August 2, 2011 #CHSOCM Tweetchat Transcript

#CHSOCM Tweetchat 

August 2, 2011 

CHSOCM Tweetchat (August 2, 2011)

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9:00	chsocm:  Welcome to the church and social media chat. As ever, we begin with a brief prayer. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:00 chsocm

9:00	tijuanabecky:  RT @Denise205: Church and social media chat starting in a few minutes. #chsocm // Where I'm at! [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:00 tijuanabecky

9:00	hughmacken:  RT @tijuanabecky: RT @Denise205: Church and social media chat starting in a few minutes. #chsocm // Where Im at! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:00 hughmacken

9:01	chsocm:  Almighty God, we give thanks for this time together as people of faith committed to using social media wisely & well. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:01 chsocm

9:01	drothamel:  @Denise205 Hello! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:01 drothamel

9:01	chsocm:  May your Holy Spirit guide our conversation tonight & as we move forward. Amen. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:01 chsocm

9:02	iamepiscopalian:  Amen, amen. #Chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:02 iamepiscopalian

9:02	drothamel:  @chsocm amen. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:02 drothamel

9:02	drothamel:  @Denise205 I'm glad to be back. I had to miss last week. :-( #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:02 drothamel

9:02	megbeugg:  Amen #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:02 megbeugg

9:03	chsocm:  We'll spend a few minutes on self-introductions. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:03 chsocm

9:03	tsudo:  @chsocm Keith Crawford, Little Rock, AR - Interactive Media Consultant for Churches - @WiredWitness #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:03 tsudo

9:04	chsocm:  @meredithgould moderating this chat. Sociologist, author, keen on using social media to build community. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:04 chsocm

9:04	Denise205:  Work on web content for a Catholic publisher in Chicago. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:04 Denise205

9:04	iamepiscopalian:  Domestic and Foreign Missionary Society #TooFormal? #Chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:04 iamepiscopalian

9:05	prkanderson:  Keith Anderson, Boston MA, Lutheran pastor, blogger on social media and church, writing a book on it with @edrescherphd #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:05 prkanderson

9:05	hughmacken:  i'm an internet & social media communications consultant and trainer. happy to be hear :) #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:05 hughmacken

9:05	klamach:  Chris L from the North Shore in MA, recently undecided on membership, but proud to be Episcopalian #Chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:05 klamach

9:05	RevWeb:  Dan Webster, priest and communicator, episcopal diocese of Maryland. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:05 RevWeb

9:05	christinaauch:  @chsocm intro/ seminarian @Lutherseminary whose tent-making gig is nonprofit comms and fundraising #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:05 christinaauch

9:06	hughmacken:  @drothamel very cool. congrats! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:06 hughmacken

9:06	ECCSonline:  How progressive! RT @drothamel: Daniel (VA). Proud to be the new unofficial "Director of Communications" for my church. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:06 ECCSonline

9:06	MeredithGould:  @drothamel *confetti* #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:06 MeredithGould

9:07	Denise205:  @drothamel Good title for a position! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:07 Denise205

9:07	drothamel:  @hughmacken Thanks! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:07 drothamel

9:07	klamach:  oh, and I have a Christian focused blog #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:07 klamach

9:07	SailingStNick:  Corporate name of the Episcopal Church. Kinda cool... RT @iamepiscopalian Domestic and Foreign Missionary Society #TooFormal? #Chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:07 SailingStNick

9:07	drothamel:  @MeredithGould . I like confetti! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:07 drothamel

9:08	catholicsme:  #chsocm Greetings from the Association of Catholics Exploring Social Media! [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:08 catholicsme

9:08	Denise205:  @megbeugg Good to see you here again. I'm trying not to melt here. Waiting for the promised cooldown tomorrow. Sad when 85 is cool! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:08 Denise205

9:08	RevWeb:  @SailingStNick @iamepiscopalian DFMS! Yay. If it were only true. Need to get back to that idea. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:08 RevWeb

9:09	chsocm:  Tonight's 3 topics all have to do with blogs and blogging. Get ready for T1. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:09 chsocm

9:09	ECCSonline:  BTW our prayers are with anyone here tonight from TX, OK, KS where heat is deadly. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:09 ECCSonline

9:09	rev_david:  Crazy Episcopalians with all their fancy-schmancy titles DFMS ;-) #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:09 rev_david

9:10	Denise205:  RT @chsocm: Tonight's 3 topics all have to do with blogs and blogging. Get ready for T1. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:10 Denise205

9:10	iamepiscopalian:  RT @rev_david: Crazy Episcopalians with all their fancy-schmancy titles DFMS ;-) #ChSocM // Heh. *puffs-chest* [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:10 iamepiscopalian

9:10	tijuanabecky:  Like! --> RT @chsocm: Tonight's 3 topics all have to do with blogs and blogging. Get ready for T1. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:10 tijuanabecky

9:11	chsocm:  T1 Keeping in mind that blogs are a social media tool, where & how do they fit into your communications strategy? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:11 chsocm

9:11	carinr:  How great to have chat begin w/prayer. Kind of like the way the tweeted office from @VirtualAbbey calms the frantic tweetstream. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:11 carinr

9:11	klamach:  Apologies for the typo #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:11 klamach

9:12	tsudo:  @chsocm Blogs act as our digital news room as well as a place to tell personal stories of missions and outreach #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:12 tsudo

9:12	rampracer:  RT @chsocm: T1 Keeping in mind that blogs are a social media tool, where & how do they fit into your communications strategy? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:12 rampracer

9:12	christinaauch:  RT @carinr: How great to have chat begin w/prayer. like the tweeted office from @VirtualAbbey calms the frantic tweetstream. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:12 christinaauch

9:12	tsudo:  @chsocm We've seen great response from our Pastor's individual blog #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:12 tsudo

9:12	tijuanabecky:  #chsocm A1: You can use a blog to communicate big events, share more about the message, share what's happening in the church, etc [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:12 tijuanabecky

9:12	drothamel:  T1: not every church/ministry should have or needs a blog. It MUST be more than a megaphone or online bulletin. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:12 drothamel

9:13	frdavidken:  My blog is pretty parish-focused, so it's actually become more of a base from which to post to my parish facebook page #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:13 frdavidken

9:13	MeredithGould:  I advocate building blogs into the website to provide some kind of interactive element for visitors. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:13 MeredithGould

9:14	drothamel:  @prkanderson your blog is a perfect example of what is possible with a pastor's blog. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:14 drothamel

9:14	iamepiscopalian:  T1: They are tricky for us, at the corporate level to NOT fall into the "house-organ" thing. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:14 iamepiscopalian

9:14	Denise205:  @christinaauch @carinr It is a great way to start the chat, I agree! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:14 Denise205

9:14	ECCSonline:  We do! RT @MeredithGould: I advocate building blogs into the website to provide some kind of interactive element for visitors. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:14 ECCSonline

9:14	carinr:  Speaking as a reader of blogs, I've been drawn to churches b/c I could tell the rector wd be an interesting preacher from his blog. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:14 carinr

9:15	drothamel:  @MeredithGould that brings up the issue of blog as a framework, as opposed to just a site. Excellent. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:15 drothamel

9:15	christinaauch:  @chsocm T1 #chsocm no where yet :( blogs seem even more linked to persona than Twitter & Facebook for orgs [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:15 christinaauch

9:15	prkanderson:  Blogs force you to explain and develop your ideas - much needed in a 140 character world #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:15 prkanderson

9:15	carinr:  Blogs are also a place where parishioners get to see a bit behind the public, Sunday-morning face of the pastor. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:15 carinr

9:15	MeredithGould:  @prkanderson I think people often forget that Twitter was pitched as "micro-blogging." #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:15 MeredithGould

9:16	prkanderson:  Absolutely! RT @MeredithGould: I advocate building blogs into the website to provide some kind of interactive element for visitors. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:16 prkanderson

9:16	drothamel:  @MeredithGould Oh, I remember the early days of Twitter, back when "microblogging" was how you had to describe it. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:16 drothamel

9:16	carinr:  The chaplain at my old U blogs her retreats at a monastery. Gd way to model for students her own seeking of spiritual renewal. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:16 carinr

9:17	drothamel:  @rev_david @MeredithGould @prkanderson actually, G+ is set up PERFECTLY for micro-blogging. Much more than FB. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:17 drothamel

9:17	christinaauch:  RT @denise205: T1: Blogs are on online hub of soc media that allow deeper exploration of topics than something like Twitter allows. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:17 christinaauch

9:18	hughmacken:  T1 blogs are an excellent tool for *asking questions* to generate a healthy discussion (in the comments section and elsewhere) #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:18 hughmacken

9:18	klamach:  @chsocm sorry if this gets old, but we can all learn from @JamesMartinSJ and his 140 character homilies everyday #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:18 klamach

9:18	carinr:  Blogs also allow expansion on lectionary, more reflection than can be fit into 1 homily. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:18 carinr

9:18	rev_david:  t1 - Teaching about SM this weekend, prob going to start with blogging as the underlying concept #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:18 rev_david

9:19	frdavidken:  @carinr I'm thinking of blogging Lenten series next year b/c it's so hard to get people to come to church on evening #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:19 frdavidken

9:19	prkanderson:  @jimwalton I don't think FB can sustain an idea or conversation as well as a blog can. It can extend the conversation from the blog #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:19 prkanderson

9:19	klamach:  RT @carinr: Blogs also allow expansion on lectionary, more reflection than can be fit into 1 homily. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:19 klamach

9:19	Denise205:  @hughmacken Well, asking questions is a great tactic on all social media, isn't it? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:19 Denise205

9:19	drothamel:  @rev_david I think that blogging is the core concept of SM. It is the only SM platform that can function as a home base. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:19 drothamel

9:20	tijuanabecky:  Another alternative would be to use the Notes option on FB as a blogging tool (assuming your church has FB already). #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:20 tijuanabecky

9:20	RevWeb:  Anybody using blogs for bible study, etc.? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:20 RevWeb

9:20	prkanderson:  Problem with thinking of Twitter and FB as blogging is that they don't archive your content. Its there and then fads away. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:20 prkanderson

9:21	drothamel:  the important thing about a blog is that it can be owned by the operator. FB, twitter, etc. belong to someone else. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:21 drothamel

9:21	jimwalton:  @prkanderson My church has a very active FB page and no blog. We were looking at some kind of blog and ended up going with FB #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:21 jimwalton

9:21	tsudo:  @RevWeb I've participated in some and REALLY want to explore that idea - are you? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:21 tsudo

9:21	Denise205:  @tijuanabecky But if you want posts as open as possible to reach wider audience, FB isn't the way to go for a "blog" #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:21 Denise205

9:22	hughmacken:  @tsudo exactly, yes. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:22 hughmacken

9:22	frdavidken:  @tijuanabecky Except that Facebook Notes doesn't always work for me. Sometimes it never opens for me when I click it #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:22 frdavidken

9:22	christinaauch:  @frdavidken #chsocm skeptics have asked how pastors can tweet or FB & raised privacy concerns; b/c depth, blogs are even more personal [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:22 christinaauch

9:22	tsudo:  @jimwalton you might try something simple like Posterous or Tumblr with a custom domain name #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:22 tsudo

9:22	tijuanabecky:  @frdavidken Well that's annoying. Tumblr or Wordpress would make a good alternative then. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:22 tijuanabecky

9:22	prkanderson:  RT @drothamel: the important thing about a blog is that it can be owned by the operator. FB, twitter, etc. belong to someone else. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:22 prkanderson

9:22	rev_david:  MT @prkanderson: Problem with thinking of Twitter & FB as blogging is no content archive. Its there and then fads away. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:22 rev_david

9:23	drothamel:  @jimwalton did you look at Wordpress at all? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:23 drothamel

9:23	iamepiscopalian:  RT @prkanderson: Problem with thinking of Twitter & FB as blogging is no content archive. Its there and then fads away. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:23 iamepiscopalian

9:23	jimwalton:  @Denise205 @tijuanabecky I would agree that FB is a closed platform but who isn't on FB these days? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:23 jimwalton

9:24	ECCSonline:  A blog is effective if it fulfills its purpose. Does yours have a purpose? Ay, there's the rub. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:24 ECCSonline

9:24	drothamel:  T2: Whatever you do, you must resist the temptation to define blogging success by the number of comments you receive. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:24 drothamel

9:24	prkanderson:  @MeredithGould And I use Trunk.ly to collect all the links I share on FB #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:24 prkanderson

9:25	jimwalton:  @drothamel I know WP well but a big part of what we were doing was photos of a big event and wanting to draw more people in. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:25 jimwalton

9:25	klamach:  @drothamel I receive 0 #chsocm so I can testify [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:25 klamach

9:26	frdavidken:  @drothamel @jimwalton The history is that facebook changes something. People gripe and say they're leaving, but don't #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:26 frdavidken

9:26	hughmacken:  @jimwalton i strongly agree. i actually like Facebook Notes, tagging, RSS feeds, & custom RSS feed with Feedburner. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:26 hughmacken

9:26	carinr:  @drothamel Also, note that increasingly the convo about blog posts takes place off-blog - on Twitter especially, and now Google+ #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:26 carinr

9:26	chsocm:  T2 If we agree that it's not about numbers (do we agree?) then what's an effective blog? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:26 chsocm

9:26	tijuanabecky:  @drothamel Then you export your Notes and import to Wordpress then put a notice on the church website about the new location. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:26 tijuanabecky

9:26	drothamel:  @jimwalton Ahhh. The themes have gotten so much better, that now you can do just about anything you need to. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:26 drothamel

9:27	MLInnovations:  RT @ECCSonline: A blog is effective if it fulfills its purpose. Does yours have a purpose? Ay, there's the rub. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:27 MLInnovations

9:27	klamach:  @drothamel @revdow just post your sermon to start and tag it #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:27 klamach

9:27	Denise205:  @frdavidken @drothamel @jimwalton But will G+ change that, and then we have to start rebuilding over there? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:27 Denise205

9:27	drothamel:  @frdavidken True. I just think that, even in the worst-case scenario, I am still in control of my blog. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:27 drothamel

9:27	jimwalton:  @drothamel What if.......... there are many what if's, right now FB is where the masses are. The church needs to be ready to adapt. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:27 jimwalton

9:28	tijuanabecky:  @RevDow try http://tweetchat.com #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:28 tijuanabecky

9:28	christinaauch:  RT @meredithgould: @prkanderson Backupify will archive social media content from Twitter #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:28 christinaauch

9:28	drothamel:  @klamach heheh. I feel you. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:28 drothamel

9:28	LakeCityAgent:  RT @drothamel: the important thing about a blog is that it can be owned by the operator. FB, twitter, etc. belong to someone else. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:28 LakeCityAgent

9:28	skynnard:  RT @drothamel: the important thing about a blog is that it can be owned by the operator. FB, twitter, etc. belong to someone else. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:28 skynnard

9:28	prkanderson:  Church blogs can't be just an online newsletter #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:28 prkanderson

9:29	rev_david:  Blog. FB. Twitter. G+. Who says it is one over the others? A good SM strategy should integrate them all. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:29 rev_david

9:29	Denise205:  @jimwalton @drothamel But I think we're moving into either/and territory here, when it should be both/and #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:29 Denise205

9:29	iamepiscopalian:  T2: Effective? Only as long as you continue to post consistently over an extended period of time. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:29 iamepiscopalian

9:29	frdavidken:  @Denise205 @frdavidken @drothamel @jimwalton Like the circles concept, but Google Plus seems more cluttered. Maybe bc text is bigger #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:29 frdavidken

9:29	tijuanabecky:  You could use FB, Twitter, G+, and a blog...depends on what you're communicating, where the ppl you're reaching are, etc. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:29 tijuanabecky

9:30	drothamel:  RT @jimwalton: ". . .the church needs to be ready to adapt." AMEN. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:30 drothamel

9:30	klamach:  @ChSocM #chsocm your blog is effective by its very existence [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:30 klamach

9:30	drothamel:  RT @Denise205: And not all people SHOULD be blogging. Its not for everyone. Dont blog without purpose or passion. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:30 drothamel

9:30	tijuanabecky:  RT @drothamel: RT @jimwalton: ". . .the church needs to be ready to adapt." AMEN. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:30 tijuanabecky

9:30	MeredithGould:  @ECCSonline Doesn't deepening relationships build community? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:30 MeredithGould

9:31	drothamel:  @rev_david @prkanderson I think you can be genuine without have to be personal. For me, a blog is about being genuine. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:31 drothamel

9:31	jimwalton:  RT @drothamel: RT @Denise205: And not all people SHOULD be blogging. Its not for everyone. Dont blog without purpose or passion. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:31 jimwalton

9:31	klamach:  @MeredithGould @denise205 @frdavidken @drothamel @jimwalton G+ is a fad, stick with the real thing #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:31 klamach

9:32	Denise205:  T2: I'm in a position where we have to use the numbers as one measure of effectiveness. But there are intangibles too. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:32 Denise205

9:32	rev_david:  @drothamel @rev_david @prkanderson Yes, but that "genuine" material - my ponderings, etc, are what I might rather put on my blog. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:32 rev_david

9:32	TheBrose1868:  @prkanderson agreed #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:32 TheBrose1868

9:33	rev_david:  @prkanderson Yes. I'm not sure how to measure the effectiveness. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:33 rev_david

9:33	MeredithGould:  @prkanderson Maybe "effectiveness" isn't possible to define, let alone measure when it comes to --> #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:33 MeredithGould

9:33	hughmacken:  T2 a church blog? i want to see comments.more=better no comments=it's not an effective blog. it's traditional 1-way media. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:33 hughmacken

9:33	Denise205:  @TotusTuus Hi! You're right about using other social media to spread the main message that lives on blog or *gasp* website #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:33 Denise205

9:34	klamach:  #ChSocM T2 just blog your sermon, or your take on the sermon, you are in effect bringing folks closer to your church somewhere [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:34 klamach

9:34	rev_david:  @prkanderson T2 - not sure how to measure effectiveness - which makes blogging like much of church life. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:34 rev_david

9:34	MeredithGould:  @Denise205 Alas, some people are using it that way. The epistles being generated are...long. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:34 MeredithGould

9:34	RevWeb:  T2 I find Tom Brackett's blog http://bit.ly/dCKPdz very effective for community, archive, convo, etc. He's missioner @ my denom. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:34 RevWeb

9:35	TotusTuus:  @rev_david @prkanderson if I understand u, sitemeter on blog gives info as to where traffic comes from & there r other measurers #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:35 TotusTuus

9:35	prkanderson:  @rev_david Amen and amen, sir. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:35 prkanderson

9:35	Denise205:  Effectiveness is hard to define on a one-size-fits-all basis. I work on multiple blogs, and the measures differ for each. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:35 Denise205

9:35	tijuanabecky:  #chsocm What if your pastor blogged about the church, his message series, and other related things. Have seen that be effective many times. [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:35 tijuanabecky

9:35	drothamel:  @rev_david @prkanderson Maybe you could get the ELCA to coming up with some "Blogging Effectiveness Benchmarks." ;-) #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:35 drothamel

9:36	rampracer:  T2 Some conversations that start with a post on your blog continue on other blogs and some bloggers may not be tracking that #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:36 rampracer

9:36	rev_david:  @TotusTuus Yes, I measure traffic, I look @ comments. But if goal is kingdom-building, those cannot be the some of effectiveness. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:36 rev_david

9:37	klamach:  RT @tijuanabecky: #chsocm What if your pastor blogged about the church, his message series, and other related things. Have seen that be ... [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:37 klamach

9:37	ECCSonline:  @tsudo @tijuanabecky In addition to posting sermon transcript, what abt adding new material only available on blog? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:37 ECCSonline

9:37	christinaauch:  RT @denise205: Effectiveness is hard to define on a one-size-fits-all basis.I work on multiple blogs,& the measures differ for each. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:37 christinaauch

9:37	tsudo:  @ECCSonline he does that already #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:37 tsudo

9:37	prkanderson:  Ha! RT @drothamel: @rev_david @prkanderson Maybe you could get the ELCA to coming up with some Blogging Effectiveness Benchmarks ;-) #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:37 prkanderson

9:38	rev_david:  Yes, I measure traffic, I look @ comments. But if goal is kingdom-building, those cannot be the sum of effectiveness. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:38 rev_david

9:38	TotusTuus:  RT @prkanderson: @TotusTuus @rev_david @prkanderson I think an admin needs to spread content across many medias #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:38 TotusTuus

9:38	chsocm:  And T3a: Should comments be moderated? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:38 chsocm

9:38	RevWeb:  T3 Check content against mission/vision stmnt and ministry initiatives. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:38 RevWeb

9:39	drothamel:  T3: Editorial oversight is critical if a group blog is going to survive. It is precisely why so many don't make it. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:39 drothamel

9:39	ECCSonline:  T3: Wow, thought provoking. Who controls editorial content of church blog? Vestry? Priest? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:39 ECCSonline

9:39	prkanderson:  RT @drothamel: T3: Editorial oversight is critical if a group blog is going to survive. It is precisely why so many dont make it. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:39 prkanderson

9:39	Denise205:  @chsocm At least a first comment. If nothing else, it helps keep the spam from showing, which makes the blog look untended. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:39 Denise205

9:40	drothamel:  T3a: I prefer to allow comments to be approved, moderated when necessary, but provide clear guidelines. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:40 drothamel

9:40	rev_david:  T3a(1) - If you are the pastor blogging for the church, should there be editorial oversight? If so, by whom and how? #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:40 rev_david

9:40	ECCSonline:  @chsocm We are firm believers in moderated comments. Much more bc of irrelevancy than opposition. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:40 ECCSonline

9:40	klamach:  RT @drothamel: T3a: I prefer to allow comments to be approved, moderated when necessary, but provide clear guidelines. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:40 klamach

9:40	MeredithGould:  I come out of magazine publishing & ad/pr agency, so posts on any blog I manage are reviewed & copyedited. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:40 MeredithGould

9:41	tijuanabecky:  @ECCSonline @tsudo adding materials only available on the blog is great. Then share your posts via social networks. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:41 tijuanabecky

9:41	klamach:  RT @drothamel: T3a: If you have a wordpress blog-- INSTALL AKISMET! Friends don't let friends get spammed. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:41 klamach

9:41	tsudo:  @chsocm I let registered users comments published, and manually approve unregisterd via @disqus #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:41 tsudo

9:41	Denise205:  @drothamel Sadly, even Akismet is letting lots of spam through lately, at least for our set of blogs. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:41 Denise205

9:42	theologybird:  RT @ECCSonline: If the pastors blogging has editorial oversight, what about his/her sermons? #quicksand Good point! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:42 theologybird

9:42	drothamel:  T3a: Of course, I'm also a basketball referee, so blowing the whistle and calling fouls comes naturally. :-) #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:42 drothamel

9:42	iamepiscopalian:  T3: Our program officers are blogging. They are their own oversight. *note to self: decide if this is a good idea* #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:42 iamepiscopalian

9:42	tsudo:  @Denise205 @drothamel I couldn't make it without Disqus and almost never see spam #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:42 tsudo

9:42	drothamel:  @Denise205 well, I actually prefer Disqus, but some people like the native WP comments. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:42 drothamel

9:42	christinaauch:  RT @chsocm: T3a: comments can be moderated by auto cc: to admin; req preapproval can shut down convo; delete anything inappropriate #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:42 christinaauch

9:43	ECCSonline:  If priest/pastor adds new material re sermon in blog, include that fact in the actual sermon so people know. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:43 ECCSonline

9:43	MeredithGould:  Showing my background and training: I'm a big believer in style guides! (I'm a dork.) #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:43 MeredithGould

9:44	ECCSonline:  @MeredithGould Style guides? For blogging? Social media? What a refreshing concept. Is there one?? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:44 ECCSonline

9:44	prkanderson:  @drothamel @Denise205 I really like Disqus too. Use it on my blog. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:44 prkanderson

9:44	MeredithGould:  @drothamel LOVE @FakeAPStylebook #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:44 MeredithGould

9:44	jimwalton:  RT @chsocm: And T3a: Should comments be moderated? I like first comments to be moderated. Once approved, generally legit. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:44 jimwalton

9:45	klamach:  @chsocm I have 33 more spam comments than real comments... #chsocm http://t.co/NvuT1kb sorry, shameless plug [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:45 klamach

9:45	MeredithGould:  @ECCSonline I create one. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:45 MeredithGould

9:45	chsocm:  RT @rev_david: Want to ask a related question b4 time runs out: Platform - blogger, wordpress, other? Livejournal ;) ? Why? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:45 chsocm

9:45	rev_david:  @MeredithGould @drothamel @FakeAPStylebook Yes indeed, great stuff #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:45 rev_david

9:45	drothamel:  @MeredithGould I still have my copy of the MLA from college. #englishmajor #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:45 drothamel

9:45	Denise205:  @drothamel @MeredithGould Go #englishmajor style guide fans! :) #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:45 Denise205

9:46	MeredithGould:  STrange but true: I love Blogger, esp now that it allows for static pages & customized design. HATE WP #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:46 MeredithGould

9:46	klamach:  @rev_david wordpress here, seems to be the leader #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:46 klamach

9:46	iamepiscopalian:  We are using Wordpress for all of our blogs. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:46 iamepiscopalian

9:46	tijuanabecky:  @rev_david Definitely Wordpress, it's looks more professional, more options, easier in my opinion. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:46 tijuanabecky

9:46	tsudo:  @rev_david Wordpress - strongest community, most flexible #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:46 tsudo

9:47	Denise205:  Wordpress! @rev_david Great support community & customization features. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:47 Denise205

9:47	drothamel:  @MeredithGould oh man. When was the last time you checked out WP? It is SOOO much easier than it was even 2 years ago. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:47 drothamel

9:47	theologybird:  Wordpress, but if blogger had that flexibility, @meredithGould, when I left I might have stayed #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:47 theologybird

9:47	RevWeb:  T3 We have several blogging bishops in my denom. Who's going to check their content? Who should? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:47 RevWeb

9:47	Denise205:  Plus there are so many Blogger blogs that won't accept my comments that I can't trust the tool. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:47 Denise205

9:47	drothamel:  @MeredithGould I also think that Google will stop developing/supporting blogger in the next few years. Just a hunch. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:47 drothamel

9:47	tsudo:  @MeredithGould nightmare? I set them up with Live Writer and they and love it. In my experience #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:47 tsudo

9:48	theologybird:  @MeredithGould As a small parish priest, why? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:48 theologybird

9:48	MeredithGould:  @theologybird Very user friendly. WP is great if you have IT resources or are naturally geeky. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:48 MeredithGould

9:48	mirgray:  @rev_david #chsocm It is effective if newbies mention your social media stuff. You ask visitors how they found you? Steeples aren't enough. [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:48 mirgray

9:49	RevWeb:  @MeredithGould Not in MY denom. Dumped him 450 yrs ago. But I digress. Edwin Newman told me once, everyone needs an editor. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:49 RevWeb

9:49	rev_david:  Why? RT @MeredithGould: WP is a nightmare for a small parish, IMO #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:49 rev_david

9:49	MeredithGould:  @rev_david Not user friendly enough. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:49 MeredithGould

9:49	theologybird:  @MeredithGould Whenever I can. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:49 theologybird

9:50	iamepiscopalian:  RT @MeredithGould: Okay, I'll throw this in: open source anyone? #chsocm // We are now a Drupal shop. [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:50 iamepiscopalian

9:50	drothamel:  @MeredithGould Love Open Source, but specifically, what? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:50 drothamel

9:50	mirgray:  @jimwalton #chsocm But I'm not just building a relationship with leader. Want a relationship with a community. So want to hear more voices. [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:50 mirgray

9:50	theologybird:  @MeredithGould When I switched 3+ years ago what I found was I could go techier with WP, but I didn't have to. FWTW #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:50 theologybird

9:50	drothamel:  @iamepiscopalian really? I was a community manager for a company that used Drupal. It drove me nuts. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:50 drothamel

9:51	drothamel:  @ECCSonline Open Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:51 drothamel

9:51	MeredithGould:  @drothamel Drupal. Loved it in principle, couldn't deal with it relative to design. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:51 MeredithGould

9:52	iamepiscopalian:  @drothamel Yeah, big move away from trad CMS solution to open source is in full swing. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:52 iamepiscopalian

9:52	MeredithGould:  @iamepiscopalian Commies! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:52 MeredithGould

9:52	drothamel:  @MeredithGould that's EXACTLY how I felt. Although, in fairness, I have heard from a few that it is now better. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:52 drothamel

9:53	drothamel:  @iamepiscopalian that's good though. It makes you less dependent upon vendors. Kudos. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:53 drothamel

9:53	MeredithGould:  @theologybird @iamepiscopalian I worked with someone for a while who stuck me in Drupal hell. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:53 MeredithGould

9:53	iamepiscopalian:  Well, anything can break if handled poorly. Just saying. @theologybird @MeredithGould #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:53 iamepiscopalian

9:54	chsocm:  So it looks like everyone is very keen on WP. Any tips for getting started for newbies? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:54 chsocm

9:54	ECCSonline:  #chsocm is the fastest hour of the week on Twitter. Please send me links to your blog, I'm always learning: info@eccsonline.net #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:54 ECCSonline

9:55	rev_david:  And migrating? // RT @chsocm: So it looks like everyone is very keen on WP. Any tips for getting started for newbies? #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:55 rev_david

9:55	iamepiscopalian:  @drothamel Ultimately, we will realize a HUGE savings moving to open source. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:55 iamepiscopalian

9:55	mnplatypus:  Bah! Missed #chsocm again this week :( [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:55 mnplatypus

9:55	drothamel:  @MeredithGould @theologybird @iamepiscopalian wait, didn't Rob Bell say that didn't exist? :-D #couldntresist #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:55 drothamel

9:55	vhanning:  RT @chsocm: So it looks like everyone is very keen on WP. Any tips for getting started for newbies? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:55 vhanning

9:55	rev_david:  @mnplatypus There's always a transcript that will get posted #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:55 rev_david

9:55	drothamel:  @rev_david migrating from which platform? #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:55 drothamel

9:56	klamach:  @chsocm #chsocm it is easy, pick a theme you like and start blogging, and keep a good blogroll [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:56 klamach

9:56	ECCSonline:  @mnplatypus and everyone at #chsocm missed YOU! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:56 ECCSonline

9:56	rev_david:  @drothamel Blogger #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:56 rev_david

9:56	prkanderson:  @rev_david @chsocm Migrating. You should be able to export an XML file from your blog and import into WP #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:56 prkanderson

9:56	tsudo:  @vhanning @chsocm set you URLs to use names, use @disqus for comments, and windows live writer to compose #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:56 tsudo

9:56	drothamel:  .@chsocm get your feet wet with WP.com, first. If you want more functionality, explore a self-hosted solution. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:56 drothamel

9:57	prkanderson:  @rev_david @chsocm You should be able to export an XML file from your blog and import it into a fresh Wordpress blog. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:57 prkanderson

9:57	drothamel:  @rev_david if you do a self-hosted WP blog, I'm pretty sure they now have one-click import of Blogger content. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:57 drothamel

9:57	ECCSonline:  Final thoughts: take risks in your writing. Being safe = being boring. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:57 ECCSonline

9:57	Denise205:  @chsocm Don't get lost in all of the plugin options. Start with the basic functionality. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:57 Denise205

9:57	RevWeb:  Will use transcript to direct convo w/colleagues re blog purpose/passion/necessity, etc. Tnx to one and all. #PBWY #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:57 RevWeb

9:57	rev_david:  RT @ECCSonline: Final thoughts: take risks in your writing. Being safe = being boring. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:57 rev_david

9:58	tijuanabecky:  RT @drothamel: RT @ECCSonline: Final thoughts: take risks in your writing. Being safe = being boring. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:58 tijuanabecky

9:58	Denise205:  Thanks for another fast-moving chat! Lots of good food for thought tonight. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:58 Denise205

9:58	chsocm:  Final thoughts from the moderator: be blessed & a blessing! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:58 chsocm

9:58	iamepiscopalian:  RT @MeredithGould: Commies! #chsocm // Socialists? [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:58 iamepiscopalian

9:59	MeredithGould:  @iamepiscopalian Them too!! #showingmyage #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:59 MeredithGould

9:59	ECCSonline:  Thank you! RT @chsocm: Final thoughts from the moderator: be blessed & a blessing! #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:59 ECCSonline

9:59	MeredithGould:  RT @rev_david: Another great gathering of the Altar Guild of Nerds. #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:59 MeredithGould

9:59	drothamel:  RT @chsocm: Final thoughts from the moderator: be blessed & a blessing! // word. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:59 drothamel

9:59	ECCSonline:  ROTFL RT @rev_david: Another great gathering of the Altar Guild of Nerds. #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 9:59 ECCSonline

10:00

ManlyTheology:  @meredithgould #chsocm is a fantastic idea! [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 10:00 ManlyTheology

10:01

iamepiscopalian:  Hey, we/I'm really digging these Tuesday night shmoozes! Great job everyone! #ChSocM [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 10:01 iamepiscopalian

10:01

ECCSonline:  12 practical tips for writing more (and better) blog posts every week > http://ow.ly/5TImX #chsocm #nonprofit [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 10:01 ECCSonline

10:02

ECCSonline:  Inspiring Generosity: 11 Benefits of Blogging for your #Nonprofit http://t.co/mJfArM5 #chsocm [via Twitter] Tuesday August 2, 2011 10:02 ECCSonline

 

 

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