This week's chat: a rollicking robust conversation
about metrics and church social media.
8:40 | I see folks beginning to gather in front of their screens. As we prepare ourselves - what was the best part of your day? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:40 rev_david |
8:40 | @rev_david my farewell lunch from church folks. it was beautiful and made my heart happy. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:40 SophiaSPU |
8:40 | @rev_david Anything bigger than the trinity and I'm lost. ;) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:40 RchrdBott |
8:41 | An email conversation that gave me a moment of wonder. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:41 RchrdBott |
8:43 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:43 MeredithGould |
8:45 | @SophiaSPU Aw, that's sweet. Cake? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:45 MeredithGould |
8:45 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:45 rev_david |
8:45 | @ThomasWHealey A good day! Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:45 rev_david |
8:45 | @SophiaSPU A full heart. What a great sending gift! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:45 rev_david |
8:46 | I checked some tedious things off my to-do list today. Physically felt the relief. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:46 rev_david |
8:46 | Ok, don't want to read tweets about church social media chat? Then mute me for an hour OR add the hashtag & join in! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:46 MeredithGould |
8:46 | @rev_david a difficult question to answer today. Need more time for examen. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:46 skenow |
8:47 | RT @MeredithGould: Ok, don't want to read tweets ab church social media chat? Then mute me for an hour OR add the hashtag & join in! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:47 rev_david |
8:47 | @rev_david indeed. such a supportive congregation. beautiful people. nashville, here i come. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:47 SophiaSPU |
8:48 | @SophiaSPU I think you're going to love Nashville. Hey, any chance you can get to Chattanooga on the 23rd for the evening? @megateer Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:48 rev_david |
8:48 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:48 MeredithGould |
8:48 | @RchrdBott Or a funny text message conversation with the wrong person #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:48 mapleridgealex |
8:49 | .@SophiaSPU - we are looking forward to welcoming you to Nashville! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:49 MegLassiat |
8:49 | @SophiaSPU @revkris - @megateer & I are in town for the week, and trying to pull together a tweetup that evening. Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:49 rev_david |
8:50 | @MeredithGould too many lightning fast things today - perhaps the chat will provide some decompression. The best part is yet to come #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:50 skenow |
8:50 | #chsocm Need to hydrate for our chat! Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:50 MeredithGould |
8:50 | The #chsocm chat: A bowl of bodaciousness covered in awesome chat. You know you want to join in! Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:50 rev_david |
8:51 | RT @rev_david: The #chsocm chat: A bowl of bodaciousness covered in awesome chat. You know you want to join in! Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:51 chsocm |
8:51 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:51 rev_david |
8:51 | Best part of my day: snuggles w/my baby boy =) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:51 anna_r |
8:52 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:52 rev_david |
8:52 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:52 rev_david |
8:53 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:53 rev_david |
8:53 | Well, drat... pastoral call - and I'm not a good multitasker. Have a good chat, all! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:53 RchrdBott |
8:53 | Major electrical storm ramping up. Fabulously biblical backdrop for the #chsocm chat. Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:53 MeredithGould |
8:54 | @RchrdBott Important priority!! Prayers for your ministry, friend. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:54 rev_david |
8:54 | @MeredithGould it only gets better. Right? No head hanging, #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:54 skenow |
8:54 | @MeredithGould - could make the chat interesting! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:54 MegLassiat |
8:55 | @MegLassiat That's what I'm thinking. Maybe tablets will be issued? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:55 MeredithGould |
8:55 | 5 minute warning! The best hour on twitter is about to begin. Join us to discuss social media & ministry on the hashtag #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:55 rev_david |
8:55 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:55 MeredithGould |
8:56 | @MeredithGould - how quick is that Pony Express these days? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:56 MegLassiat |
8:56 | @MeredithGould Resend it before we really get started! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:56 rev_david |
8:57 | What do you think? Superb wedding gift for @rev_david n' @megateer? #chsocm #jesusjunk twitpic.com/ajid23 Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:57 MeredithGould |
8:57 | Ok, last chance to take a potty break, grab a refreshing adult beverage or a snack! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:57 rev_david |
8:57 | @rev_david Done! Behold! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:57 MeredithGould |
8:58 | RT @MeredithGould: What do you think? Superb wedding gift for @rev_david n' @megateer? #chsocm #jesusjunk twitpic.com/ajid23 Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:58 rev_david |
8:58 | @MeredithGould Awesome. I think @megateer would love for us to put that in the middle of the living room. #chsocm #epicenterofmatrimony Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:58 rev_david |
8:59 | Anyone else notice that ampersands haven't been working on Twitter? What's up with that? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:59 rev_david |
8:59 | @rev_david That's what I thought! I think @megateer would come around for this object d'art. #chsocm #epicenterofmatrimony Tuesday August 14, 2012 8:59 MeredithGould |
9:00 | Ladies & Gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages - It is time for our weekly tweetchat! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:00 rev_david |
9:00 | *waves hello* Good to see you, my virtual friends! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:00 rev_david |
9:01 | Dear non-participating participants, we would love to hear from you tonight! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:01 rev_david |
9:01 | RT @rev_david: Dear non-participating participants, we would love to hear from you tonight! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:01 MeredithGould |
9:01 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:01 skenow |
9:01 | I've been away for a while - good to be back! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:01 MegLassiat |
9:01 | Good evening everyone! Honing my multi-tasking skills tonight, but happy to be able to listen in & share some if time allows. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:01 AmyL_Bishop |
9:02 | Please jump right in -- we are a very friendly group. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:02 rev_david |
9:02 | Same here! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:02 TrinityLimeRock |
9:02 | Introductions in just a moment, but first, some Jesusy-prayer-type stuff #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:02 rev_david |
9:02 | Join me for #GetRealChat (authenticity & soc med) or #ChSocM (church & soc med) or both, starting now. Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:02 paulsteinbrueck |
9:02 | RT @MegLassiat: Ive been away for a while - good to be back! //Me too! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:02 LuckyCharm333 |
9:02 | The Lord be with y'all. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:02 rev_david |
9:02 | Back after a hiatus. Will be in and out tonight but good to be back! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:02 TrinityLimeRock |
9:03 | RT @rev_david: Dear non-participating participants, we would love to hear from you tonight! #chsocm // a.k.a "lurkers" <shudder> Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:03 skenow |
9:03 | @rev_david And with all y'all too. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:03 kmays |
9:03 | God of compassion, mercy, and grace - you are the source of all wisdom .... #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:03 rev_david |
9:03 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:03 MeredithGould |
9:03 | Be present in our words, in our thoughts, and in our relationships tonight ... #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:03 rev_david |
9:04 | @MeredithGould Thanks - you too :-)! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:04 MegLassiat |
9:04 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:04 MeredithGould |
9:04 | Guide us toward your light and your wisdom in all that we say and do. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:04 rev_david |
9:04 | We ask especially for your peace for the community of #CollegeStation, and all affected by the shooting there yesterday. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:04 rev_david |
9:05 | In the name of the one who called us and redeemed us. Amen. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:05 rev_david |
9:05 | Amen and aymen. One eye here. Other on the Baltimore tornado watch outside. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:05 RevWeb |
9:05 | A Williams, Educator, former IT professional, and Human Communication Theory addict in SC #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:05 KeepSetting |
9:05 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:05 MeredithGould |
9:05 | Next up: self-introductions. In addition to your church affiliation, please let everyone how you currently use social media. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:05 rev_david |
9:06 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:06 AmyL_Bishop |
9:06 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:06 skenow |
9:06 | #legalvoiceover We will assume tweets during this chat yours & do not represent your church or organization #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:06 rev_david |
9:06 | Hiya. I'm Sophia. Director of Com & Outreach at @FirstUMCSeattle soon to be Minister of Online Engagement with UMC in Nashville #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:06 SophiaSPU |
9:06 | UMC - use sm daily for networking, sharing information; I work at the denominational level. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:06 MegLassiat |
9:06 | How do I use social media? Not much while I took some vacation time. But I'm back now. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:06 Denise205 |
9:07 | #legalvoiceover Please wait till after the chat to pitch you website/blog/products! #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:07 rev_david |
9:07 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:07 skenow |
9:07 | @kmays Tnx. I've got the kitty sitting next to an interior wall. @MeredithGould is next to the window shielding us both. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:07 RevWeb |
9:07 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:07 MeredithGould |
9:07 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:07 MeredithGould |
9:07 | @Denise205 Good to see you around! How was vacation? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:07 skenow |
9:08 | @rev_david Jonathan, CRC/UMC (I get around denominationally). Tweeting for multiple orgs. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:08 jonassink |
9:08 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:08 mattlipan |
9:08 | @Denise205 Oh THERE you are! Missed you, hope you had a great vacay. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:08 MeredithGould |
9:08 | @MeredithGould gas, obviously #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:08 skenow |
9:08 | Geoff Brown. Lay Episcopalian, do communications etc. for Trinity Lime Rock. General nuisance. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:08 TrinityLimeRock |
9:08 | I'm a digital media strategist for Campus Crusade for Christ & love all things surrounding strategic IMC. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:08 AmyL_Bishop |
9:08 | <-- Your (sometimes) humble moderator, David. Lutheran pastor in Texas. Teaching other pastors to use social media. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:08 rev_david |
9:08 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:08 Denise205 |
9:09 | Dan Webster. #Episcopal priest. Bishop's staff in Baltimore. SM for churchwide/diocesan wide conx. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:09 RevWeb |
9:09 | As you continue to introduce yourselves: Tonight we will be chatting about (drumroll ...) Metrics! #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:09 rev_david |
9:09 | @mattlipan Great to see an Indy SM guy on here! Welcome. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:09 AmyL_Bishop |
9:10 | <-- @UpstateNYSynod , ELCA - Director of Communications. #chsocm Good evening everyone. Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:10 nealffischer |
9:10 | @AmyL_Bishop thanks, good to be able to drop in again. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:10 mattlipan |
9:10 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:10 MegLassiat |
9:10 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:10 tedcarnahan |
9:10 | @chsocm Founder & leader of @OurChurchDotCom, blogger, sometimes comm advisor for my CMA church in Clearwater, FL #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:10 paulsteinbrueck |
9:10 | @MeredithGould Hi! It was fun taking some time off the computer too. But I waded through many e-mails today because of it. :) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:10 Denise205 |
9:10 | Metrics!!! We don't care about no stinking metrics!!! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:10 RevWeb |
9:11 | I write my own blog, use social media to connect, & I'm also the Social Media and Webinar manager for @vibrantfaith & @VFatHome #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:11 anna_r |
9:11 | YES! ♥ Measurement. RT @rev_david: As you continue to introduce yourselves: Tonight we will be chatting about... Metrics! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:11 AmyL_Bishop |
9:11 | <-- Technology evangelist (is that preferred over 'Ninja' or 'Guru'?). Lutheran. Also guiding through @ChristianWebRes #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:11 skenow |
9:11 | Great to see so many familiar faces tonight! Too many to say hi to each, so one big hello! #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:11 rev_david |
9:11 | Blue & proud! RT @MegLassiat Go Colts #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:11 AmyL_Bishop |
9:11 | #chsocm Don't even know what the topic Qs are, I already have comments and answers. Is anyone surprised by this? Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:11 MeredithGould |
9:12 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:12 rev_david |
9:12 | Use metrics mainly to make a case for greater SM involvement. Ignore them when they don't say what I want them to. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:12 TrinityLimeRock |
9:12 | @Denise205 naw - out of office set to 'Delete all incoming mail' #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:12 skenow |
9:12 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:12 mattlipan |
9:12 | Holla, holla. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:12 JustinWise |
9:12 | @megateer @MeredithGould I'm sure I have no idea what you are talking about. *whistles non-chalantly* Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:12 rev_david |
9:12 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:12 paulsteinbrueck |
9:13 | @JustinWise Oooo! New avatar. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:13 MeredithGould |
9:13 | Episcopalian, volunteer web admin, using SM less and less for church due to lack of interest/active hostility toward it. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:13 LuckyCharm333 |
9:13 | RT @rev_david: As you continue to introduce yourselves: Tonight we will be chatting about (drumroll ...) Metrics! // not English? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:13 skenow |
9:13 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:13 MegLassiat |
9:13 | @JustinWise what up? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:13 AmyL_Bishop |
9:13 | @LuckyCharm333 Hostility? Still? Jeepers. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:13 MeredithGould |
9:13 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:13 theologybird |
9:14 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:14 Denise205 |
9:14 | @LuckyCharm333 Don't give up. It takes a LONG time.... #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:14 TrinityLimeRock |
9:14 | RT @rev_david: Tonight we will be chatting about (drumroll ...) Metrics! // 1 of my favorite movies. ;) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:14 paulsteinbrueck |
9:14 | @MeredithGould It's an aging congregation. *sigh* #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:14 LuckyCharm333 |
9:14 | RT @MeredithGould: #chsocm Don't even know what the topic Qs are, I already have comments and answers. Is anyone surprised by this? Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:14 theologybird |
9:14 | Here comes topic 1 of the night ... #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:14 rev_david |
9:14 | @MeredithGould I had to laugh at churchsocmed.blogspot.com/2012/08/friday… - because my first thought was... Who uses Internet Explorer #chsocm :) Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:14 nealffischer |
9:14 | Some in my church don't even think we should have a website. SMH #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:14 LuckyCharm333 |
9:14 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:14 MeredithGould |
9:15 | @Denise205 works like a charm! Autorespond to let them know, as a courtesy, though #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:15 skenow |
9:15 | Well that's unfortunate. RT @LuckyCharm333: Some in my church don't even think we should have a website. SMH #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:15 SophiaSPU |
9:15 | @MegLassiat @mattlipan No bets, but just hoping for a fun year with [several] more wins than last year. ;) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:15 AmyL_Bishop |
9:15 | <---Next week's moderator, social mgr for Catholic diocese #Chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:15 AnjWiley |
9:15 | T1 - As a part of your congregational or personal social media use, do you use any metrics? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:15 rev_david |
9:15 | RT @rev_david: T1 - As a part of your congregational or personal social media use, do you use any metrics? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:15 MeredithGould |
9:15 | @LuckyCharm333 Was happy to see the TEC general convention resolved yes for SM and up to date websites. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:15 TrinityLimeRock |
9:16 | RT @rev_david T1 - As a part of your congregational or personal social media use, do you use any metrics? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:16 AmyL_Bishop |
9:16 | @nealffischer "Who uses IE?" I ask that at least once a week at work! #Chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:16 AnjWiley |
9:16 | T1 No, not really because the mechanisms for collecting data are dodgy at best & I'm a snob about that stuff. #chsocm #sociologist Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:16 MeredithGould |
9:16 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:16 Denise205 |
9:16 | T1 - am painfully ignorant re: metrics. Just use built in blogger metrics for personal blog. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:16 kmays |
9:16 | <-- uses IE. Got to use all the biggies when developing websites. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:16 LuckyCharm333 |
9:16 | @rev_david T1: organizationally, in the periphery. Personally, yes, but mostly for nerdy vanity reasons. =) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:16 jonassink |
9:16 | @rev_david T1: Yep, I <3 Google Analytics and Google Docs spreadsheets. :) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:16 paulsteinbrueck |
9:16 | RT @RevWeb: @LuckyCharm333 Shall pray for them as they reach fewer and fewer with the gospel. //Thank you! May I pass this on? ;-) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:16 LuckyCharm333 |
9:16 | T1 - seriously, report year over year metrics for SM apps, and for website, in parish annual report; otherwise just when useful 4 me #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:16 TrinityLimeRock |
9:17 | RT @jonassink: @rev_david T1: Personally, yes, but mostly for nerdy vanity reasons. =) #chsocm // Love this! Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:17 rev_david |
9:17 | T1 What metrics do you employ for social media efforts? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:17 skenow |
9:17 | @paulsteinbrueck How are you using Google docs for metrics? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:17 MeredithGould |
9:17 | @MeredithGould and they are DEFINITELY dogy... #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:17 TrinityLimeRock |
9:17 | Q1: mostly just to track fb ads exposure. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:17 mattlipan |
9:17 | T1: Metrics are vital — but they work hand-in-hand with goals. You should be tracking metrics to measure success & progress. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:17 AmyL_Bishop |
9:17 | Facebook yes. They make it somewhat easy giving their "insights" But could use some help with Twitter and Google+ #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:17 nealffischer |
9:17 | @TrinityLimeRock Thank you thank you for validating my social scientist reality. I go more than slightly nuts during these convos. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:17 MeredithGould |
9:18 | Have tried using metrics to show potential, but with little result. I must not be a very good saleswoman. ;-) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:18 LuckyCharm333 |
9:18 | T1 - I watch the FB insights for the congregation page. So easy to make use of. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:18 rev_david |
9:18 | T1-Only to impress the bishop. (But I do look at facebook likes/visits/talking about report, dio twitter RTs.) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:18 RevWeb |
9:18 | @MeredithGould We'll come back to a "you" question :) #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:18 rev_david |
9:18 | T1 You cannot track metrics unless & until you know what you want to measure, why & how a "good" measurement is defined. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:18 MeredithGould |
9:19 | T1: If you don't set goals/objectives, what do the metrics matter? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:19 AmyL_Bishop |
9:19 | @AmyL_Bishop I 2nd that! Measure against goals! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:19 skenow |
9:19 | T1 Frequency distributions are just about the only reliable "metric" in the domain of #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:19 MeredithGould |
9:19 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:19 MeredithGould |
9:19 | Ok. We're naturally moving into T2 already. Let me lob this into it. (there will be two parts) #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:19 rev_david |
9:19 | T1 tend to use metrics that are pretty obvious on the surface. Likes for example. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:19 TrinityLimeRock |
9:20 | @AmyL_Bishop Matter for tracking trends.... #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:20 TrinityLimeRock |
9:20 | @TrinityLimeRock T1 You're counting them and adding them up, right? That's a frequency distribution. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:20 MeredithGould |
9:20 | T2a) Non-metrics folks: Explain why metrics make the baby Jesus cry. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:20 rev_david |
9:20 | @MeredithGould We keep the metrics we're most concerned with in a spreadsheet & compare month to month. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:20 paulsteinbrueck |
9:21 | @MeredithGould Really it's year over year numbers.... #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:21 TrinityLimeRock |
9:21 | Ha! RT @rev_david: T2a) Non-metrics folks: Explain why metrics make the baby Jesus cry. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:21 kmays |
9:21 | @rev_david because they are mostly made up. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:21 jonassink |
9:21 | T1: Also don't be distracted by ALL of the metrics that are available. Choose the one's that represent the growth you're seeking. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:21 AmyL_Bishop |
9:21 | @paulsteinbrueck And which metrics are you most concerned with? How do you define & operationalize them? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:21 MeredithGould |
9:21 | @MeredithGould measure actions - calories consumed over what the scale shows #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:21 skenow |
9:22 | T1 website hits go down; facebook activity goes up. Year after year. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:22 TrinityLimeRock |
9:22 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:22 MeredithGould |
9:22 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:22 kmays |
9:22 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:22 MeredithGould |
9:22 | @TrinityLimeRock True. But would you say tracking trends matters if you aren't aligning that for a larger objective? :) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:22 AmyL_Bishop |
9:23 | @jonassink Hmm ... Ok. But, things like number of RTs, or likes, or shares. Those aren't made up. Aren't they metrics? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:23 rev_david |
9:23 | For me, social media is an outpost that points back to the home base (website.) (Thanks @JustinWise ) There Google Analytics helps - #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:23 nealffischer |
9:23 | T2a Metrics make Baby Jesus cry because grown-up Jesus didn't do a body count to assert his value. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:23 MeredithGould |
9:24 | @AmyL_Bishop Larger, more interactive audience means success to me. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:24 TrinityLimeRock |
9:24 | @MeredithGould There definitely have to be qualitative + quantitative ways to measure engagement and all the other things we measure #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:24 SophiaSPU |
9:24 | @MeredithGould but He also didn't neglect numbers. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:24 mattlipan |
9:24 | T2a) metrics=math, and math is bad. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:24 reckshow |
9:24 | @TrinityLimeRock How do you define (i.e., operationalize) interaction? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:24 MeredithGould |
9:24 | @rev_david yes-ish. Had convo w/ friend other day about how most likes/RT's/etc. we see are just our other SM connected friends. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:24 jonassink |
9:24 | My issue w metrics:MT @MeredithGould: Metrics make Baby Jesus cry because grown-up Jesus didn't do a body count to assert his value. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:24 kmays |
9:24 | @MeredithGould Grown up Jesus said, "I didn't lose any that were given to me." Makes kind of a big point of it. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:24 rev_david |
9:25 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:25 LuckyCharm333 |
9:25 | @mattlipan Sure, but they were simple: where two or more are gathered...everyone else went nuts about feeding 5k MEN. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:25 MeredithGould |
9:25 | @MeredithGould VERY subjectively... #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:25 TrinityLimeRock |
9:25 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:25 RevWeb |
9:25 | @MeredithGould Too many to list in a tweet, but traffic, leads, conversions, conversion rates from each source. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:25 paulsteinbrueck |
9:25 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:25 Denise205 |
9:26 | @jonassink Is that a problem? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:26 Denise205 |
9:26 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:26 MeredithGould |
9:26 | @TrinityLimeRock Exactly! So you'd be tracking the audience growth & engagement but have to set goals to define successful growth. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:26 AmyL_Bishop |
9:26 | Deeply appreciative of the respectful disagreement here! #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:26 rev_david |
9:26 | T1 No goals, no definitions of outcomes = no nothing of value. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:26 MeredithGould |
9:27 | @MeredithGould exactly. speaking not as a "metrics expert" it seems we make too much of them at times. simple numbers matter. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:27 mattlipan |
9:27 | @rev_david Wow, thanks for thinking I'm being respectful! #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:27 MeredithGould |
9:27 | @Denise205 I'm a theologian, not a mathemetician. or statistician. or sociologist. #chsocm #seewhatididthere Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:27 reckshow |
9:27 | Here is T2b: Those of you who pay attention to metrics, why do metrics matter? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:27 rev_david |
9:27 | @mattlipan My still fave book from grad school: How to Lie with Statistics. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:27 MeredithGould |
9:27 | RT @rev_david: Here is T2b: Those of you who pay attention to metrics, why do metrics matter? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:27 MeredithGould |
9:27 | RT @MeredithGould: T1 No goals, no definitions of outcomes = no nothing of value. //Amen! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:27 LuckyCharm333 |
9:27 | @MeredithGould agree. need to decide what's important to measure before choosing what tools to use. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:27 SophiaSPU |
9:27 | @rev_david analytics/metrics = $$$ #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:27 jonassink |
9:28 | T2b Metrics -- good, reliable, verifiable data -- matters because budgetary decisions are often based on them. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:28 MeredithGould |
9:28 | MT @jonassink: T2b analytics/metrics = $$$ #chsocm // Yep! Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:28 kmays |
9:28 | T2: Without metrics/goals you keep spinning strategy in circles with zero progress. When do you know to move on to the next phase? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:28 AmyL_Bishop |
9:28 | T2b - I use metrics as self-evaluation. They help me to see what does and what does not work, and how to best use my time #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:28 rev_david |
9:29 | Perhaps we quibble over meaning instead of importance of metrics in social media #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:29 skenow |
9:29 | @rev_david T2b: Metrics matter b/c we're called to steward resources wisely. How do we know if we are unless we measure results? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:29 paulsteinbrueck |
9:29 | @LuckyCharm333 Jesus obviously wanted his message to be heard by as many as possible. so he found himself engaging crowds often. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:29 mattlipan |
9:29 | T2b And, it's important that measurements be defined & crafted so that they're meaningful. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:29 MeredithGould |
9:29 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:29 Denise205 |
9:29 | RT @MeredithGould: @mattlipan My still fave book from grad school: How to Lie with Statistics. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:29 mattlipan |
9:29 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:29 MeredithGould |
9:29 | *stepping out of moderator's chair* #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:29 rev_david |
9:30 | MT @paulsteinbrueck: T2b: Metrics matter b/c we're called to steward resources wisely. How do we know unless we measure results? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:30 MeredithGould |
9:30 | T2b - Need to prove to skeptics (bishops, pastors, etc.) value of SM, how gospel reach is improved, how community grows. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:30 RevWeb |
9:30 | T2 For the record, I'm not opposed to measurement. I just want them to be crafted with rigor. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:30 MeredithGould |
9:31 | Used for self-evaluation & learning, metrics are helpful. When used to whip it out & compare, metrics are unhelpful. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:31 rev_david |
9:31 | @mattlipan GOOD point! Thank you. So simple, I couldn't see it myself... #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:31 LuckyCharm333 |
9:31 | @jonassink I didn't take it that way. Thought of it as sm connectors doing more connecting. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:31 Denise205 |
9:31 | @MeredithGould I appreciate the phrase "crafted with rigor." #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:31 kmays |
9:31 | **all done, back to moderating* #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:31 rev_david |
9:31 | T2b - Simply put. Many in my care say show me the numbers. I have to have something measurable to justify the importance. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:31 nealffischer |
9:31 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:31 rev_david |
9:31 | MT T2b: Metrics matter b/c were called to steward resources wisely. How do we know unless we measure results? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:31 LuckyCharm333 |
9:31 | @Denise205 but isn't that just recursion? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:31 jonassink |
9:32 | @LuckyCharm333 my pleasure. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:32 mattlipan |
9:32 | @MeredithGould Agreed, & we need to measure the right things for the right reason - and not reading success into surface answers #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:32 MegLassiat |
9:32 | @Denise205 math people usually tell me "words are bad", lol :) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:32 reckshow |
9:32 | About to drop T3 into the mix. Everyone ready? Strapped in? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:32 rev_david |
9:32 | @rev_david T2b: Of course, I don't know of any place in the gospels where Jesus went over spreadsheets w disciples... #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:32 paulsteinbrueck |
9:32 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:32 AmyL_Bishop |
9:33 | @MeredithGould I'd definitely agree there #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:33 skenow |
9:33 | @MegLassiat Reminds me of arguments about PR campaigns because we couldn't prove a press release changed behavior. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:33 MeredithGould |
9:33 | @MeredithGould unless we determine their worth? it almost seems like i determine worth of any metric? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:33 mattlipan |
9:33 | RT @rev_david: About to drop T3 into the mix. Everyone ready? Strapped in? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:33 LuckyCharm333 |
9:33 | @rev_david ...to play "devil's advocate" Jesus was just concerned about obeying the Father & left results up to Him. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:33 paulsteinbrueck |
9:33 | @mattlipan If the worth/value of a metric is idiosyncratic, it's meaningless and can be generalized to be of value. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:33 MeredithGould |
9:34 | T3 - What is a successful social media ministry? How can you tell? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:34 rev_david |
9:34 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:34 AmyL_Bishop |
9:34 | RT @rev_david: T3 - What is a successful social media ministry? How can you tell? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:34 MeredithGould |
9:34 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:34 Denise205 |
9:35 | @Denise205 You're an unusual person who gets & loves words AND numbers. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:35 MeredithGould |
9:35 | @paulsteinbrueck Can you imagine how that scene would have played out? :) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:35 Denise205 |
9:35 | T3 I have my answer, and the right answer. Which do you want? (Will probably rile Meredith, LOL) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:35 LuckyCharm333 |
9:35 | T3 Successful social media ministry is one that serve to generate conversation & build community. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:35 MeredithGould |
9:35 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:35 jonassink |
9:35 | RT @MeredithGould: T3 Successful social media ministry is one that serve to generate conversation & build community. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:35 reckshow |
9:35 | RT @rev_david: T3 - What is a successful social media ministry? How can you tell? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:35 paulsteinbrueck |
9:35 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:35 MeredithGould |
9:36 | @MeredithGould I'm not sure about 'meaning' trumping all. Just started "Reading the Bible with Giants" and that's a major point #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:36 skenow |
9:36 | @AmyL_Bishop I think you first have to talk their language before they talk yours. Need to help them around the learning curve. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:36 RevWeb |
9:36 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:36 MeredithGould |
9:37 | t3: one that engages individuals in meaningful conversation & moves people along a journey of discipleship. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:37 mattlipan |
9:37 | @MeredithGould 1st I agree. But how do you know if you're doing that? Look at #'s, traffic, etc. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:37 LuckyCharm333 |
9:37 | I view myself / my congregation as having 2 parallel social media missions: #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:37 rev_david |
9:37 | T3 Successful soc med ministry? Boy is that loaded. Gotta say, I am really impressed with the work of @HopeWDM and @lifechurchtv #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:37 nealffischer |
9:37 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:37 AmyL_Bishop |
9:37 | T3 Social media ministry is successful when the church potluck supper has a variety of foods & not just lasagna & jello. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:37 MeredithGould |
9:37 | @MeredithGould:did I misinterpret? "@skenow Without defining meaning, its all quibbling, no?" #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:37 skenow |
9:37 | Growing discipleship in our community, and Reaching people outside of faith. Our goals related to those. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:37 rev_david |
9:38 | t3: i measure "success" by 1) not talking to myself & 2) not just talking about church potluck menu (@MeredithGould ;) ) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:38 mattlipan |
9:38 | T3-No different than IRL ministry: proclaims the Word, invites everyone, offers new life/transformation, celebrates life! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:38 RevWeb |
9:38 | MT @MeredithGould: T3 ...when the church potluck supper has a variety of foods & not just lasagna & jello. //Love it! May steal... #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:38 LuckyCharm333 |
9:38 | @LuckyCharm333 You wait until the Rapture and see who is left behind! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:38 MeredithGould |
9:39 | @jonassink I like "stories." Say more. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:39 rev_david |
9:40 | @MeredithGould how much of social media ministry is meant to drive people to IRL community? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:40 SophiaSPU |
9:40 | @AmyL_Bishop Yo yo! Just working late on a report, trying to catch all the #chsocm action! Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:40 JustinWise |
9:40 | @rev_david it's a bit cliche, but using digital/social media to tell stories of your community. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:40 jonassink |
9:40 | #chsocm @rev_david @jonassink Glad you mention stories b/c that opens conversation to the value of qualitative data, not just numbers. Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:40 MeredithGould |
9:40 | RT @mattlipan t3: i measure "success" by 1) not talking to myself & 2) not just talking about church potluck menu #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:40 LuckyCharm333 |
9:41 | @SophiaSPU Or keep people connected in between IRL encounters? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:41 kmays |
9:41 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:41 jonassink |
9:41 | RT @MeredithGould: #chsocm @rev_david @jonassink Glad you mention stories b/c that opens conversation to the value of qualitative data, ... Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:41 mattlipan |
9:41 | @SophiaSPU I think it should be so fluid that distinctions between virtual & IRL community disappear. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:41 MeredithGould |
9:41 | RT @MeredithGould: @SophiaSPU I think it should be so fluid that distinctions between virtual & IRL community disappear. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:41 reckshow |
9:41 | @jonassink Love that answer. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:41 JustinWise |
9:41 | @rev_david T3: A successful social media ministry gets the church closer to its overall goals. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:41 paulsteinbrueck |
9:42 | @SophiaSPU I think naysayers think #chsocm MUST drive people to church to be considered successful, but church is not a bldg. Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:42 MeredithGould |
9:42 | @paulsteinbrueck That's how it's done, son. LEGIT street cred. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:42 JustinWise |
9:42 | @MeredithGould @jonassink Not just telling the church's stories - but success as the stories of lives touched/changed. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:42 rev_david |
9:42 | @SophiaSPU Yes, both methodologies. Different tools for different tasks. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:42 MeredithGould |
9:42 | @rev_david Did you say what those 2 parallel missions of your church's social media are? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:42 paulsteinbrueck |
9:43 | @MeredithGould noooooooooooooo. even attendance in worship or small groups is only ONE piece to measure. but what does it measure? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:43 SophiaSPU |
9:43 | @paulsteinbrueck Yes, basically inside & out. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:43 rev_david |
9:43 | @SophiaSPU Hey, I'm on your side! I think it's a bogus goal. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:43 MeredithGould |
9:43 | @MeredithGould just jumping into #chsocm what's the word this evening? Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:43 m_vince |
9:43 | @JustinWise at the risk of sounding like a "guru": followers can be bought, stories take effort. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:43 jonassink |
9:43 | @MeredithGould But ppl needed in bldg to fill collection plate & keep lights on, no? Devil's advocate here... #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:43 LuckyCharm333 |
9:43 | @MeredithGould measuring seats in worship + small groups is measuring...butts in seats. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:43 SophiaSPU |
9:44 | @MeredithGould i know you are :) that was me agreeing with you! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:44 SophiaSPU |
9:44 | MT @jonassink: followers can be bought, stories take effort. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:44 rev_david |
9:44 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:44 MegLassiat |
9:44 | Plain & simple. RT @paulsteinbrueck @rev_david T3 A successful social media ministry gets the church closer to its overall goals. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:44 AmyL_Bishop |
9:44 | @LuckyCharm333 Yes, but it raises the issue about whether that's where we ought to be worshiping/gathering. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:44 MeredithGould |
9:44 | @AmyL_Bishop @paulsteinbrueck @rev_david Plain & simple until you start the dog fight over what those goals are! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:44 MeredithGould |
9:44 | @AmyL_Bishop @paulsteinbrueck oh but that would require churches to have overall goals they can articulate. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:44 SophiaSPU |
9:45 | @LuckyCharm333 Engaged & committed ppl fill collection plate. Not just ppl who are present. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:45 kmays |
9:45 | @kmays @LuckyCharm333 I contribute to a church I haven't stepped foot in for nearly 10 months! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:45 MeredithGould |
9:45 | @MeredithGould You mean if that's the goal, should change churches? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:45 LuckyCharm333 |
9:46 | RT @rev_david: T1 - As a part of your congregational or personal social media use, do you use any metrics? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:46 ChristianWebRes |
9:46 | @SophiaSPU Riiiiight. :) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:46 paulsteinbrueck |
9:46 | @LuckyCharm333 No, I'm questioning what our goal is as Christians: herding people into a bldg or helping people live the Gospel. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:46 MeredithGould |
9:46 | 'Nother problem. Our church refuses to put a donate button on the website. Hard for folks to support us remotely! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:46 LuckyCharm333 |
9:46 | Hi, just jumping in late...T3: Successful sm=people feeling connected/"in the know"/community strengthened (how to measure?) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:46 singingcarolyn |
9:46 | @SophiaSPU Whew, I've either had too much or not enough chocolate! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:46 MeredithGould |
9:47 | @MeredithGould that ramped up quickly. only ~10 more min. hang in there! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:47 SophiaSPU |
9:47 | @SophiaSPU @paulsteinbrueck @MeredithGould Absolutely! With SM advancements other organizational problems often arise. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:47 AmyL_Bishop |
9:47 | @SophiaSPU is attending an event (Sunday or otherwise) the best measure in todays culture #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:47 m_vince |
9:47 | @MeredithGould This brings another Q for me: Many spiritual resources online, why go to IRL church at all? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:47 LuckyCharm333 |
9:47 | #chsocm TWhatever: If one life is transformed (not just changed) we're successful, but that's not a measure the institution can handle. Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:47 MeredithGould |
9:48 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:48 SophiaSPU |
9:48 | @SophiaSPU @paulsteinbrueck @MeredithGould But it's a great opportunity to push for leaders to develop some organizational goals! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:48 AmyL_Bishop |
9:48 | @LuckyCharm333 For the experience of communal prayer, formal liturgy. God knows it's not the food! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:48 MeredithGould |
9:48 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:48 rev_david |
9:48 | @LuckyCharm333 in a debt-ridden economy, good stewardship may lead some to forego online donations #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:48 skenow |
9:48 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:48 MeredithGould |
9:49 | @SophiaSPU good to hear. I'd like to see the church move away from the large scale time and place gathering #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:49 m_vince |
9:49 | RT @MeredithGould: @LuckyCharm333 For the experience of communal prayer, formal liturgy. God knows its not the food! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:49 LuckyCharm333 |
9:50 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:50 LuckyCharm333 |
9:50 | This gets at the same question I'm hearing from y'all: #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:50 rev_david |
9:50 | MT re: herding/hearing. I keep begging people to understand that social media is going to where the people already are #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:50 LuckyCharm333 |
9:50 | @nealffischer Exactly! No need to herd if you instead go out to their pasture. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:50 singingcarolyn |
9:50 | @LuckyCharm333 trading one debt for another? Who wins? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:50 skenow |
9:51 | @SophiaSPU i'd like to see the church of the future gather at time & place somewhere on the order of 20 times a year #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:51 m_vince |
9:51 | T4 - As we do "virtual" ministry, does the church need to gather in flesh to be the church? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:51 rev_david |
9:51 | RT @rev_david: T4 - As we do "virtual" ministry, does the church need to gather in flesh to be the church? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:51 MeredithGould |
9:51 | (just something a little light as we end the night) #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:51 rev_david |
9:51 | @rev_david YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!! (too much?) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:51 jonassink |
9:51 | T4 To be church? (the Body of XC) No. To be The Church (institution), probably yes. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:51 MeredithGould |
9:51 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:51 rev_david |
9:51 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:51 LuckyCharm333 |
9:52 | @rev_david a few of us are trying a virtual gathering. we're pastors/lay people who gather on google hangout weekly. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:52 SophiaSPU |
9:52 | T4 Good question. Probably what drives fear of SM in my church. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:52 LuckyCharm333 |
9:52 | @AmyL_Bishop Among many things neither taught nor learned in seminary: org development & management. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:52 MeredithGould |
9:52 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:52 kmays |
9:52 | RT @rev_david: T4 - As we do "virtual" ministry, does the church need to gather in flesh to be the church? #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:52 singingcarolyn |
9:53 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:53 MeredithGould |
9:53 | @rev_david T4: I don't think the church has to gather physically, but it makes for a richer experience. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:53 paulsteinbrueck |
9:53 | RT @MeredithGould: @AmyL_Bishop Among many things neither taught nor learned in seminary: org development & management. //Really?? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:53 LuckyCharm333 |
9:53 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:53 MeredithGould |
9:53 | T4 Don't the varied gifts of the body require us to be a re-membered work in the world, in addition to individual vocations? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:53 elbyviau |
9:53 | @MeredithGould I know. For those of us with business organization, we can't be afraid to speak up & share our knowledge. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:53 AmyL_Bishop |
9:54 | @rev_david It's expensive to gather at scale every week & inefficient. We need to steer people away from consuming church #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:54 m_vince |
9:54 | @LuckyCharm333 Lowering barriers is what SM and the web is all about. Still need to weigh with higher callings. #stewardship #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:54 skenow |
9:54 | @AmyL_Bishop I'll join you howling in the dark. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:54 MeredithGould |
9:54 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:54 SophiaSPU |
9:54 | I think the church doesn't *have* to be physically together, but we are at our best when we are in-carnate. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:54 rev_david |
9:54 | RT @MeredithGould: @LuckyCharm333 Youre being sarcastic, right? //No, not at all. They don't? Why not??? #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:54 LuckyCharm333 |
9:55 | @rev_david Incarnate, but only on good hair days. Unless you're bald, of course. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:55 MeredithGould |
9:55 | @rev_david T4: You could be married & only interact w ur spouse virtually, but would not be as fulfilling. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:55 paulsteinbrueck |
9:55 | #chsocm T4 As a Lutheran it is hard to get around the flesh piece. in the greek if you don't gnaw on my flesh... You can't have life. Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:55 nealffischer |
9:55 | *Five Minute Warning* #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:55 rev_david |
9:55 | @LuckyCharm333 Not part of the curriculum, alas. LOTS of stuff missing from seminary curriculum! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:55 MeredithGould |
9:55 | <--likes RT @rev_david: I think the church doesnt *have* to be physically together, but we are at our best when we are in-carnate. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:55 LuckyCharm333 |
9:55 | @MeredithGould For me, in-the-flesh sacraments are the most important part of "doing" church. Agree that #chsocm can support. Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:55 kmays |
9:56 | @rev_david AKA Last Call. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:56 singingcarolyn |
9:56 | RT @paulsteinbrueck: @rev_david T4: You could be married & only interact w ur spouse virtually, but would not be as fulfilling. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:56 LuckyCharm333 |
9:56 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:56 MeredithGould |
9:56 | T4 If marriage is a sacrament then it might look like #threexcharm and the book "Getting #Married" by my wife @MeredithGould. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:56 RevWeb |
9:57 | @MeredithGould Ha! Sure. :-) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:57 kmays |
9:57 | But don't underestimate the power of virtual relationships. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:57 singingcarolyn |
9:57 | T4 cont. #chsocm that said. Virtual church is better than NO CHURCH. Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:57 nealffischer |
9:57 | RT @singingcarolyn: But don't underestimate the power of virtual relationships. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:57 MeredithGould |
9:57 | Here comes the hour. We close our convo with this prayer from Compline: #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:57 rev_david |
9:57 | Or should I say (virtual) Relationships. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:57 singingcarolyn |
9:57 | Jokingly called my "invisible" friends. RT @singingcarolyn: But don't underestimate the power of virtual relationships. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:57 kmays |
9:58 | Keep watch, dear Lord, with those who work or watch or weep this night & give your angels charge over those who sleep. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:58 rev_david |
9:58 | The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on churchsocmed.blogspot.com within a few hours. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:58 rev_david |
9:58 | RT @rev_david: T2a) Non-metrics folks: Explain why metrics make the baby Jesus cry. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:58 ChristianWebRes |
9:58 | RT @rev_david: Keep watch, dear Lord, with those who work or watch or weep this night & give your angels charge over those who sleep #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:58 LuckyCharm333 |
9:59 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:59 MeredithGould |
9:59 | Thank you, friends, for a great chat tonight! Thoroughly enjoyed myself. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:59 rev_david |
9:59 | RT @rev_david: Keep watch, dear Lord, with those who work or watch or weep this night & give yr angels charge over those who sleep. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:59 MeredithGould |
9:59 | So, did anyone keep track of how many people participated tonight? *WINK* :-) #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:59 MegLassiat |
9:59 | RT Keep watch, dear Lord, with those who work or watch or weep this night & give your angels charge over those who sleep. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:59 RevWeb |
9:59 | @rev_david Fabulous chat!!! #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:59 MeredithGould |
9:59 | As always, you are welcome to keep talking among yourselves as long as you wish, but our chat is officially over. #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 9:59 rev_david |
10:00 | RT @MegLassiat: So, did anyone keep track of how many people participated tonight? *WINK* :-) //LOL! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 10:00 LuckyCharm333 |
10:00 | thanks everyone! good stuff, as always. #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 10:00 mattlipan |
10:00 | Tuesday August 14, 2012 10:00 m_vince |
10:00 | Tune in next week, same time, same place, for another great chat! #ChSocM Tuesday August 14, 2012 10:00 rev_david |
10:00 | Dog is barking, been patient long enough. Until next time, dear friends! #chsocm Tuesday August 14, 2012 10:00 LuckyCharm333 |
10:01 | #chsocm metrics: 482 tweets generated 1,903,001 impressions, reaching an audience of 116,630 :) (via hashtracking.com) Tuesday August 14, 2012 10:01 rev_david |
The topics:
T2a: Non-metrics folks: Explain why metrics make the baby Jesus cry.
T2b: Those of you who pay attention to metrics, why do metrics matter?
T3: What is a successful social media ministry? How can you tell?
T4: As we do "virtual" ministry, does the church need to gather in flesh to be the church?
This week's chat moderated by David Hansen (@Rev_David)
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