful God, we rejoice in your abiding presence everywhere & your mercy at all times. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:04 AnjWiley
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Love it. RT @paulsteinbrueck: Take cover, tweeps. Here comes onslaught of #GetRealChat & #ChSocM tweets over the next hour. :)
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:05 mstribling
9:05
RT @AnjWiley: Almighty & merciful God, we rejoice in your abiding presence everywhere & your mercy at all times. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:05 MeredithGould
9:05
Tweetchat seems to be a bit slow tonight so bear with us! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:05 AnjWiley
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RT @AnjWiley: Almighty & merciful God, we rejoice in your abiding presence everywhere & your mercy at all times. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:05 MetroMonk
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@JealaineMarple They are coming thru slowly but surely!
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:06 AnjWiley
9:06
Feel free to mute me for the next hour as I participate in the weekly #chsocm chat. Or hey, join us.
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:06 JealaineMarple
9:06
We give thanks for this & every opportunity to share experience & inquiry anchored in faith. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:06 AnjWiley
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We ask your Holy Spirit to inspire tonight’s conversation & guide us as we move forward in love & service. Amen. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:06 AnjWiley
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Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:07 RevWeb
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Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:07 MeredithGould
9:07
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:07 reckshow
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Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:07 edkay77
9:07
Next up: self-introductions. In addition to your church affiliation, please let everyone how you currently use social media #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:07 AnjWiley
9:09
@MetroMonk @MeredithGould Lots of people tweeting about @TweetDeck problems today. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:09 mirgray
9:09
#Episcopal priest in Baltimore. Using SM to build community, spread Good News, share faith stories. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:09 RevWeb
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<--ELCA seminary admissions rep. (Wartburg) Use SM to connect with current/potential students &to follow epic things like @rev_david #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:09 JealaineMarple
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Amy Rork, #chsocm volunteer with @FPCGV, #PCUSA in Grapevine, TX. We FB, Tweet, Instagram & Pinterest in an effort to connect and reach out.
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:09 azrork
9:09
<--Dir. of Communications, @UpstateNYSynod ELCA. Google+, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, eMail newsletters and LinkedIn #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:09 nealffischer
9:10
<--author, sociologist, digital strategy & communications consulting, gadfly, smitten w/social media for community building #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:10 MeredithGould
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David: Lutheran pastor, social media gadfly. I'm lurking - yes that's right, lurking - tonight while on the #roadtripofawesome. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:10 rev_david
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@AnjWiley Founder & CEO of @OurChurchDotCom, blogger, comm helper at a CMA church in Clearwater, FL #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:10 paulsteinbrueck
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Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:10 thecatholiccoup
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matt. umc pastor in Indy. use sm daily in ministry & life. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:10 mattlipan
9:10
@JealaineMarple So, @rev_david is an epic "thing"?? Good to know! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:10 MeredithGould
9:11
Metro here, not affiliated anymore. Looking though. Use SM to facilitate relationships & connect. Christ is the hope of the world #Chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:11 MetroMonk
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@chsocm Miranda, lay Canadian Lutheran who is helping youth group start their #fb page next week. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:11 mirgray
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<--Working in Catholic communications, interested in how people communicate #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:11 AnjWiley
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Stewardship educator, UM laity in Alaska, use SM for work, play, and everything in between. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:11 ofredrick
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@MeredithGould @rev_david ... he participates in epic "things." I can only pray to be so cool. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:11 JealaineMarple
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Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:11 azrork
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►ABC-USA pastor, author, blogger. Use SM to connect, meet new folk, share ideas. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:12 alanrud
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@rev_david You will not be marked absent! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:12 AnjWiley
9:12
i arecently moved From GV to Keller @azrork #smallworld #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:12 skwechter
9:12
(also multi-tasking tonight.) #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:12 reckshow
9:13
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:13 alanrud
9:13
Housekeeping Tweets: We will assume tweets during this chat yours & do not represent your church or organization #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:13 AnjWiley
9:13
@MeredithGould hmm, it seems twitter doesn't like my blackberry symbols. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:13 alanrud
9:13
Kindly remember we’re here to share with & support one another. Please use DM or email to pitch products/services #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:13 AnjWiley
9:14
@alanrud "Praise Him on the cymbals, Praise Him on the high-sounding cymbals" just popped into my head. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:14 MeredithGould
9:14
@ELCA pastor in the DE-MD Synod office, using SM for just about everything ministry related #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:14 edkay77
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Me too except that i dont work in a Catholic ministry. RT @AnjWiley: <--Working in Catholic..., interested in how people communicate #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:14 MetroMonk
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im a #catholic blogger that encourages ppl to save money so they can donate food to the church and im #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:14 thecatholiccoup
9:14
ABC-USA pastor, author, blogger. Use SM to connect, meet new folk, share ideas #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:14 alanrud
9:15
helping to put on a QR Code scavenger hunt at our mission grounds!! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:15 thecatholiccoup
9:15
If you didn't see any of my tweets today: I am moderating this chat. That concludes housekeeping. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:15 AnjWiley
9:16
Jumping in late, w/a wonky connection, use SM to spread & learn new ideas. Episcopalian. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:16 LuckyCharm333
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Just me, fashionably late for the #chsocm chat. Me: Papa. Geek. Lutheran. Primary steward for @ChristianWebRes
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:16 skenow
9:16
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:16 AnjWiley
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Very very cool. RT @thecatholiccoup: helping to put on a QR Code scavenger hunt at our mission grounds!! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:16 mirgray
9:18
@LuckyCharm333 that word, "wonky" is so wonky. ;) #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:18 alanrud
9:19
Want to know which #chsocm chat was the best? The next one
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:19 skenow
9:19
@alanrud I got it from Foursquare, LOL! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:19 LuckyCharm333
9:19
Tonight we’re chatting about developing boundaries for technology use #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:19 AnjWiley
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RT @AnjWiley: Tonight we’re chatting about developing boundaries for technology use #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:20 MeredithGould
9:20
RT @AnjWiley: Tonight we’re chatting about developing boundaries for technology use #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:20 LuckyCharm333
9:20
Speaking of wonky both twitter and tweetchat r slow for me #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:20 skwechter
9:20
T1 What elements must be included in a ministry safe use policy? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:20 AnjWiley
9:20
RT @AnjWiley: T1 What elements must be included in a ministry safe use policy? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:20 MeredithGould
9:20
@KatieKolodzy it's a twitter chat about the church and social media :) #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:20 thecatholiccoup
9:20
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:20 skenow
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RT @AnjWiley: Tonight we’re chatting about developing boundaries for technology use #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:21 paulsteinbrueck
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@MeriannaNeely likewise. #chsocm is a great community, very helpful too. Are you in church and/or ministry?
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:21 MetroMonk
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RT @skwechter: Speaking of wonky both twitter and tweetchat r slow for me //Same here! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:21 LuckyCharm333
9:21
T1 Elements that protect congregants as well as clergy & other church workers. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:21 MeredithGould
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RT @AnjWiley: Tonight we’re chatting about developing boundaries for technology use #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:21 ChristianWebRes
9:21
RT @MeredithGould: T1 Elements that protect congregants as well as clergy & other church workers. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:21 reckshow
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T1: elements that are clear, well thought, and not left to interpretation. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:22 JealaineMarple
9:22
T1 Not sure I understand the question... #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:22 LuckyCharm333
9:22
RT @AnjWiley: T1 What elements must be included in a ministry safe use policy? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:22 ChristianWebRes
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T1-Take all best practices from IRL communications and apply to SM. No triangulation. If you dont want it quoted, dont say it. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:23 RevWeb
9:23
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:23 MeredithGould
9:23
@AnjWiley T1: What is a "ministry safe use policy?" 1st time hearing that term. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:23 paulsteinbrueck
9:24
@AnjWiley A1. Another denomination here in Canada released "Holy manners" for conference behaviour. Need something similiar in SM. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:24 mirgray
9:24
But at the same time, develop a policy that is best for YOUR context. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:24 JealaineMarple
9:24
MT @RevWeb: T1-Take all best practices from IRL communications and apply to SM. ... If you dont want it quoted, dont say it. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:24 LuckyCharm333
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T1: Most important policy element: written, approved and widely distributed! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:24 ofredrick
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RT @ofredrick: T1: Most important policy element: written, approved and widely distributed! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:24 MeredithGould
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T1: clear and protective of the Children in community -- outreach #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:25 WorldMedCard
9:25
T1 - basic do and do nots - do be transparent - do be accurate - don't reveal confidential info #chsocm #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:25 nealffischer
9:25
@AnjWiley T1 social media safe use elements for anyone include purpose, pattern and policy #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:25 skenow
9:25
T1 A policy that includes clear sanctions & describes/explains how they'll be enforced. Otherwise, it's just blah blah #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:25 MeredithGould
9:25
Pls let ud differentiate between policyand guidelines! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:25 skwechter
9:26
@skwechter How would you distinguish between a policy and guidelines? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:26 MeredithGould
9:26
T1-Discussed this very thing w/senior staff today. Need a clergy HR policy for SM use. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:26 RevWeb
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RT @RevWeb: T1-Discussed this very thing w/senior staff today. Need a clergy HR policy for SM use. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:26 reckshow
9:27
yes who has HR ? RT @RevWeb: T1-Discussed this very thing w/senior staff today. Need a clergy HR policy for SM use. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:27 WorldMedCard
9:27
@MeriannaNeely So, it's rules for what staff are allowed to do on social media? #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:27 paulsteinbrueck
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@MeredithGould is that what we need or do we need to help congregants understand who they are and who they are called to be. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:27 MeriannaNeely
9:27
@MeredithGould So did you see my peeve? Policies that exist in meeting minutes on someone's (not sure who's) computer. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:27 ofredrick
9:27
T1 Frankly, I'd like to see churches get clear about when to call civil authorities when something dangerous/illegal has happened. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:27 MeredithGould
9:27
T1: clear expectations of use & clear responsibility of use. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:27 mattlipan
9:27
For me policy is fireable. Guidelines are roadmaps. #chsocm #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:27 nealffischer
9:27
T1: we are talking about a child protection policy, right? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:27 alanrud
9:28
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:28 MeredithGould
9:28
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:28 MeredithGould
9:28
@paulsteinbrueck How staff use technology to communicate with their ministries #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:28 AnjWiley
9:28
@chsocm A1. Discussion on what is personal & what is institutional. Guidelines on what will happen when staff leave community. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:28 mirgray
9:28
T1: Social media is defined by society in real time, if we bound it then growth is omitted ? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:28 WorldMedCard
9:29
I find most social media policies are written by people who do not use/understand social media. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:29 rev_david
9:29
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:29 MeredithGould
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@AnjWiley T1: Here's my view... Does Your Organization Need a Social Media Policy? - occ.tc/qh8H9H #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:29 paulsteinbrueck
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RT @rev_david: I find most social media policies are written by people who do not use/understand social media.//Too true, alas. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:29 MeredithGould
9:29
RT @rev_david: I find most social media policies are written by people who do not use/understand social media.//Amen!! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:29 JealaineMarple
9:29
RT @mirgray: T1. Discussion on what is personal & what is institutional. Guidelines on what will happen when staff leave community. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:29 mattlipan
9:29
@MeredithGould are we as the church the social media police? #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:29 MeriannaNeely
9:30
@MeredithGould Policy uses "must" or "shall". Guidelines use "may" and "should". #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:30 mirgray
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@alanrud Children, vulnerable adults and beyond. Need policy for all, but they may be different. Some are governed by law. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:30 ofredrick
9:30
Discussion is leading to T2: How do those elements change for youth & teens? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:30 AnjWiley
9:30
What about a broader scope? Safety for families on social media #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:30 skenow
9:30
@MeridithGould - bound as in define limits.. that deters organic growth (in some cases) #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:30 WorldMedCard
9:30
@paulsteinbrueck I was just about to say the exact same thing! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:30 rev_david
9:31
@MeriannaNeely No, we have a moral, ethical obligation to protect children & youth, as well as our adults from attack. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:31 MeredithGould
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@MeredithGould @rev_david Oh, you mean like no Episcopal bishops tweeting during House of Bishops meetings? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:31 RevWeb
9:31
@paulsteinbrueck @MeriannaNeely It can include non-staff members too. And likely should. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:31 mirgray
9:31
RT @skwechter: @MeredithGould #chsocm guidelines are best practices. Policy is something I must follow.#chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:31 MeredithGould
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@paulsteinbrueck Some are driven by stupid clergy posting stupid stuff they'd never say IRL. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:31 RevWeb
9:31
RT @paulsteinbrueck @rev_david I also find most social media policies are driven by fear. #chsocm // yup. 1 John 4:18
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:31 rev_david
9:32
@skwechter I'm all for setting policies regarding #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:32 MeredithGould
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T2: I find this a difficult question as SM does not pay attention to state/country borders. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:32 JealaineMarple
9:32
RT @paulsteinbrueck: @rev_david I also find most social media policies are driven by fear. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:32 skwechter
9:32
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:32 MeredithGould
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@paulsteinbrueck I think some boundaries in the form of guidance & education need to be in place esp with youth. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:32 AnjWiley
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RT @AnjWiley: Discussion is leading to T2: How do those elements change for youth & teens? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:33 JealaineMarple
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RT @JealaineMarple: RT @AnjWiley: Discussion is leading to T2: How do those elements change for youth & teens? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:33 MeredithGould
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t2: i wonder if there is danger in differing policies or approaches of sm engagement based upon age? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:33 mattlipan
9:33
@paulsteinbrueck @AnjWiley #chsocm yeah, I'm confused on this line of topic.
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:33 alanrud
9:34
T2 Teens/Youth-No names when we post unless in public leadership pos. like Pres. of the Youth Org. They know we can post name then. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:34 nealffischer
9:34
For people outside of "repercussions," guidelines should be a covenant. Great for youth and young adults as it defines expectations. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:34 ofredrick
9:34
Can you elaborate Steve? RT @skenow: What about a broader scope? Safety for families on social media #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:34 AnjWiley
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@mattlipan That's interesting. So then no greater obligation to protect children and teens? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:34 MeredithGould
9:34
RE: T2 - analytic data will yield the answer and with social Media online there is tons ! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:34 WorldMedCard
9:34
T2 - Yes to specific policies protecting youth/children. Otherwise, I lean toward guidelines & best practices. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:34 rev_david
9:34
@mattlipan Not arguing, BTW, just curious #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:34 MeredithGould
9:35
@MeredithGould to the best of our ability, but we can't control Social Media or all the users #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:35 MeriannaNeely
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@AnjWiley I know some schools have policies that teachers can't friend students but I don't know how u cud lead student min that way #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:35 paulsteinbrueck
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Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:35 MeredithGould
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@MeriannaNeely Guidelines also can free people to use when they set expectations. Clarifies the "may I use social media" question. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:35 mirgray
9:35
@MeredithGould i wonder if obligation is not age-specific? i guess wondering why our sm engagement would need to be age appropriate? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:35 mattlipan
9:36
#Chsocm SM is an open source community and Im not sure how much policing and protecting can happen. I think Opel participate or just don't.
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:36 MetroMonk
9:36
@mirgray Clarity creates a "safe container." Psych 101. Very useful! @MeriannaNeely #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:36 MeredithGould
9:37
@paulsteinbrueck Some parishes/denoms also saying clergy cannot accept friending from congregants/youth/etc. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:37 RevWeb
9:37
and we all realize that setting a guideline, there are those who will "color outside the lines" =)) #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:37 WorldMedCard
9:37
"opel" was supposed to read "ppl" blast my large thumbs... #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:37 MetroMonk
9:37
T2: Former privacy policies for youth are no longer valid. Youth today expect little in SM privacy. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:37 ofredrick
9:37
T2: We have a separate policy regarding use of likeness of kids and teens. We try hard to communicate it to all members. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:37 azrork
9:38
T1 & 2 I wonder if guidelines are different at different levels, e.g., local church v. diocese/synod/session? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:38 MeredithGould
9:38
@RevWeb Really? Do you know who? I would find ministry in this day and age hard with those limitations. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:38 edkay77
9:38
@azrork Are any of those policies online? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:38 edkay77
9:38
@MeriannaNeely @mirgray is the separation for safety or bc kids don't want others to know they go to church? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:38 MetroMonk
9:39
@ofredrick But their parents may expect privacy. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:39 azrork
9:39
@RevWeb @paulsteinbrueck That is the challenge since thats how youth & their parents communicate. So how do we work with it? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:39 AnjWiley
9:39
@AnjWiley A2 I am not sure policy changes. But the need to train and forgive errors from non-staff more important. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:39 mirgray
9:39
@AnjWiley We've done the corporate policy chat - the basic atomic unit is the family. What rules should parents follow/enforce? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:39 skenow
9:40
t2: does age change the "appropriateness" of sm engagement for a ministry? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:40 mattlipan
9:40
@ofredrick Do we let youth set privacy standards or hold them to safe church/higher standard? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:40 RevWeb
9:40
@edkay77 No, but we distribute/ask for signatures on them at events. I could send it to you if you’re curious. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:40 azrork
9:40
@azrork That's unrealistic unless they ban their kids from all use of SM. Some do. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:40 ofredrick
9:40
RT @skenow: Weve done the corporate policy chat - the basic atomic unit is the family. What rules should parents follow/enforce? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:40 AnjWiley
9:41
agreed RT @mirgray: @AnjWiley A2 I am not sure policy changes. But need to train & forgive errors of non-staff more important. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:41 WorldMedCard
9:41
@azrork I would be - just followed you if you would follow back, I'll DM you my email. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:41 edkay77
9:41
@ofredrick No - I mean their parents may not want us using their pictures on church SM sites. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:41 azrork
9:41
@MetroMonk We're in the same state, but not neighbors. I go to @GWUSOD #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:41 MeriannaNeely
9:41
@skenow As a parent, I have lots of rules. I have a cell phone in my possession right now! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:41 AnjWiley
9:41
@RevWeb And how does that work when rubber hits road? Do they recommend ignoring phones from youth too? Seems risky to me. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:41 mirgray
9:42
Great! RT @MeriannaNeely we've actually established a covenant with youth to separate school and church experience. Student created. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:42 mirgray
9:43
@RevWeb My point is that administrators are more worried about protecting youth privacy than they are. pics, names are widely on SM. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:43 ofredrick
9:43
I think parents need to be informed, educated, guided as much or more than staff & clergy and set boundaries for tech use. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:43 AnjWiley
9:43
RT @AnjWiley: I think parents need to be informed, educated, guided as much or more than staff & clergy & set boundaries for tech. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:43 MeredithGould
9:44
@MeriannaNeely What do you mean by "covenant"? #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:44 MeredithGould
9:44
@MetroMonk Yes. I imagine some youth don't want to be "outed" as Christians. Some adults don't. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:44 mirgray
9:44
@mirgray W/youth things like no DMs, private messages, chatrooms can keep clergy from trouble. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:44 RevWeb
9:44
@MeriannaNeely interesting. it seems to separate the 2 also keeps other students from seeing that religion is not punitive? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:44 mattlipan
9:45
And I also think that more clergy should be willing to embrace SM. It's not going anywhere. It won't bite...I promise. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:45 JealaineMarple
9:45
@azrork We find youth tag themselves on Facebook, so you can turn off tags and loose opp to show who is involved in your church. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:45 ofredrick
9:45
@AnjWiley Maybe b4 we start talking policies we should figure out what they're intended to protect against? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:45 paulsteinbrueck
9:45
There is a difference between what people post and what the institution posts. We can't control others, but must behave ourselves #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:45 nealffischer
9:45
@AnjWiley Oh please let's not go down the road of convo about MIA parents! I taught young adult wreckage for years. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:45 MeredithGould
9:45
did we drop : T2 How would we know where we're succeeding & where we need improvement otherwise? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:45 WorldMedCard
9:46
@MeriannaNeely Yes, I know. I'm curious how the jargon is being used at a practical, actionable level. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:46 MeredithGould
9:46
@RevWeb @mirgray No DMs, private messages can also keep clergy from ministering to those struggling w very personal issues. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:46 paulsteinbrueck
9:46
@AnjWiley are you friends with your children? Do you have the passwords to their social media accounts? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:46 skenow
9:47
@MetroMonk We have a policy (email) prayer chain only prays for those giving permission even if no name given. Not sure on this. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:47 mirgray
9:47
Yes and yes RT @skenow: @AnjWiley are you friends with your children? Do you have the passwords to their social media accounts? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:47 AnjWiley
9:47
@paulsteinbrueck Our policy is mainly to protect privacy. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:47 azrork
9:47
Totally unrealistic & probably not even desirable to forbid DMs & private msgs. Agree w/@paulsteinbrueck about access to troubled #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:47 MeredithGould
9:48
@AnjWiley <applause> I admire that type of parenting. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:48 MeredithGould
9:48
re @skenow are you friends with your children? <YeS> Do you have PW to their SM accounts? <NO> that breaks a trust barrier #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:48 WorldMedCard
9:49
@AnjWiley how are you transferring responsibility for their actions on SM to your children? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:49 skenow
9:49
@RevWeb I agree. But private phone calls equally problematic. Most youth aren't talking on landline in living rm. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:49 mirgray
9:49
@azrork Is that why your the is the back of your head?? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:49 ofredrick
9:49
@WorldMedCard A trust barrier between parent and child? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:49 AnjWiley
9:49
@AnjWiley are you friends with your children? i keep tabs with them by knowing all their friends and monitoring the real events #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:49 WorldMedCard
9:50
@MeredithGould @AnjWiley And the little monsters still find ways around the oversight. Trust me. I know. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:50 ofredrick
9:50
@AnjWiley - did you have a Diary as child? did you parents read that ? that's private trust - same in SM #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:50 WorldMedCard
9:51
@WorldMedCard My mother read my diary & plowed thru my stuff all the time. I got therapy. I got over it. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:51 MeredithGould
9:52
@WorldMedCard @AnjWiley I would absolutely ready their diary if I thought there was something crucial I should know!! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:52 ofredrick
9:52
@WorldMedCard Not quite the same. Diary was talk with myself not the world. #ChSocM #notaparent
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:52 mirgray
9:52
@MeridithGould .. Me - never had diary .. lol .. no any fallback good or bad there ! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:52 WorldMedCard
9:53
Please forgive me. maybe I am missing something. What do parenting choices have to do with #chsocm policies? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:53 nealffischer
9:53
@ofredrick but you do not break that bond until you see signs of 'an issue' if you break trust, then what is left ? #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:53 WorldMedCard
9:53
@nealffischer Nothing. The convo has gotten off track! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:53 MeredithGould
9:53
@WorldMedCard There's a big diff b/w a diary & communication w another person. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:53 paulsteinbrueck
9:54
RT @mirgray: @WorldMedCard Not quite the same. Diary was talk with myself not the world. #chsocm #notaparent #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:54 AnjWiley
9:54
Measuring & protecting was what T2 started with .. and then Parenting traced in #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:54 WorldMedCard
9:54
@nealffischer Nothing…except that in faith communities, we should all protect children as parents would. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:54 azrork
9:55
@MeredithGould @nealffischer how can the church aid in teaching families about social media, that's #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:55 skenow
9:55
@nealffischer We are often helping in the boundary discussion with both youth and parents. #ChSocM #butseeyourpoint
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:55 mirgray
9:55
RT @MeredithGould: @nealffischer Nothing. The convo has gotten off track!//way off track...on course to a different city #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:55 JealaineMarple
9:56
@nealffischer @WorldMedCard Faith communities revolve around families so it makes sense to start there! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:56 AnjWiley
9:56
@WorldMedCard There is big difference between trust and parental oversight. No privacy allowed if I'm concerned about health/safety. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:56 ofredrick
9:56
@AnjWiley Quick. We might get 1 more Q in. #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:56 mirgray
9:57
@mirgray LOL. Doubtful, but I admire your optimism! #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:57 MeredithGould
9:57
RT @AnjWiley: @nealffischer @WorldMedCard Faith communities revolve around families so it makes sense to start there! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:57 skenow
9:57
Amen AnjWiley: @nealffischer @WorldMedCard Faith communities revolve AROUND families so it makes sense to start there! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:57 WorldMedCard
9:57
T2 about kids? It takes a village IRL. And it takes an SM village, too. We're into new media here. Be vigilant. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:57 RevWeb
9:57
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:57 ofredrick
9:57
Must go put little guy to bed. Good night, #ChSocM friends.
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:57 azrork
9:58
@MeredithGould Indeed. Twitter is slow tonight. Maybe only prayer then... #ChSocM
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:58 mirgray
9:58
@ofredrick Oh I'm happy to have a chat about crappy permissive parenting, but not during a #chsocm chat!
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:58 MeredithGould
9:58
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:58 MeredithGould
9:58
RT @RevWeb: T2 about kids? It takes a village IRL. And it takes an SM village, too. We're into new media here. Be vigilant. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:58 ofredrick
9:58
I agree churches should not place anyone in a difficult place. But, I don't feel the church can or should make a parent's decision #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:58 nealffischer
9:59
Holy holy, Coming up on the hour, we conclude with this prayer from Compline: #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:59 AnjWiley
9:59
RT @RevWeb: T2 about kids? It takes a village IRL. And it takes an SM village, too. Were into new media here. Be vigilant. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:59 skenow
9:59
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:59 mirgray
9:59
Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:59 AnjWiley
9:59
RT @AnjWiley: Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:59 MeredithGould
9:59
@MeredithGould But related - the church needs to teach parents the import of SM oversight with their kids. Don't forbid, get on it!! #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 9:59 ofredrick
10:00
The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on churchsocmed.blogspot.com within a few hours. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 10:00 AnjWiley
10:00
@nealffischer but the church can offer leadership and education #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 10:00 skenow
10:00
We’re at the hour. Thanks to all for your contributions & insights. Join us again, next Tuesday @9pm EDT. #chsocm
Tuesday August 21, 2012 10:00 AnjWiley
 
 

The topics:
T1: What elements must be included in a ministry safe use policy?
T2: How do those elements change for youth & teens?
T3: What is the effect of technology on the family?

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