Tuesday, October 8, 2013

Church Social Media Chat: How do different denominations use (or fail to use) social media?

We explored why mainline churches seem unable
to leverage social media tools, especially when
compared to what evangelical churches are doing.

 #ChSocM Tweetchat (10/08/13)(10/08/2013) 
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Welcome to our weekly church and social media (#chsocm) chat. Special welcome those joining for the first time!
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:00 rev_david
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Right on time for -> #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:00 skenow
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Hello #chsocm tweeps! I'm back after a couple weeks away from the group. I always love these discussions.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:01 UrbanNomadUSA
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If you usually just listen in, consider speaking up tonight! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:02 rev_david
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Since @rev_david chose the #muppets theme music, can I call Statler or Waldorf? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:02 saj_nachfolge
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@raushenbush we used way too many candles without permission. Remember that? ;) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 adamwc
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#chsocm Tweetchat (10/08/13) - bit.ly/15Z4FTI We're chatting about church social media at 9PM ET. Join us! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 chsocm
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We always open this chat with prayer before moving on with self-introductions. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 rev_david
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The Lord be with y’all! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 rev_david
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 WillPlatnick
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West coast time zone never worked out for the #chsocm talks but I might try and check it out tonight.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 adamwc
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God, mighty and merciful, we thank you for the wonderful diversity of your church, #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 rev_david
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:03 skenow
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Be present in our conversation tonight, guiding our thought and words #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:04 rev_david
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Bless our ministries, both online and in the flesh, with the power of your Spirit. Amen! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:04 rev_david
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:04 MeredithGould
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RT @rev_david Bless our ministries, both online and in the flesh, with the power of your Spirit. Amen! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:04 MeredithGould
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Next up: intros. What is your church affiliation, and tell how are you currently using social media? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 rev_david
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@adamwc I'm with you! Alaska is one hour behind PST so #chsocm is commute time.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 ofredrick
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@rev_david Praying with and for you all driving back home from an ordination. Have a great chat. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 RevWeb
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#legalvoiceover: we assume tweets during chat are yours & do not represent your church, org, employer, parents, spouse, or neighbor #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 rev_david
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<- Director of Communications, @UpstateNYSynod, @ELCA - FB, Twitter, Pinterest, Google Plus, email and Linkedin. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 nealffischer
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#legalvoiceover No spam. Please don’t use this hour of chat to pitch your product, service, etc. Thanks! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:05 rev_david
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I’m a Presbyterian pastor, do a ton on Facebook and Instagram with church. Connect with youth and everyone else. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:06 adamwc
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<- David, tonight’s moderator. #ELCA pastor in rural Texas. Occasional teacher and encourager of pastors/congregations in using #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:06 rev_david
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@rev_david I'm ELCA Intern in Arden NC, and I'm trying to learn about using social media effectively. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:06 JaredJLee89
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I also do social media training, website design, and that is not part of my normal full time gig but on the side when able #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:06 adamwc
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ELCA Conference Deacon, Developer/Operations at the YouVersion Bible App, a ministry of LifeChurch.tv (Evangelical Covenant) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 WillPlatnick
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I'm #elca Lutheran, pastor, personally active on SM & starting to build a presence for the congregation I serve. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 saj_nachfolge
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Julie, AiM in the @ELCA, Admissions @GettSem, using social media to connect past, present, & future members of our community #ChSocM
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 ohxjulie
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<-communications ministry consultant, sociologist, author, founder of #chsocm chat, fiercely ecumenical, gadfly, etc.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 MeredithGould
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 nealffischer
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I'm the senior editor for @HuffPostRelig and run the twitter feed for now, write, think about religion and the internet #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 raushenbush
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 WillPlatnick
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@rev_david first Director for Evangelical Mission to have job description list social media ELCA northeastern Iowa synod #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:07 PastorJoelle
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Please keep your intros going - I'm going to give some background for tonight. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:08 rev_david
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Lay church planter, stewardship educator in Alaska. Involve and lead several online communities. #umc #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:08 ofredrick
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@raushenbush Are you still in/at Princeton? I've lost track! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:08 MeredithGould
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:08 WillPlatnick
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#chsocm Former Adult Ministries Director, Church Communications Consultant Facebook Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, etc... #lovemyjob
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:08 kdunigan
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During the #elcainstallation of our new Presiding Bishop, @raushenbush pointed out that you could combine mainline denomination #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:09 rev_david
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Just call me 'Steve'. Not afraid of tech, often frustrated by it. Attend #ELCA, build websites, pull weeds, water flowers #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:09 skenow
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@raushenbush Ah, we left P'ton around the same time, then. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:09 MeredithGould
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:09 kdunigan
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Senior Seminarian, Director of Communications and CYF ministries at an ELCA church in NYC (Hi @UrbanNomadUSA!). #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 stynxno
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It’s @Karina_L here through @creativecomm_co :) arms dealer for church communication leaders lol #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 creativecomm_co
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... And those mainline accts combined would only be a fraction of 1 evangelical pastors acct combined. #ch
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 rev_david
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Great to see so many new people tonight! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 MeredithGould
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RT @MeredithGould Great to see so many new people tonight! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 nealffischer
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.. And those mainline accts combined would only be a fraction of 1 evangelical pastors acct combined. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 rev_david
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Hi, #chsocm friends. I do sm & website for @TrinityTville, admin a handful of fb pages, teach parents & others about sm. Happy to be here.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:10 singingcarolyn
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@reckshow It's actually more like 3. Too long. Would you believe I miss Princeton?? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 MeredithGould
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Yes, this means you! MT @rev_david: You there-awesome person using social media for your ministry! Join us @ tonight's #chsocm chat, 9pmET.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 singingcarolyn
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ELCA pastor in SE Iowa. Lot of Facebook with the church. Getting into 4square & Instagram. Trying to push Twitter. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 eric_clapp
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Tons of ELCA folks here. Where are the Presbys? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 adamwc
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Hi everyone! Presbyterian, possible new communcication participant for our congregation. donut lover #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 kellydouglas
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ProTip: if you use twubs or tweet chat the #chsocm hashtag will be automagically added
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 MeredithGould
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@MeredithGould Some of us have to schedule #chsocm around bedtime for little tweeple. I want to make this a priority. :-)
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 saj_nachfolge
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Hi adam! Presby here! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:11 kellydouglas
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Examples: @ELCA has 4.5m members, but 10k twitter followers. @MarsHill has 14k weekend attendance, but 58k twitter followers #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:12 rev_david
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@kellydouglas Apple Cider donut time is a magical time #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:12 WillPlatnick
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RT @rev_david Exam: @ELCA has 4.5m members, but 10k twitter followers.@MarsHill has 14k weekend attendance, 58k twitter followers #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 MeredithGould
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RT @MeredithGould ProTip: if you use twubs or tweet chat the #chsocm hashtag will be automagically added
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 WillPlatnick
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@saj_nachfolge @MeredithGould Tweetinf via iPhone in the dark while @CalebElijahWC falls asleep. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 adamwc
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T1 - What factors keep non-evangelical churches from using social media as effectively? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 rev_david
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Such a GREAT crowd tonight! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 kdunigan
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<muttering> Numbers does not equal engagement, which is the "social" part of social media. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:13 MeredithGould
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RT @MeredithGould &lt;muttering&gt; Numbers does not equal engagement, which is the "social" part of social media. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 skenow
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Admissions @WartburgSem, in the call process, active in personal SM, secretly want to be @ohxjulie when I grow up. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 JealaineMarple
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Sorry I'm late. Was delivering a care package to a family in my neighborhood who I just found out 20 min ago is in need. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 LuckyCharm333
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It’s because mainline churches are filled with old folks and we are all dying - these people are not on Twitter. #chsocm #plainandsimple
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 adamwc
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@MeredithGould Ok. @JoelOsteen has 4k RT's on latest tweet. Is that engagement for your muttering? :) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 rev_david
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T1: Without any statistics to back it up, I would guess age is a factor. Higher average age in mainlines, lower average age on SM. #ChSocM
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:14 ohxjulie
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RT @MeredithGould <muttering>; Numbers does not equal engagement, which is the "social" part of social media. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 singingcarolyn
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#chsocm I'm late. Again:) I'm that one annoying teen blogger. Hola.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 aliveforjesus
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What is clear to me is that there is DISDAIN for social media in the mainline church leadership - it is fool hardy and perilous #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 raushenbush
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 rev_david
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T1: we suffer from "we've never done it that way before." #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 JealaineMarple
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T1 IMHO it's not a technology issue, it's a symptom of how mainline's haven't done a great job at evangelism in general #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:15 WillPlatnick
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 kellydouglas
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@saj_nachfolge I have to schedule #chsocm around MY bedtime... and tonight my bed might win :) @MeredithGould
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 reckshow
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 Schnekloth
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@raushenbush Say more about that, Paul. In the audience (congregation) or in the leadership? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 rev_david
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@rev_david I could not possibly care less about @JoelOsteen's numbers. I DO care about regular pastors like you & your engagement! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 MeredithGould
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T1 in my parish, I think age is the main factor. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 st_judes_church
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Uh, harsh? RT @adamwc Because mainline churches are filled with old folks and we are all dying - these people are not on Twitter. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:16 singingcarolyn
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Old people ARE on social ministry! Assumption they are not is part of the problem! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 PastorJoelle
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T1 - speaking of strict numbers, I'd say generational trends. "Mainline" is mostly boomers & older, rural = late adopters #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 saj_nachfolge
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T1: The feeling that there's "no one" in my church to "do it" #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 stynxno
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T1 Begs the question: How do we define "effectively"? I don't consider a deluge of redundant content effective. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 MeredithGould
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If Mars Hill was filled with people in their 60s and up and not many young people, it’d be the same case for them. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 adamwc
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@adamwc the largest growing segment on #SM is seniors #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 skenow
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T1: Mainlines may have more members, but evangelical churches have more in one place. Easier to cultivate/spread a mindset. #ChSocM
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 ohxjulie
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@raushenbush Disdain or fear? Or is that a distinction without a difference? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 MeredithGould
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Hey peeps- it's that magical time of the week when I will be participating in our #chsocm chat. Please mute or pardon the unusual messages
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 kellydouglas
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T1: My experience is that mainline churches aren't putting $$ into it, so unless they have fab volunteers, it isn't happening. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 singingcarolyn
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@WillPlatnick: Yes, and there is a tendency to look inward instead of use every means possible to look outward. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 UrbanNomadUSA
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@singingcarolyn @adamwc I think I am going to be really quiet or really careful in this chat... 0.0 #chsocm is there anyone else under 20?
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:17 aliveforjesus
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Accidentally ended up on the #chsocm chat! I'm usually putting my little people to bed. Nice to see everyone! @laurenhhunter
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 ChurchTechToday
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T1: There are many reasons. Not all denoms. have invested enough in it. Staff/Cash/etc. to give it a chance. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 nealffischer
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 skenow
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 PastorJoelle
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@adamwc @rev_david It's true. Had a meeting tonight where a group was lamenting e-mail. Twitter is a non-starter for a lot of folks #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 eric_clapp
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Although interestingly, the main people engaged in our #chsocm ministry are over 40. We're a small church so it's a small # overall.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 st_judes_church
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after the meeting I had this morning, I would say it comes from a pure lack of understanding #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 kellydouglas
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T1: Yes, older people are on SM, but they don't always automatically think to integrate it with every aspect of life like milennials #ChSocM
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:18 ohxjulie
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Pope Benedict said online reality IS reality, it is where people are, to avoid it is to abandons people, the church abdicating #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 raushenbush
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T1 - Really? It's not a corporate thing, it's personal #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 skenow
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T1a - Pushing deeper: Is the reluctance for #chsocm among non-evangelicals rooted in audience (congregation) or leadership?
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 rev_david
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pastor Lutheran in Fayetteville Arkansas. Book Mediating Faith: Faith Formation in Transmedia Culture out from Fortress Press 2014 #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 Schnekloth
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T1cont.: Also, I would suggest that demographics also play a role. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 nealffischer
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T1 Mainline's don't do enough to encourage their members to share their faith. Not in "real life" or social media #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 WillPlatnick
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Is Google Plus being used by anyone successfully as a social media outreach tool? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 ChurchTechToday
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MT @MeredithGould Important to distinguish types of accounts: "superstars," institutional accounts, local churches, individuals #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:19 rev_david
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@raushenbush Yeah, @Pontifex got that from me! I'm sure he read my book. ;-) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 MeredithGould
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@WillPlatnick I like how you are pushing into the theological underpinnings. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 rev_david
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 MeredithGould
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@raushenbush I know some evangelical catholics in the #elca that are going to be horrified by this tweet. <evil grin> #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 saj_nachfolge
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I think this post I wrote is what @raushenbush is talking about. There is disdain: pomomusings.com/2013/03/05/pre… They think it’s a fad. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 adamwc
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T1a - Pushing deeper: Is the reluctance for #chsocm among non-evangelicals rooted in audience (congregation) or in leadership?
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:20 rev_david
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T1 My sociological guess: it's also due to fear of the "e" word: evangelism, which sounds like evangelical. Vewy scawy to mainline. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:21 MeredithGould
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T1- many of the people in my church on sm are older, but not all who run the church page or whatever know what's going on beforehand #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:21 aliveforjesus
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T1a: Both. Cyclical: Leadership will use more SM if congregants engage with it if leadership uses more SM. #ChSocM
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:21 ohxjulie
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:21 kdunigan
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@saj_nachfolge Evangelical...Roman Catholics? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:21 MeredithGould
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T1a in my parish, the leadership was enthusiastic - just not that many members engaged in social media (although it's growing) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 st_judes_church
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T1a I know one church that is scared of new members. Honest to God. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 LuckyCharm333
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RT @rev_david T1a - Pushing deeper: Is the reluctance for #chsocm among non-evangelicals rooted in audience (congregation) or in leadership?
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 MeredithGould
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@rev_david I'd say both. Sure, audience is adopting late. But there are plenty of leaders openly hostile to #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 saj_nachfolge
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T1: also the "tribe" mentality - don't need quick communication, people know what's happening and how to get involved #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 jensandmann
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RT @LuckyCharm333 T1a I know one church that is scared of new members. Honest to God. #chsocm // Just 1? :)
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 rev_david
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@rev_david T1a: both. I’ve seen many older pastors mock Twitter and make fun of Facebook in sermons. Only shows you’re irrelevant. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 adamwc
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T1a Both. Fear of technology, fear of culture change collapsed & conflated into fear #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:22 MeredithGould
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T1a I honestly think the reluctance comes from a basic knowledge of how to. It's fear rearing its ugly head. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 JealaineMarple
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RT @MeredithGould T1a Both. Fear of technology, fear of culture change collapsed &amp; conflated into fear #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 rev_david
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T1A: Not to be a smart.... but the answer is yes. But, seriously it seems to be a native user vs. learned use. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 nealffischer
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T1a There is also a lot of fear around SM. Ppl hear so many horror stories, esp seniors being scammed. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 LuckyCharm333
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T1a Ultimately it's both, but a leader has to lead and take responsibility. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 WillPlatnick
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Episcopal church leader has 1,200 followers ELCA leader has no followers - visionary offline, nowhere online - really amazing #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 raushenbush
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T1a Also in the way: confusing technical skills (relatively easy to acquire) w/spiritual gifts (not so easy to identify) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:23 MeredithGould
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@ChurchTechToday Google+ not really useful in community-buildling, but does help bring folks to the site! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 singingcarolyn
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I don't think it's fear of tech as much as fear of talking abt faith. Fear of being labeled. Fear of the "e-word." #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 reckshow
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@MeredithGould Some ecumenically-minded #elca folks like the moniker "evangelical catholic" - and very much against #chsocm on the whole
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 saj_nachfolge
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T1a: I think social media can scare leaders as they realize they are no longer controlling the message, everyone has a mouthpiece. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 UrbanNomadUSA
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T1: Started @ a new cong. 2 months ago. Posted on their FB page twice in 1 week & they were over the moon. Leaders play a big part. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 eric_clapp
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@raushenbush Get past the numbers. What's the engagement like? TEC church leader has someone tweeting for her & a robust staff. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:24 MeredithGould
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T1a- Both, though the leader would be well advised to keep the audience in mind #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:25 aliveforjesus
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T2 - What can other traditions learn from evangelical churches about social media? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:25 rev_david
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RT @ohxjulie T1a: Both. Cyclical: Leadership will use more SM if congregants engage with it if leadership uses more SM. #ChSocM
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:25 singingcarolyn
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T1a reluctance also comes from not knowing how SM could help. Seen as just "one more thing." #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 JealaineMarple
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@eric_clapp same here. Started 8/1 and we now have double FB Likes and people are “AMAZED” and I’m just posting a photo or two. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 adamwc
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T2 Evangelical churches have always been at the forefront of using technology not just social media. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 MeredithGould
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Look at Pope Francis, Dalai Lama, peoplewant to hear something beautiful, or learn something new, be enlightened. How is this hard? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 raushenbush
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@raushenbush Thanks for making the time tonight!!
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 rev_david
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T2: No evangelical church has had a major meltdown or shut its doors because they used more social media. That I know of, anyway. #ChSocM
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 ohxjulie
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@MeredithGould Why do you suppose that is? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 LuckyCharm333
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Lack of control is difficult for some older church leaders #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 PastorJoelle
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T2 Mainline's are smaller and therefore in their minds, their context is local and and excel at it. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:26 WillPlatnick
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 MeredithGould
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RT @PastorJoelle: Lack of control is difficult for some older church leaders #chsocm // So true!
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 rev_david
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RT @WillPlatnick T2 Mainline's are smaller and therefore in their minds, their context is local and and excel at it. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 LuckyCharm333
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Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 adamwc
9:27
Man, SO late for the #chsocm chat. Too much happening right now...
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 pastorcylar
9:27
@ChurchTechToday Yes, for personal outreach/engagement, but our parish only uses Twitter/Facebook (direct & via ConstantContact). #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 Fr_CW
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T2 big difference I've noticed is using #chsocm for spreading the gospel vs spreading announcements.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 st_judes_church
9:27
@MeredithGould Evangelical churches more tech-accepting. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 LuckyCharm333
9:27
@MeredithGould Props for using that saying properly. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 cgubsch
9:27
T2: Mainliners can learn from their daily/hourly posts & updates. If church people are on Fb and Twitter, why not talk about church? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 RevDavidYonker
9:27
#chsocm if that's where the people are... What's that song, 'carry your candle...'
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 aliveforjesus
9:27
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:27 rev_david
9:28
@LuckyCharm333 @MeredithGould again, age and generation has something to do with it. And they get cultural trends better. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 adamwc
9:28
@PastorJoelle Retweet Favorite - is there anything more I can do to LOVE this tweet? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 saj_nachfolge
9:28
T2 Because more evangelical churches are larger I think they aim "higher". They evangelize to the whole world. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 WillPlatnick
9:28
@adamwc Exactly. I started 7/22 & we have way more engagement on FB. And yeah, I'm tossing up a quote or a photo. Nothing huge. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 eric_clapp
9:28
RT @WillPlatnick T2 Because more evangelical churches are larger I think they aim "higher". They evangelize to the whole world. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 rev_david
9:28
@WillPlatnick "Aim higher" - I like that. Dream bigger. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:28 rev_david
9:29
T2 Mainlines want to use SM for broadcast tool, not for engagement. Lack understanding of potential. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:29 ofredrick
9:29
#chsocm Late to the conversation, but this is who I am -> Disciples of Christ pastor in Southeast Iowa
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:29 RevDavidYonker
9:29
#chsocm IF "success" is measured by streaming out "inspirational quotes" & links to content, then some big churches win.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:29 MeredithGould
9:29
T1 What if it is a lack of self confidence. We are small so what difference cab #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:29 Schnekloth
9:30
Ex: my church buys google adwords for porn keywords to drive people with addiction problems to their online services, big thinking #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:30 WillPlatnick
9:30
T1 what if it lack of self confidence. We are small so what difference can we make? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:30 Schnekloth
9:30
@MeredithGould Catholic lay people do feel engaged when they get a tweet from the pope and forward it - absolutely #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:30 raushenbush
9:30
Great Q Clint! // RT @Schnekloth T1 What if it is a lack of self confidence? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:30 rev_david
9:31
mindlessly RT the awesomeness that is #chsocm because I have no mental capacity left to join the conversation. Keep doing great work!
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 cgubsch
9:31
@saj_nachfolge heck lack of control difficult for all church leaders--even me at times #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 PastorJoelle
9:31
Way too many things to say this topic! :-) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 skenow
9:31
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 MeredithGould
9:31
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 ofredrick
9:31
T2 When we set our goal on spreading the gospel EVERYWHERE, mainlines will bring something amazingly special to the Kingdom #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:31 WillPlatnick
9:32
RT @Schnekloth: T1 We are small so what difference #chsocm // Yet the irony is that small can make almost as big an impact on social media.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 UrbanNomadUSA
9:32
@adamwc T1a Some leaders do that to try to somehow "prove" they are not susceptible to fads in the church, "fads" here being #sm #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 pastorcylar
9:32
#chsocm not sure which Q this is- but some little churches have no presence on sm- my local church isn't here, so i found you people:)
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 aliveforjesus
9:32
T2: Understand that what works today is sometimes more important than what worked yesterday. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 jensandmann
9:32
@raushenbush @MeredithGould agreed Paul. Hell, I feel engaged with when I get a tweet from the pope! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 adamwc
9:32
@WaytoLEAD Sadly I think it's more about faith than sm #ChsocM
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:32 peggy_hahn
9:33
"We are small so what difference." They need to learn how one selfie texted to one woman went viral. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 LuckyCharm333
9:33
@raushenbush Not minimizing it, just work within another part of the Catholic world. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 MeredithGould
9:33
@KarinGraddy It is the unknown. I can't control it. Someone might say something mean and I can't run to mommy about it. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 nealffischer
9:33
RT @jensandmann T2: Understand that what works today is sometimes more important than what worked yesterday. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 KarinGraddy
9:33
Twitter has dedicated a person to work with evangelicals - because they get 3x the engagement of celebrities! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 skenow
9:33
@adamwc @raushenbush You do know that you are not getting a tweet from the pope. You're getting a tweet from his tweeting team. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 MeredithGould
9:33
T2: I think a lot of Mainline pastors don't know where to start with SM. So that anxiety translates to inaction. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 eric_clapp
9:33
T2: I wonder if evangelicals have a better handle on their expected "end results" with SM than mainline churches. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:33 stynxno
9:34
Does anyone know if any of the mainline churches have an internet or social media office? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:34 raushenbush
9:34
Yr right: RT @nealffischer It is the unknown. I can't control it. Someone might say something mean n I can't run to mommy about it. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:34 KarinGraddy
9:34
T2cont: not to say abandon traditions, but be willing to put the Mission first. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:34 jensandmann
9:34
@LuckyCharm333 Not sure that's an evangelism strategy I want to utilize, though. ;-) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:34 saj_nachfolge
9:34
T3 How can we encourage the churches we are in to make greater use of these tools? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:34 rev_david
9:35
I once told a small church pastor whose congregation wanted him on twitter to take it as a compliment - they want to hear from you! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 raushenbush
9:35
T3 - how can we make people not afraid?? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 KarinGraddy
9:35
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 tellthestories
9:35
@raushenbush Yes, they all do & those offices have been gutted over the years. They're also mostly staffed by print-oriented folks. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 MeredithGould
9:35
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 PastorJoelle
9:35
@jensandmann True - but why not both? It's not an either/or proposition. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 saj_nachfolge
9:35
@MeredithGould @raushenbush that’s just accepted in SM world I think. And I’m ok with that. Heck, this is Adam’s tweeting team. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 adamwc
9:35
@MeredithGould No. But our denominational and judicatory staffs do. Or should. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:35 rev_david
9:36
@rev_david I'm starting to provide education classes on the how & why of #chsocm It's exciting!! Our excitement should be contagious!
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:36 kdunigan
9:36
What is so wrong with making a mistake and admitting it, apologizing, and moving on? None of us are Jesus! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:36 KarinGraddy
9:36
T3 Mainline churches have to overcome their fear of evangelism. Without it, they will die, even if they are social media experts. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:36 WillPlatnick
9:36
@rev_david And how much time do we spend trying to train local & judicatory staff?!? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:36 MeredithGould
9:36
MT @WillPlatnick T3 Mainline churches have to overcome their fear of evangelism. Without it, they will die... #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:36 LuckyCharm333
9:37
@UrbanNomadUSA right that is what viral is all about! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 Schnekloth
9:37
@raushenbush I applied for a Social Media position at PC(USA) about 5 months ago. They were hiring. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 adamwc
9:37
T3 if our congregations/organizations are using SM, please make sure the info is accurate. Wrong worship times make Jesus cry. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 JealaineMarple
9:37
@MeredithGould @rev_david want to empty a building? Light a fire in the basement, not on the roof #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 skenow
9:37
Wet blanket alert: MT @MeredithGould You do know you're not getting a tweet from the pope. It's a tweet from his tweeting team. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 singingcarolyn
9:37
@WillPlatnick T2 Mainlines' local context is all the more reason to use #sm. That sm is just for global outreach is a misconception #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 pastorcylar
9:37
MT @KarinGraddy We all seem to be so afraid of making a mistake on SM - so we/they don't use it. #chsocm // The liability question. Yup.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 rev_david
9:37
I am not afraid to make a mistake in front of my children. I use it as an opportunity to model how to apologize and make up for it! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:37 KarinGraddy
9:38
@singingcarolyn Sorry. Mea mongo culpa. Santa is real & so is the Easter Bunny! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 MeredithGould
9:38
T3 Once the passion for sharing Jesus is there, people will figure out the tools and do everything necessary to communicate it #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 WillPlatnick
9:38
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 LuckyCharm333
9:38
#chsocm Just RTed a question from @cgubsch's friend - everything we do in SM is an outreach opportunity. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 saj_nachfolge
9:38
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 SophiaKris
9:38
What a shame we have to be so hog-tied because of legal crud. @rev_david #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 KarinGraddy
9:38
@pastorcylar I agree, but we were talking numbers, which I agree isn't the best metric :) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 WillPlatnick
9:38
T3: Leading by example. Seminaries teaching it? When I taught, it took a couple of years for the kids to be "mine." #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 nealffischer
9:38
T3: Help congregations understand how #ChSocM cultivates community. That's often a barrier.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 ohxjulie
9:38
#chsocm Hey I'm delighted when people are inspired by tweets from @Pontifex. *I'm* inspired by them, but it's not a indicator of...much.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:38 MeredithGould
9:39
Hey All, this has been awesome! Have to jump off to do social for @HuffPostRelig - so glad to have been a part of it #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 raushenbush
9:39
RT @nealffischer T3: Leading by example. Seminaries teaching it? When I taught, it took a couple of years for the kids to be "mine." #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 rev_david
9:39
RT @skenow: Twitter has dedicated a person to work with evangelicals - because they get 3x the engagement of celebrities! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 MeredithGould
9:39
T3 So why isn't ol' Joel whoever afraid of legal crud? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 KarinGraddy
9:39
@rev_david next synod newsletter will have article by me telling pastors what they can do in 20 min on Facebook #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 PastorJoelle
9:39
RT @ohxjulie T3: Help congregations understand how #ChSocM cultivates community. That's often a barrier.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 rev_david
9:39
So true. RT @MeredithGould #chsocm Could we please visit the Earth Plane? Most clergy do not have teams of communications pros.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 singingcarolyn
9:39
@saj_nachfolge Agreed, not either/or. Meant don't let traditional ways of engaging inhibit living the mission of the church. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 jensandmann
9:39
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 rev_david
9:39
@RevDavidYonker Sure, you may get a tweeting team when you have the resource$ for it! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:39 MeredithGould
9:40
@KarinGraddy I would suggest he has a team behind him. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:40 nealffischer
9:40
@WillPlatnick #chsocm T3 Truth! We had the best news to share so we should't be afraid to get after it and share it!
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:40 RevDavidYonker
9:40
.@raushenbush You should check out the work that @SophiaKris does for UMC. Led a Wildly successful Lent photoaday thing last yr #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:40 adamwc
9:40
Well yeah, @NealFischer - but they ain't Jesus either!! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:40 KarinGraddy
9:40
RT @PretzelMatt: #chsocm Could we please visit the Earth Plane? Most clergy do not have teams of communications pros.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:40 creativecomm_co
9:41
YES! RT @RevDavidYonker #chsocm T3 Truth! We had the best news to share so we should't be afraid to get after it and share it!
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 KarinGraddy
9:41
#chsocm at #ambs we started an online graduate degree in theology. I am co-teaching an intro to the #bible online and it is going well
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 safwatmarzouk
9:41
@raushenbush Could give you a list of competent, talented #chsocm pros @SophiaKris is on it, as is @ohxjulie!
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 MeredithGould
9:41
@raushenbush thanks for joining. It was my first tonight. Not sure why so many were pushing back on you so much… #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 adamwc
9:41
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 MeredithGould
9:41
Mainline has less of a broadcast mentality than evangelicals. But they have a social justice focus and justice gets less retweets #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:41 Schnekloth
9:42
T4: How can non-evangelicals go about learning from evangelical about communications ministry? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 rev_david
9:42
@WillPlatnick oh okay, I'm way behind this evening... #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 pastorcylar
9:42
@ofredrick I think that unless mainline's emphasize that we have the best news around to share, they (we) will fail #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 WillPlatnick
9:42
I can not emphasize this enough. You only get out of something what you invest in it. People, time, resources. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 nealffischer
9:42
@saj_nachfolge I fb and tweet links to my online newsletters #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 KarinGraddy
9:42
T3 if you are SM savvy, offer workshops, lessons, etc to colleagues or the like. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:42 JealaineMarple
9:43
Why IS it that SO many people are afraid of social media? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:43 KarinGraddy
9:43
T4 We don't have to look at evangelicals to do it well, we have plenty of people doing amazing jobs in mainline denominations #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:43 WillPlatnick
9:43
YES! RT @nealffischer I can not emphasize this enough. You only get out of something what you invest in it. People, time, resources. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:43 KarinGraddy
9:43
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:43 tellthestories
9:44
T4 look, listen. Try. Repeat. Find what works, roll with it. Or find a techie in the church and ask them how to do such and such #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 aliveforjesus
9:44
@tellthestories @KarinGraddy Ppl are afraid b/c they think all privacy will be gone, identity stolen, etc. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 LuckyCharm333
9:44
@KarinGraddy YES. #chsocm also has the advantage of easy multiplication. One click and good stuff is going out to others.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 saj_nachfolge
9:44
@saj_nachfolge we have print newsletter too. I post pdf on website, announce on FB (we're not active yet on Twitter) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 jensandmann
9:44
@WillPlatnick And how do we encourage / learn from those folks within our churches? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 rev_david
9:44
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 KarinGraddy
9:44
RT @saj_nachfolge @KarinGraddy YES. #chsocm also has the advantage of easy multiplication. One click and good stuff is going out to others.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:44 rev_david
9:45
@WillPlatnick Leadership, for sure. Now to get laity on board also. #chsocm will work best at grassroots
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 saj_nachfolge
9:45
At the end of the day I'm not sure every mainline church is set up to work with SM in their context. My internship site isn't #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 JaredJLee89
9:45
@LuckyCharm333 So why are we so worried about privacy? I have nothing to hide! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 KarinGraddy
9:45
@rev_david Ultimately, I think our leaders (us) need to step up and start shaping the message we preach to our congregations #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 WillPlatnick
9:45
T4: I feel like I look more to "secular" bloggers or entrepreneurs for SM ideas. Mix up content. Connect people. Help create meaning #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 eric_clapp
9:45
You there - awesome person using social media for your ministry! Join us at tonight's #chsocm chat, 9pm ET.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 rev_david
9:45
#chsocm Done well, takes strategic & tactical smarts as well as knowledge about church & faith.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 MeredithGould
9:45
T5 - If you could change 1 thing about how your church/org/denomination communicates, what would it be? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 rev_david
9:45
Top Twitter engagers are not celebrities, they're Christians - qub.me/Ct1wyr #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:45 skenow
9:46
@KarinGraddy I'm not. That's why I'm here. :-) #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:46 LuckyCharm333
9:46
T4: Evangelicals do NOT hold back about their beliefs on social media. Mainliners should be so bold, for the sake of the Gospel. #ChSocM
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:46 ohxjulie
9:46
T4 Church Social Media becomes incredibly easy when you have a clear message to communicate #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:46 WillPlatnick
9:46
How will this attitude towards minister $ affect the future of ministry? #LCMS #chsocm - # of unpaid ministers up kansascity.com/2013/10/05/452…
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:46 webbnf
9:46
T3: Thinking about having a community class on SM, then following up with FB contest- need good contest idea-to show reach. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:46 jensandmann
9:47
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:47 kellydouglas
9:47
T5 - If you could change 1 thing ab how your church/org/denomination communicates, what would it be? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:47 rev_david
9:47
RT @rev_david T5 - If you could change 1 thing ab how your church/org/denomination communicates, what would it be? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:47 MeredithGould
9:47
T5 I think they should "follow" their congregants more - engaging them, and seeing, exactly where they are at. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:47 stynxno
9:48
RT @stynxno T5 I think they should "follow" their congregants more - engaging them, and seeing, exactly where they are at. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 LuckyCharm333
9:48
T4: get a little less polite. Not offensive, but genuine engagement means risking ruffled feathers. My Swedish forbears would HATE #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 saj_nachfolge
9:48
@WillPlatnick do you think our complex and contextualized message makes it harder to use over SM? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 JaredJLee89
9:48
@rev_david That the communication is actually there. And clear and easy to understand. Oops.. that's 3 things... #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 vlhoppes
9:48
T5 I wish my seminary had a larger twitter presence. We're losing out on a lot with our absence. Yes, I've offered. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 JealaineMarple
9:48
t5 I wish they would be brave enough to give up some control #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 PastorJoelle
9:48
RT @stynxno T5 I think they should "follow" their congregants more - engaging them, and seeing, exactly where they are at. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 MeredithGould
9:48
T4 #chsocm For one, by doing what a Catholic priest like me is doing, following Twitter/Facebook accounts such as @rev_david & @chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 Fr_CW
9:48
RT @nealffischer T5: We need to invest in communication as a whole. Downsizing let a lot of talented people go out of necessity. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:48 rev_david
9:49
RT @PastorJoelle t5 I wish they would be brave enough to give up some control #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 rev_david
9:49
T5: I think SM works best when its primary motive is to connect -- people, ideas, themes, events, etc. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 eric_clapp
9:49
@saj_nachfolge @WillPlatnick Build it & they will come. The key is to be consistent, otherwise people won't trust what you build. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 kdunigan
9:49
T5 - Understand the breadth and potential of online communities. We can grow using #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 ofredrick
9:49
T4: before it was the church secretary typing announcements into a pre-printed bulletin shell, now it involves planning & strategy.. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 creativecomm_co
9:49
T5 I'd change/fix the website! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 MeredithGould
9:49
@JaredJLee89 Great question! I definitely think a multifacted message is harder to communicate. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 WillPlatnick
9:49
T5 I wish churches/judicatories would understand & use a "brand ambassador" strategy for #chsocm & stop launching institutional accounts
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:49 MeredithGould
9:50
MT @KarinGraddy I don't think faith-talk has to be all religious. Faith can be shown through justice, caring, etc. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 LuckyCharm333
9:50
T5: We need to invest in communication as a whole. Downsizing let a lot of talented people go out of necessity. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 nealffischer
9:50
so, so late coming in....just got back from mtg. #chsocm will read and introduce next Tuesday (hopefully)
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 embeddedfaith
9:50
@MeredithGould @stynxno Because sometimes "church staff" loses touch with what congregants deal with out in the "real world." #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 kdunigan
9:50
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 rev_david
9:50
@rev_david @PastorJoelle I truly don't believe it is about control as much as what can be done with fewer staff. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 nealffischer
9:50
RT @eric_clapp: T5: I think SM works best when its primary motive is to connect -- people, ideas, themes, events, etc. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:50 creativecomm_co
9:51
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 SophiaKris
9:51
Evangelicals tend to all stick to the same political party/issues, but we are more welcoming: broader. Maybe we're afraid to offend? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 KarinGraddy
9:51
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 PastorJoelle
9:51
amen. RT @rev_david RT @ohxjulie T3: Help congregations understand how #ChSocM cultivates community. That's often a barrier.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 kellydouglas
9:51
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 rev_david
9:51
@MeredithGould Yes, "brand embassador" is what evangelicals are doing well. I find it unnerving to interact with institutions on sm. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 singingcarolyn
9:51
@WillPlatnick @JaredJLee89 For really complex stuff, #chsocm can be an entry point. Denom. blogs, church FB pages, etc.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 saj_nachfolge
9:51
@MeredithGould I think it can be both and re: institutional accts and brand ambassador. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 nealffischer
9:51
T5: good comm. and #chsocm means allowing and asking people to actively write/experience themselves in God's story and a church's mission.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:51 cgubsch
9:52
T4 - listen to @SocMediaChurch podcast, follow @Pontifex, and #chsocm participants
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 skenow
9:52
RT @nealffischer: I can not emphasize this enough. You only get out of something what you invest in it. People, time, resources. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 kellydouglas
9:52
#chsocm It's all here! bit.ly/OYeJb8 What the strategy is & why I advocate it.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 MeredithGould
9:52
Maybe we don't even have same political leanings as other folks in church office, therefore can't trust anyone else to say something #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 KarinGraddy
9:52
RT @eric_clapp: T5: I think SM works best when its primary motive is to connect #chsocm // Yes! So much more effective than broadcasting.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 UrbanNomadUSA
9:52
T5: Broad based consistent communication using best available resources/outlets. Don't assume ppl "just know." #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 jensandmann
9:52
Hey @MeredithGould - I know we've talked about it, but maybe we need to have another #brandambassador topic one week. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 rev_david
9:52
Today we launched an instagram account. One small victory for this loudmouth #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 kellydouglas
9:52
@singingcarolyn @MeredithGould This is a great point. Hadn't considered it before. What does that say about congregational #chsocm stuff?
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:52 saj_nachfolge
9:53
@ohxjulie I want to be there for that. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 singingcarolyn
9:53
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 rev_david
9:53
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 JealaineMarple
9:53
@ohxjulie @eric_clapp Let me hit you up on FB about this. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 rev_david
9:53
@rev_david Agree. I'll revisit it when it's my turn to mod! My newest workshop is on that stuff. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 MeredithGould
9:53
@rev_david @eric_clapp Like an ELCA #ChSocM unconference. WANT.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:53 ohxjulie
9:54
@kellydouglas Congratulations!!! :-) I worked with a church this month....and now they tweet! Super excited! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 kdunigan
9:54
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 saj_nachfolge
9:54
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 LuckyCharm333
9:54
.@rev_david @MeredithGould I *need* a Brand Ambassador/Apostle. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 JesusOfNaz316
9:54
#chsocm Simply put: It's more powerful to have 3rd parties (congregants) talk about how great your church is than your church to do that.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 MeredithGould
9:54
Thanks all for having this convo with me tonight! Was very helpful for me, and I hope it was for you too. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 rev_david
9:54
But I think many folks - even within our own denom - see the "Gospel" in different ways (depending on their political party).?? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 KarinGraddy
9:54
@rev_david @ohxjulie @eric_clapp Count me in, too. If I can help. Or just show up and be a smartass. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:54 saj_nachfolge
9:55
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 KarinGraddy
9:55
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 LuckyCharm333
9:55
Social media is like the press, it gave more people a space to have their own voice heard. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 safwatmarzouk
9:55
@saj_nachfolge @rev_david @eric_clapp I can't even fathom all of the amazing snark that would be present in that room. #ChSocM
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 ohxjulie
9:55
RT @MeredithGould: #chsocm It's all here! bit.ly/OYeJb8 What the strategy is & why I advocate it.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 creativecomm_co
9:55
As always, I learn so very much from you all when leading this convo. Y'all are awesome, & I'm grateful for your ministries. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 rev_david
9:55
@KarinGraddy #chsocm there is truth to that. Not just form a party standpoint.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 nealffischer
9:55
@KarinGraddy This is true, but Gospel is clear on the great comission. It's time for mainline's to bring their A game. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:55 WillPlatnick
9:56
@rev_david thanks for hosting this. I look forward to participating in more of these in the future #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 JaredJLee89
9:56
@rev_david Always great! I'm fanning myself to cool down. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 MeredithGould
9:56
@rev_david Is it over!?!? Fastest hour of the week for me! #chsocm :-)
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 kdunigan
9:56
Final tweets of wisdom, closing thoughts, smart remarks? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 rev_david
9:56
@eric_clapp @rev_david @ohxjulie Smartassery is one of my spiritual gifts. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 saj_nachfolge
9:56
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 KarinGraddy
9:56
@rev_david. Thank you. I can't believe our hour is up! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 kellydouglas
9:56
How often do these happen? #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 KarinGraddy
9:56
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:56 WillPlatnick
9:57
@MeredithGould And use #brandambassador across all communication styles. Inviting someone to your church=being a brand ambassador. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 jensandmann
9:57
Final comment: Use these tools to inform, educate, inspire & build community. SPAM makes Jesus weep. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 MeredithGould
9:57
@KarinGraddy Weekly, 9 PM Eastern, 6 PM Pacific. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 LuckyCharm333
9:57
@MeredithGould true, but it's also extremely important for official accounts to exist and have an engaging voice. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 justjonlee
9:57
Final Thought... There are reasons old saying often ring true. You only get out of it, what you put into it. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 nealffischer
9:57
I think I love you!! :) RT @saj_nachfolge Smartassery is one of my spiritual gifts. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 KarinGraddy
9:57
@rev_david Thank you for hosting! I'm always shocked at how quickly this hour goes. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:57 UrbanNomadUSA
9:58
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 KarinGraddy
9:58
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 st_judes_church
9:58
@justjonlee "Extremely" important IF they have an "engaging voice." If not, shut 'em DOWN. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 MeredithGould
9:58
Nice job tonight @rev_david. Thanks for the strong effort. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 nealffischer
9:58
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 safwatmarzouk
9:58
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 Fr_CW
9:58
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:58 creativecomm_co
9:59
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 PastorJoelle
9:59
In the words of @garyvee - jab, jab, jab, right hook (give, give, give, ask) #jjjrh #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 skenow
9:59
Thanks for your leadership, @rev_david! Good to be back. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 JealaineMarple
9:59
@rev_david, excellent topics, really helpful chat tonight. Thanks for your superb moderating! #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 singingcarolyn
9:59
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 KarinGraddy
9:59
As we come up on the hour, we conclude with this prayer from Compline: #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 9:59 rev_david
10:00
Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace
Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:00 rev_david
10:00
Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:00 rev_david
10:00
RT @rev_david Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:00 LuckyCharm333
10:00
The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on churchsocmed.blogspot.com within a few hours. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:00 rev_david
10:00
Remember to tune in again next week: same bat-time, same bat-hashtag. #chsocm
Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:00 rev_david
10:01
Hashag your great communications resources with #chsocm all week long!
Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:01 rev_david
10:02
The #chsocm tweetchat is formally over for this evening, but the coffee hour continues for as long as you wish to continue chatting.
Tuesday October 8, 2013 10:02 rev_david
 
 

The topics:
T1: What factors keep non-evangelical churches from using social media as effectively?
T1a: Pushing deeper: Is the reluctance for #chsocm among non-evangelicals rooted in audience (congregation) or leadership?
T2: What can other traditions learn from evangelical churches about social media?  #chsocm
T3: How can we encourage the churches we are in to make greater use of these tools? #chsocm
T4: How can non-evangelicals go about learning from evangelical about communications ministry? #chsocm
T5: If you could change 1 thing about how your church/org/denomination communicates, what would it be? #chsocm

This week's chat moderated by David Hansen (@Rev_David)

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