#chsocm: September 13, 2011 #ChSocM Tweetchat Transcript

#ChSocM Tweetchat

September 13, 2011

#ChSocM Tweetchat (9/13/11)

(09/13/2011)

9:00

chsocm:

Good evening everyone & welcome to our weekly church & social media (#chsocm) chat, especially those joining for the first time. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:00 chsocm

9:01

chsocm:

If you're new, try using the Tweetchat platform, which automagically adds the hashtag. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:01 chsocm

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asacredrebel:

Welcome! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:01 asacredrebel

9:01

chsocm:

If this is your first tweetchat ever, please do not get discouraged by the pace! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:01 chsocm

9:01

chsocm:

A transcript will be available in 2 forms by tomorrow morning here: http://bit.ly/pTDoAb #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:01 chsocm

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RevWeb:

@bfelice Glad you're here. Hope you find it helpful, fun and a community builder for you. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:02 RevWeb

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chsocm:

We’ll get started in a minute with self-introductions, but as ever, we start with prayer. Or maybe we'll just use @edkay77's "Yay!" #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:02 chsocm

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rampracer:

RT @chsocm: A transcript will be available in 2 forms by tomorrow morning here: http://bit.ly/pTDoAb #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:02 rampracer

9:03

chsocm:

Let us pray: #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:03 chsocm

9:03

chsocm:

Almighty & merciful God, we rejoice in your abiding presence everywhere & your mercy at all times. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:03 chsocm

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chsocm:

We give thanks for this & every opportunity to share experience & inquiry anchored in faith. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:03 chsocm

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edkay77:

@chsocm Amen! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:04 edkay77

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bfelice:

@revweb @mgoins @sm4faith ty ty #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:04 bfelice

9:04

chsocm:

We ask your Holy Spirit to inspire tonight’s conversation & guide us as we move forward in love & service. Amen. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:04 chsocm

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RevWeb:

Amen! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:04 RevWeb

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drothamel:

@chsocm Amen. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:05 drothamel

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chsocm:

Next up: self-introductions. In addition to your church affiliation, please let everyone how you currently use social media #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:05 chsocm

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youravgpastor:

Amen! #Chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:05 youravgpastor

9:06

theologybird:

Hello! Episcopalian, Twitter, FB, some other dabbling... #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:06 theologybird

9:06

cephasmedia:

Laura Toepfer, Episcopal priest and social media consultant. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:06 cephasmedia

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klamach:

@Chsocm amen! Chris Lawrence, St Peters Salem, blogger/tweeter/fb-ER #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:06 klamach

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chsocm:

moderating this chat @meredithgould, sociologist, author, keen on using social media to build community, also active in #hcsm #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:06 chsocm

9:07

RevWeb:

#Episcopal priest in Baltimore using SM for #evangelism, networking, community building & wedding plans. #3xCharm #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:07 RevWeb

9:07

chsocm:

We will assume tweets during this chat yours & do not represent your church or organization #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:07 chsocm

9:07

mgoins:

Meredith Goins, librarian, volunteer at New Providence Presbyterian in Maryville, TN #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:07 mgoins

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bfelice:

episcopalian. wearer of many hats including communications cap. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:07 bfelice

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klamach:

@Chsocm and Episcopalian (Anglo-catholic) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:07 klamach

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chsocm:

Kindly remember that we’re here to share with & support one another. Please use DM or email to pitch products/services #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:07 chsocm

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mgoins:

Use sm for collection development (ie books to buy, links to use!) and to share news and updates. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:08 mgoins

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mgoins:

@MeredithGould Right back attcha Mere! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:08 mgoins

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mnplatypus:

@chsocm I'm Angela, communication secretary in a large ELCA congregation in west metro Minneapolis, Minnesota #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:08 mnplatypus

9:08

Denise205:

I work in Catholic publishing on Web content. Live near Chicago. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:08 Denise205

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rev_david:

David. #ELCA pastor breathing smoke in Texas. Lurking while in a meeting in the synod office. #ChSocM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:08 rev_david

9:09

klamach:

Perfect! RT @chsocm: We will assume tweets during this chat yours & do not represent your church or organization #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:09 klamach

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mgoins:

@rev_david Glad you can join us! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:09 mgoins

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MeredithGould:

@rev_david Read your blog post about the heat in TX & the pic of the ground was parching #ELCA #ChSocM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:09 MeredithGould

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drothamel:

@rev_david Good use of meeting time. ;-) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:09 drothamel

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chsocm:

Great to see regulars and some new folks! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:09 chsocm

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paulsteinbrueck:

@drothamel @rev_david LOL! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:10 paulsteinbrueck

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chsocm:

Tonight we’re chatting about social media policies. Some issues & examples available on our blog: http://tinyurl.com/3v5u2r9 [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:10 chsocm

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youravgpastor:

Why wouldn't the ELCA want to have their views represented by Joe Smith??? #Chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:10 youravgpastor

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mgoins:

Oops, child up. Back in a few. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:10 mgoins

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asacredrebel:

Jerry ELCA pastor just getting out of Bible study... #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:11 asacredrebel

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Denise205:

I didn't do my pre-reading, but will jump in as makes sense. I hope you do too! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:11 Denise205

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Denise205:

@asacredrebel Welcome! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:12 Denise205

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chsocm:

T1 What's your current experience with developing & establishing a social media policy for your church/faith-based organization? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:12 chsocm

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rev_david:

@youravgpastor I have a hard enough time just speaking for myself :-) #ChSocM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:12 rev_david

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Denise205:

@sm4faith Well, it was available for those who wanted to read it ahead of time. Beauty is it's referenced for later reading too! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:13 Denise205

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MeredithGould:

@sm4faith Not to worry, you don't need to have read up on this in advance! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:13 MeredithGould

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sm4faith:

t1 varied - policy at one church - find good people and trust their judgement #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:13 sm4faith

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drothamel:

T1: As of right now, my church doesn't have an official SM policy. I'm using the @mnplatypus strategy for now. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:13 drothamel

9:14

edkay77:

T1 I haven't had experience doing one, but would be looking to develop something as a model for other churches #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:14 edkay77

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asacredrebel:

T1 - it is like beating my head against a brick wall as social media is not needed #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:14 asacredrebel

9:14

klamach:

@csalafia you should follow the #Chsocm chat and contribute! [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:14 klamach

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youravgpastor:

I have nothing as of yet. #shame #guilt #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:14 youravgpastor

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MeredithGould:

@sm4faith Yipes! Every post? Who reviewed and approved? How long did THAT take?? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:14 MeredithGould

9:15

theologybird:

MT @edkay77: T1 I havent had experience doing one, but would be looking to develop something //me too #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:15 theologybird

9:15

paulsteinbrueck:

@chsocm T1: I don't believe a social media policy is needed 4 my church or company. :) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:15 paulsteinbrueck

9:15

sm4faith:

@youravgpastor No shame - its another way of talking - you have a talking policy? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:15 sm4faith

9:15

mgoins:

T1: No policy yet - introducing church admin to sm on Friday (yikes!) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:15 mgoins

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theologybird:

RT @asacredrebel: T1 - it is like beating my head against a brick wall as social media is not needed //and or 'evil' #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:15 theologybird

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asacredrebel:

@MeredithGould @sm4faith Sounds like a full time position.... #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:15 asacredrebel

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drothamel:

T1 also begs the question, "do you have a 'evangelism policy' or a 'marketing policy,' or 'stewardship policy?'" #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:15 drothamel

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sm4faith:

@MeredithGould @sm4faith The every post situation is new - will loosen as they grow accustomed #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:16 sm4faith

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MeredithGould:

@sm4faith Or exhausted! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:16 MeredithGould

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MeredithGould:

RT @drothamel: T1 also begs the question, "do you have a 'evangelism policy' or a 'marketing policy,' or 'stewardship policy?'" #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:16 MeredithGould

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paulsteinbrueck:

RT @chsocm: T1 Whats ur current experience with developing & establishing a social media policy for your church/faith-based org? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:16 paulsteinbrueck

9:16

drothamel:

T1: Having a "policy" is FAR less important than having a plan/strategy. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:16 drothamel

9:17

paulsteinbrueck:

RT @drothamel: T1 also begs the question, "do you have a evangelism policy or a marketing policy, or stewardship policy?" #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:17 paulsteinbrueck

9:17

sm4faith:

MT @drothamel: T1: Having a "policy" is FAR less important than having a plan/strategy. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:17 sm4faith

9:17

youravgpastor:

RT @drothamel: T1: Having a "policy" is FAR less important than having a plan/strategy. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:17 youravgpastor

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chsocm:

T1a: What’s your greatest concern about such policies? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:17 chsocm

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mgoins:

@drothamel Policy leads to plan? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:18 mgoins

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sm4faith:

@mgoins Say more, because I don't see where you're coming from yet. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:18 sm4faith

9:18

drothamel:

@mgoins I think those things are more appropriately classified as plan/strategy, rather than policy. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:18 drothamel

9:18

rev_david:

T1ish - A SocMed strategy should be less about "policing" and more about empowering #ChSocM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:18 rev_david

9:18

Denise205:

@mgoins Good luck! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:18 Denise205

9:18

paulsteinbrueck:

RT @rev_david: T1ish - A SocMed strategy should be less about "policing" and more about empowering // Yes! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:18 paulsteinbrueck

9:18

sm4faith:

@chsocm t1a depends on what kind of church organisation and purpose of using SM #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:18 sm4faith

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mgoins:

@paulsteinbrueck Policy allows committees to implement plan. Policy is first step! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:19 mgoins

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asacredrebel:

T1ish - A SocMed strategy should be less about "policing" and more about empowering @rev_david //AMEN #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:19 asacredrebel

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mgoins:

@Denise205 Thank you. You have all made this possible, while allowing me to grow too! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:19 mgoins

9:19

mirgray:

@sm4faith #chsocm We don't have a speaking policy but some training in healthy evangelism isn't a bad thing. [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:19 mirgray

9:20

drothamel:

RT @rev_david: T1ish - A SocMed strategy should be less about "policing" and more about empowering #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:20 drothamel

9:20

rampracer:

RT @rev_david: T1ish - A SocMed strategy should be less about "policing" and more about empowering #ChSocM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:20 rampracer

9:20

youravgpastor:

RT @drothamel: RT @rev_david: T1ish - A SocMed strategy should be less about "policing" and more about empowering #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:20 youravgpastor

9:20

Denise205:

@mgoins Be sure to let us know how Friday goes! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:20 Denise205

9:20

mgoins:

@paulsteinbrueck Actually, both. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:20 mgoins

9:20

asacredrebel:

T1 - Policy could get in the way of ministry that needs to be done. Did Jesus have a policy for the way the disciples acted? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:20 asacredrebel

9:21

sm4faith:

if use of sm represents key officials in the church, policy more important - a different role #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:21 sm4faith

9:21

bfelice:

In MO, interesting back and forth over SM (facebook) policy for teachers between legislature and courts. http://is.gd/pVEHul #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:21 bfelice

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mnplatypus:

I guess what I mean is not worry that someone will come in and spam everyone (on church acct) and undo my hard work #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:21 mnplatypus

9:22

mirgray:

Does "guidelines" work better than "policy"?T @ Generally speaking, "policies" are used to restrict, rather than enable... #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:22 mirgray

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edwardjensen:

Looking forward to following the #chsocm feed tonight. Good questions and exchange being had. [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:22 edwardjensen

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sm4faith:

Also where you have a team of say 11 people using one sm handle, guidelines can give confidence that you're doing it right #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:22 sm4faith

9:22

drothamel:

@asacredrebel I think Jesus' policies were pretty good: Love God. Love your neighbor. Those work for SM, too. :-) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:22 drothamel

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asacredrebel:

@sm4faith would not this be handled differently by the people. I do not tweet everything I want to because of the role I fill #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:22 asacredrebel

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mgoins:

@sm4faith Agree completely. Helps define tone. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:23 mgoins

9:23

sm4faith:

working with public policy in schools, there are thou shalt and thou shalt not policies 1/2 #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:23 sm4faith

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asacredrebel:

@drothamel AMEN that is true, but were those policies or a way of life? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:23 asacredrebel

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rev_david:

The risk we run is micro-managing / over-managing, which is the best way to kill any ministry #ChSocM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:23 rev_david

9:23

sm4faith:

"shalt not" policies can enable more - if not on list its ok - your call! 2/2 #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:23 sm4faith

9:24

MeredithGould:

RT @rev_david: The risk we run is micro-managing / over-managing, which is the best way to kill any ministry #ChSocM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:24 MeredithGould

9:24

mirgray:

#chsocm Is it Sojourners that explains their guidelines with biblical text and plain language explanation? [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:24 mirgray

9:24

mnplatypus:

@chsocm SM is a moving target - subject to change / innovation #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:24 mnplatypus

9:24

theologybird:

@rev_david The other edge of the risk is neglect and equally dangerous. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:24 theologybird

9:24

drothamel:

@asacredrebel those are a way of life, no doubt. But managers need policies to justify existence, so I'm willing to concede those. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:24 drothamel

9:25

edkay77:

MT @asacredrebel T1 - Policy could get in the way // Could also save an org/ch from a gaffe from ppl who mean well but don't do well #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:25 edkay77

9:25

chsocm:

T1b What's your best hope for these policies or guidelines? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:25 chsocm

9:25

asacredrebel:

@drothamel I can agree with that. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:25 asacredrebel

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sm4faith:

a lot of our church social media ventures are about as autonymous as a cell group - do they have policies? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:25 sm4faith

9:25

tsudo:

@chsocm If a team is given adequate education & vision then policies aren't often needed. As @rev_david said trust the who #CHSOCM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:25 tsudo

9:26

paulsteinbrueck:

@asacredrebel There's a huge diff b/w what ppl do thru a church's official sm profiles & their own personal profiles. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:26 paulsteinbrueck

9:26

mirgray:

#chsocm Does multiple voices on one account work or better to have main account rt so people know whose talking? [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:26 mirgray

9:26

asacredrebel:

@edkay77 absolutely! It is a double edged sword. One that should be handled delicately, but not played with! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:26 asacredrebel

9:26

RevWeb:

T1b That guidelines will help protect & model good SM use for young people. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:26 RevWeb

9:26

edkay77:

RT @sm4faith where you have a team of say 11 people using one sm handle, guidelines can give confidence that you're doing it right #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:26 edkay77

9:27

sm4faith:

@mirgray Depends on ministry concerned. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:27 sm4faith

9:27

asacredrebel:

T1b - that they do not hinder, but empower. They do not get in the way, but support #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:27 asacredrebel

9:27

MeredithGould:

@mirgray If it's an org's account, the voice should be unified even if one person is repping the org #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:27 MeredithGould

9:27

paulsteinbrueck:

@chsocm T1b: my best hope for sm policies is that they go away. :P #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:27 paulsteinbrueck

9:27

klamach:

RT @MeredithGould: @mirgray If it's an org's account, the voice should be unified even if one person is repping the org #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:27 klamach

9:27

MeredithGould:

RT @paulsteinbrueck: @chsocm T1b: my best hope for sm policies is that they go away. :P #chsocm LOLOL [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:27 MeredithGould

9:27

drothamel:

RT @asacredrebel: T1b - that they do not hinder, but empower. They do not get in the way, but support. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:27 drothamel

9:27

rampracer:

RT @chsocm: T1b What's your best hope for these policies or guidelines? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:27 rampracer

9:28

sm4faith:

RT @paulsteinbrueck: @chsocm T1b: my best hope for sm policies is that they go away. :P < LOL! Love it :) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:28 sm4faith

9:28

tsudo:

@chsocm T1b To create mindfulness & process that doesn't rely on a single person #CHSOCM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:28 tsudo

9:28

theologybird:

RT @tsudo: @chsocm T1b To create mindfulness & process that doesnt rely on a single person #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:28 theologybird

9:28

MeredithGould:

I advocate a social anarchist theory of orgs: keep structure when it works, ditch it when it stops working. Policies, too. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:28 MeredithGould

9:29

asacredrebel:

RT @tsudo: T1b To create mindfulness & process that doesnt rely on a single person //relying on one person could be a problem #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:29 asacredrebel

9:29

chsocm:

@Denise205 Good point: remember that social media includes blogs as well as FB, Twitter, YouTube #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:29 chsocm

9:29

sm4faith:

I don't actually like unified voices, I like a generous variety of viewpoints. Too much unity suggests cult. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:29 sm4faith

9:29

asacredrebel:

@MeredithGould Absolutely. That is the way to go and be and do! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:29 asacredrebel

9:30

mirgray:

#chsocm T1b To show diversity & help seekers feel they could belong. To avoid burnout by empowering. To show we love w/o being clones. [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:30 mirgray

9:30

RevWeb:

RT @sm4faith: I dont actually like unified voices, I like a generous variety of viewpoints. Too much unity suggests cult. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:30 RevWeb

9:30

youravgpastor:

At this point I'm in such a redevelopment process that policies seem counterproductive. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:30 youravgpastor

9:30

asacredrebel:

@Denise205 which may not seem to be unified voices, in a blog setting. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:30 asacredrebel

9:30

paulsteinbrueck:

@chsocm Just to clarify, an official sm strategy is hugely important. A policy for personal sm use not so much. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:30 paulsteinbrueck

9:31

sm4faith:

MT @mirgray: #chsocm T1b To show diversity & help seekers feel they could belong. ... To show we love w/o being clones. < agree #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:31 sm4faith

9:31

mgoins:

Policies can be required by church's polity. Such is life. Not a bad thing, just a part of the process. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:31 mgoins

9:31

mirgray:

+ 1 RT @chsocm @Denise205 Good point: remember that social media includes blogs as well as FB, Twitter, YouTube #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:31 mirgray

9:31

chsocm:

Does the social media platform matter relative to "unified voices"? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:31 chsocm

9:31

Denise205:

@asacredrebel and I find no problem with that #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:31 Denise205

9:31

rampracer:

RT @chsocm: Does the social media platform matter relative to "unified voices"? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:31 rampracer

9:32

ZemaIsAGal:

RT @DMAUB: "@drothamel: about to hop on the #chsocm chat while listening to that new @DMAUB album. #winning"[via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:32 ZemaIsAGal

9:32

youravgpastor:

Hey quick aside #chsocm folks, anyone satisfied w/ a twitter app on iPad that works well w/ these chats??? [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:32 youravgpastor

9:32

drothamel:

When I think "unified voice" I think more in terms of style than content. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:32 drothamel

9:32

RchrdBott:

Pastoral call... missed the first half. Hi, all! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:32 RchrdBott

9:33

asacredrebel:

@RchrdBott welcome! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:33 asacredrebel

9:33

Denise205:

@RchrdBott Hello! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:33 Denise205

9:33

MeredithGould:

For organizational/diocesan Twitter accts I like to see initials used to indicate who is tweeting. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:33 MeredithGould

9:33

asacredrebel:

@chsocm yes. No. Maybe! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:33 asacredrebel

9:33

smshepherds:

Each SM platform requires its own nuance. It's clunky to cotag on FB. Easy to cite different authors on blogs. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:33 smshepherds

9:34

Denise205:

RT @paulsteinbrueck: @chsocm Yes, unity in purpose is important. Unity in personality is not.. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:34 Denise205

9:34

klamach:

@chsocm No. I reject diversity for every context. I reject diversity of opinion if it runs against a church's mission statement. #Chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:34 klamach

9:34

mgoins:

@MeredithGould Agreed! This is common across the mktg spectrum. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:34 mgoins

9:34

rev_david:

Spirit works best among people empowered & trusted to use their gifts. #ChSocM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:34 rev_david

9:34

bfelice:

@meredithgould really depends on the message...some msgs from judicatories are from the org not the person #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:34 bfelice

9:34

drothamel:

@MeredithGould I've used organizational accts. where we did that. such as," /dr or ^dr." #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:34 drothamel

9:35

rampracer:

@youravgpastor really like Hootsuite app #ChSocM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:35 rampracer

9:35

sm4faith:

RT @rev_david: Spirit works best among people empowered & trusted to use their gifts. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:35 sm4faith

9:35

scottagunn:

@MeredithGould Why do you like initials? Shouldn't "corp" voice prevail over individual? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:35 scottagunn

9:35

paulsteinbrueck:

@asacredrebel I'm not sure I follow. Can you clarify? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:35 paulsteinbrueck

9:36

MeredithGould:

@scottagunn Depends on how acct is being used. Initials could show an active, vibrant staff. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:36 MeredithGould

9:36

RchrdBott:

@MeredithGould I agree. Initials help us understand that our voice is made up of many voices - and real people. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:36 RchrdBott

9:36

smshepherds:

Great point re: SM in ministry. RT @paulsteinbrueck: Yes, unity in purpose is important. Unity in personality is not.. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:36 smshepherds

9:36

RockingReverend:

RT @rev_david: Spirit works best among people empowered & trusted to use their gifts. #ChSocM [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:36 RockingReverend

9:36

asacredrebel:

@paulsteinbrueck if a group of bloggers write about the same topic but disagree are they not unified by the blog they share? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:36 asacredrebel

9:37

drothamel:

@MeredithGould initials also enable us to appropriately assign the spelling/grammatical errors. :-D #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:37 drothamel

9:37

RevWeb:

@scottagunn @MeredithGould I notice AP and NYT use initials when posting on corp acct. Different tho than diocese w/a msg. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:37 RevWeb

9:37

mgoins:

@RchrdBott @MeredithGould Having edu staff, youth staff, pastoral care staff all on same feed can be awesome! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:37 mgoins

9:37

MeredithGould:

@drothamel Indeed! Grammar Police: To Serve and Correct!! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:37 MeredithGould

9:37

mirgray:

@chsocm #chsocm Like bible studies I prefer to hear many viewpoints if tone remains respectful. So only some topics / issues need policy. [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:37 mirgray

9:38

smshepherds:

If pastoral staff and chuch communicators are allowed to disagree IRL, why not online? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:38 smshepherds

9:38

MeredithGould:

@smshepherds They/we are allowed to disagree IRL? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:38 MeredithGould

9:38

asacredrebel:

@klamach how would you deal with someone saying that? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:38 asacredrebel

9:39

chsocm:

T2 How might the church & faith-based organizations benefit from establishing social media policies? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:39 chsocm

9:39

mgoins:

@drothamel @MeredithGould The way I'm typing tonight, I need your red pen! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:39 mgoins

9:39

Denise205:

@MeredithGould @drothamel Do the grammar police really approve puns? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:39 Denise205

9:40

scottagunn:

@RevWeb @MeredithGould Ok. Tricky to get indiv/corp balance right #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:40 scottagunn

9:40

paulsteinbrueck:

RT @chsocm: T2 How might the church & faith-based organizations benefit from establishing social media policies? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:40 paulsteinbrueck

9:40

mgoins:

@MeredithGould @chsocm Measurement, purpose/mission, audience. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:40 mgoins

9:40

MeredithGould:

@scottagunn Very tricky, which is why it might have to be different for different platforms #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:40 MeredithGould

9:40

sm4faith:

we give people ministry roles because we trust them and sometimes they stuff up - in real life and online - no difference #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:40 sm4faith

9:41

drothamel:

@Denise205 @MeredithGould puns are like donuts for the grammar police! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:41 drothamel

9:41

RevWeb:

T2 Guidelines give multiple posters framework. No flying blind. Helps those reading/editing comments. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:41 RevWeb

9:41

asacredrebel:

T2 Clarity of Mission #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:41 asacredrebel

9:42

Denise205:

@drothamel @MeredithGould I'll have to keep that one in mind! :) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:42 Denise205

9:42

paulsteinbrueck:

@chsocm If by smn policy, we're talking a/b official sm strategy, it provides unity, clarity of purpose. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:42 paulsteinbrueck

9:42

drothamel:

T2: Guidelines can provide organization/structure for orgs. who have many voices to manage. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:42 drothamel

9:42

sm4faith:

t2 may help people new to the medium to get a feel for how they could best contribute #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:42 sm4faith

9:43

asacredrebel:

T2 are these policies things that are written? or is it an understanding with a gate keeper? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:43 asacredrebel

9:43

smshepherds:

If a church wouldn't neglect a policy on doctrine or background checks for nursery workers, they shouldn't neglect a social policy. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:43 smshepherds

9:43

theologybird:

RT @sm4faith: t2 may help people new to the medium to get a feel for how they could best contribute #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:43 theologybird

9:44

RevWeb:

T2 Just a thought. Do policies stifle the Spirit? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:44 RevWeb

9:44

klamach:

@asacredrebel :-) #Chsocm I am learning! [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:44 klamach

9:44

mnplatypus:

Must get home, will catch up via transcript in the AM #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:44 mnplatypus

9:44

mgoins:

T2: Who, what, when, where, why and how you engage (WWWWH) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:44 mgoins

9:44

asacredrebel:

@smshepherds we're suppose to do background checks on nursery workers!!! ;) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:44 asacredrebel

9:45

skenow:

Just joining the chat - thanks for saving me a seat, @chsocm! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:45 skenow

9:45

MeredithGould:

@skenow And its in the front pew...you're the only one sitting there! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:45 MeredithGould

9:45

mgoins:

@RevWeb Only if they're so detailed that there is no room for discussion or revision. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:45 mgoins

9:45

MeredithGould:

it's...I meant it's not its #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:45 MeredithGould

9:46

paulsteinbrueck:

@skenow Welcome Steve! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:46 paulsteinbrueck

9:46

skenow:

@MeredithGould Yes! The front is the best! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:46 skenow

9:46

MeredithGould:

@EmilySO Welcome! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:46 MeredithGould

9:46

Denise205:

@RevWeb The Spirit can work through anything...policies or not #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:46 Denise205

9:46

mgoins:

@MeredithGould @skenow I'm a 3rd pew from front kinda gal (keeps me out of trouble) You an sit with me ;-) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:46 mgoins

9:47

chsocm:

Topic 3...let's squeeze another in during our final 10 minutes... #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:47 chsocm

9:47

asacredrebel:

@RevWeb the Spirit works in spite of us and will work in spite of a policy... #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:47 asacredrebel

9:47

chsocm:

T3 Rather than re-invent the wheel, any industries/sectors from which churches might adopt/adapt social media guidelines? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:47 chsocm

9:47

MeredithGould:

@Denise205 LOL #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:47 MeredithGould

9:47

mirgray:

Bad policies, probably yes. RT @ T2 Just a thought. Do policies stifle the Spirit? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:47 mirgray

9:48

MeredithGould:

Big shock: I was always a back row wiseacre type. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:48 MeredithGould

9:48

skenow:

RT @chsocm: Rather than re-invent the wheel, any industries/sectors from which churches might adopt/adapt social media guidelines? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:48 skenow

9:48

mgoins:

T3: non-profit sm has some great stuff out there. And believe it or not, fundraisers have some amazing sm policies as well. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:48 mgoins

9:48

MeredithGould:

RT @chsocm: T3 Rather than re-invent the wheel, any industries/sectors from which churches might adopt/adapt guidelines? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:48 MeredithGould

9:49

MeredithGould:

@paulsteinbrueck Official policies #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:49 MeredithGould

9:49

asacredrebel:

@mgoins do you have any examples you can share? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:49 asacredrebel

9:50

sm4faith:

I think sm are very fluid, our understanding of how they can be missional is fluid, and policy must therefore also be fluid #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:50 sm4faith

9:50

EmilySO:

Agreed - I'd like to see some too. RT @asacredrebel: @mgoins do you have any examples you can share? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:50 EmilySO

9:50

bfelice:

edu npo SM policies worth a look see #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:50 bfelice

9:50

skenow:

@EmilySO I would say Best Buy is an anomaly - most corporates policies fall into the "Thou shalt not" category #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:50 skenow

9:51

mgoins:

@asacredrebel You just read my mind: http://bit.ly/benJoe #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:51 mgoins

9:51

asacredrebel:

@sm4faith like the waters of baptism?! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:51 asacredrebel

9:51

EmilySO:

@skenow Very true. I was very fortunate to spend some time on the BBY team - so I am "spoiled" #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:51 EmilySO

9:51

mirgray:

+1 RT @ T3: non-profit sm has some great stuff out there. And believe it or not, fundraisers have some amazing sm policies as well. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:51 mirgray

9:51

sm4faith:

If a church adopts a business sm policy, how can that work? Our goals are very different #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:51 sm4faith

9:52

MeredithGould:

@sm4faith Not if the organization/biz is mission-based (e.g., hospital) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:52 MeredithGould

9:52

bfelice:

maybe of interest: secular http://bit.ly/paee8P church/judicatory: http://bit.ly/rhiMoN #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:52 bfelice

9:52

sm4faith:

@MeredithGould depends on the hospital! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:52 sm4faith

9:53

MeredithGould:

@sm4faith True! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:53 MeredithGould

9:53

paulsteinbrueck:

@chsocm I would think we'd want to look to orgs that have a lot of volunteers & engage them in social media. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:53 paulsteinbrueck

9:54

MeredithGould:

RT @paulsteinbrueck: @chsocm I would think we'd want to look to orgs that have a lot of volunteers & engage them in social media. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:54 MeredithGould

9:54

asacredrebel:

@sm4faith also depends on the congregation! Some of them are run like a business #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:54 asacredrebel

9:54

mirgray:

I would disagree. Good ones focus "shalls". MT @skenow @EmilySO Most corporates policies fall into the "Thou shalt not" category #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:54 mirgray

9:54

naaho:

@chsocm sorry I had to miss #chsocm this week. Looking forward to transcript! [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:54 naaho

9:55

sm4faith:

Ok looking at one someone just shared, policy must not be illegal! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:55 sm4faith

9:55

skenow:

Here's a database of social media policies http://ow.ly/6tGlJ #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:55 skenow

9:55

mgoins:

Another example of sm policies can be seen at: http://socialmediagovernance.com/policies.php #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:55 mgoins

9:55

mgoins:

@asacredrebel Ah the joy of being a librarian... meeting info needs! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:55 mgoins

9:56

mattkinsi:

I'm the social media coordinator for @uuca - we've got one too. I'll work on making it public. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:56 mattkinsi

9:56

mgoins:

@skenow Excellent link! You and I are on the same wavelength my friend. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:56 mgoins

9:56

theologybird:

RT @skenow: Heres a database of social media policies http://ow.ly/6tGlJ #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:56 theologybird

9:56

chsocm:

T3a Any guideline that might cross (so to speak) all denominations? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:56 chsocm

9:56

mirgray:

@sm4faith #chsocm Initial goal is same - engage more people. What happens after is different. [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:56 mirgray

9:57

bfelice:

love all the links! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:57 bfelice

9:57

asacredrebel:

RT @chsocm: T3a Any guideline that might cross (so to speak) all denominations? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:57 asacredrebel

9:57

skenow:

@mgoins ;-) #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:57 skenow

9:57

paulsteinbrueck:

@chsocm T3: Always be thinking... what would Jesus tweet? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:57 paulsteinbrueck

9:57

chsocm:

Yet another great chat. Would you believe we're coming up on the hour in a few minutes? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:57 chsocm

9:58

sm4faith:

One of the links suggested a personal and a church facebook account - that is against FBs Terms. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:58 sm4faith

9:58

csalafia:

RT @paulsteinbrueck: @chsocm T3: Always be thinking... what would Jesus tweet? #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:58 csalafia

9:58

paulsteinbrueck:

@MeredithGould Yes and "Get thee behind me Satan!" #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:58 paulsteinbrueck

9:59

mattkinsi:

T3 - Don't tweet/etc. anything you wouldn't want a first time visitor to see/hear when they walk through the door. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:59 mattkinsi

9:59

drothamel:

T3: Love God. Love your neighbor. Do those, and you'll be just fine. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:59 drothamel

9:59

asacredrebel:

@paulsteinbrueck and I always thought that was What Would Judas Tweet... #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:59 asacredrebel

9:59

Denise205:

RT @drothamel: T3: Love God. Love your neighbor. Do those, and youll be just fine. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 9:59 Denise205

10:00

RevWeb:

Amen to that! RT @drothamel: T3: Love God. Love your neighbor. Do those, and youll be just fine. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 10:00 RevWeb

10:00

mgoins:

@MeredithGould WWGT - I'm totally using that... #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 10:00 mgoins

10:00

chsocm:

Love God. Love your neighbor...and with that, we'll conclude with this prayer from Compline #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 10:00 chsocm

10:00

skenow:

@mirgray @EmilySO That is true, my point is 'most' corporate social media policies are not good #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 10:00 skenow

10:00

Denise205:

@chsocm Thanks for moderating another fast-moving chat! #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 10:00 Denise205

10:01

chsocm:

Keep watch, dear Lord, with those who work or watch or weep this night & give your angels charge over those who sleep. #chsocm [via Twitter]

Tuesday September 13, 2011 10:01 chsocm

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